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jm20 posted:My losses are not accurate from 2008. don't put words in my mouth there is no top tier EVE is all poo poo tier
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You are also free to explain why you truely believe players like Zataaki, or the paragonWoW guys, or even Garmon are not skilled in comparison to yourself or your 40 year old man eve demographic you think is top tier.
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frozenpussy posted:lot of burden of proof up in this mug People typically have sources of fact based evidence to support their claims, but keep on keeping on
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jm20 posted:People typically have sources of fact based evidence to support their claims, but keep on keeping on I wasn't talking to you in that quote go away
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Unfunny Poster posted:Zkill isn't accurate with most of its stats though due to people not putting their APIs onto it. Hope this assists you in your argument. So it's only acceptably accurate if ~the good guys~ are on top?
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cravius posted:Whole lotta bad posting from both sides right now tbh This is my thinking currently. Lets all agree that Kills can be difficult based on fittings, or easy based on getting the drop on people and leave it there.
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VideoGames posted:Lets all agree that Kills can be difficult based on fittings, or easy based on getting the drop on people and leave it there. completely!
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frozenpussy posted:I wasn't talking to you in that quote go away Feel free to source your claims if you are so bold as to have something of worth for discussion
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I actually woke up one morning and poof - I was in the top performing low-sec PVP alliance. So if KarmaFleet exists, what's the selling point for Waffles?
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Pretty sure zkill now pulls all killmails from crest hourly so doesn't rely on people having registered their old APIs any more. https://zkillboard.com/character/878768739/ if your api isn't in zkill, your kills and losses don't show up unless you post them ie: none of my suicide gank losses are showing up
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the skill with eve is having a pulse and knowing how to read. its not even on the same level as an FPS or an RTS.
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Oh neat! I have a killboard too!  https://zkillboard.com/character/96354119/ I hope it remains empty for as long as possible.
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avatarinwin posted:https://zkillboard.com/character/878768739/ I have never put any API on zkill, and everything I've ever done on any character has shown up. vOv
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If PL was so  elite peeveepee wouldn't a requirement then be to put an api on zkill so that it was always up to date vs other alliances like GSF. That is, if zkill still required api keys to pull data, though I personally have had loss-mails from characters I know I have not added to zkill show up that were killed by npcs or when I shot myself with another non-registered on zkill character. The way it looks now, PL lost in kills by almost 1300, is claiming "we didn't care in May, now we care" and that "zkill is broken, our special boards are what count". Get out of here with your special-ness.
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jm20 posted:I dunno, I was always partial to some elitepvpers from another game Ahh Diivil, the guy we kicked for being a spy 2 weeks in because no one could be that active and good and be a true goon.
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Maybe you are just bad @ eve friend.
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hailthefish posted:So it's only acceptably accurate if ~the good guys~ are on top? If you want to pretend that's what I said then feel free. Baculus posted:I have never put any API on zkill, and everything I've ever done on any character has shown up. vOv That's because other people on the kill, or the victims, have their APIs on the site. Be it a corp API or a individual player API. Edit - You can find out whose API is in Zkill by the little green checkmark that says "API Verified." You have to go to the Corp & Alliance page separately. For example: Neither HVAC Repairman's API, GoonWaffe, nor GoonSwarm Federations API isn't on Zkill, but GSF's Kriegsmarinewerft's corp API is. So if HVAC was involved in a kill with a dude from Kriegsmarinewerft, then that's where the API for that kill would come from. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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This is how I solo PVP: -with all the alts, -in high sec, -using a perfect prober (not shown-- Rain6638), -once every four years. 
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jm20 posted:My losses are not accurate from 2008. zataaki sucked(sucks?) rear end dude dont hold him up as your example
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Goatman Sacks posted:Ahh Diivil, the guy we kicked for being a spy 2 weeks in because no one could be that active and good and be a true goon. Was it Vio? Vio was always a suspicious guy. Anyhow they are fantastic gamers and their skill carries over across games. I miss the old gang  frozenpussy posted:This is how I solo PVP: Solo pvp means one person so you're in the clear. pvping by giving away advantages is best left for games without real death FruitNYogurtParfait posted:zataaki sucked(sucks?) rear end dude dont hold him up as your example Says pvp master deadtear, he who jumps his titan into a system where no one could load grid. Zataaki has like 3k kills with a crusader dude
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Baculus posted:So if KarmaFleet exists, what's the selling point for Waffles? Flying something other than hurricanes and frigates?
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jm20 posted:Was it Vio? Vio was always a suspicious guy. lavens
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jm20 posted:My losses are not accurate from 2008. Should have said 'recent' losses Unfunny Poster posted:Cite where it says it does that. Was a conversation with a dev guy who did our srp coding so can't copy paste. Whether it's true or not doesn't make your assertion that zkill misses kills true. Show me a (recent) example. avatarinwin posted:https://zkillboard.com/character/878768739/ There, this is how you refute anecdotal claims UP Thanks, I'll tell my friend he's full of poo poo 
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Xolve posted:Flying something other than hurricanes and frigates? so feroxes then
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Should have said 'recent' losses Losses to Concord or any NPCs don't show on zkill I thought.
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Bilirubin posted:Losses to Concord or any NPCs don't show on zkill I thought. they very much do
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:they very much do Mine do from 2012
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Baculus posted:I have never put any API on zkill, and everything I've ever done on any character has shown up. vOv goonwaffe API is put into zkillboard, so goonwaffe's kills and losses automatically go into zkillboard thats why i had to leave before i went gently caress goons for a little bit, because anti-gankers were following me based on my kills and losses that automatically showed up on zkill. 1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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avatarinwin posted:goonwaffe API is put into zkillboard, so goonwaffe's kills and losses automatically go into zkillboard It was a bit frustrating for me while ganking because even my single ibis losses when pre-pulling concord would be on zkill within minutes.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Zkill isn't accurate with most of its stats though due to people not putting their APIs onto it. Hope this assists you in your argument. Bad dodge. Zkill sees enough general use amongst the nullsec/lowsec set that the odds of somebody having their API in it (Via corp/alliance/individual) for any given fight with more than 20 people in it is pretty loving good. Is it perfect? No. There will always be edge cases, but when throwing around unsubstiated "We're doing this better than you neener neener" posts into the void, retorting with a fairly accurate even though it misses the edge cases and saying "Nuh uh, neener neener" is perfectly acceptable. Nerd.
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There used to be another alliance that was all about their kb it was Against All Authorities whatever happened to them
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Orange Red Bull posted:so feroxes then Not quite- apparently they're all grown up now and flying similar doctrines to PL. Orange Red Bull posted:There used to be another alliance that was all about their kb it was Against All Authorities whatever happened to them They're still around- camping HED-GP like old times.
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frozenpussy posted:This is how I solo PVP: I like my way better. Grab a Taranis fly around and engage whatever you see, no matter what it is. There's no adrenaline rush like tackling a balghorn on a gate knowing full well you have no support anywhere nearby. Once you're back in station, you grab another one and repeat the process.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Was a conversation with a dev guy who did our srp coding so can't copy paste. Whether it's true or not doesn't make your assertion that zkill misses kills true. Show me a (recent) example. Squizz, the guy who makes Zkill, responded to a PM I shot him and made this PSA/thread a little bit ago to help clarify it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4m8jgm/zkillboard_does_not_automatically_get_all/ Rhymenoserous posted:Bad dodge. Zkill sees enough general use amongst the nullsec/lowsec set that the odds of somebody having their API in it (Via corp/alliance/individual) for any given fight with more than 20 people in it is pretty loving good. Is it perfect? No. There will always be edge cases, but when throwing around unsubstiated "We're doing this better than you neener neener" posts into the void, retorting with a fairly accurate even though it misses the edge cases and saying "Nuh uh, neener neener" is perfectly acceptable. It wasn't a dodge but OK. PL's api isn't on zkill and that's something Squizz himself has commented on over the past few years in that not all PL killmails/lossmails are on the site. I don't really get involved in the "zomg killboard stats  " idiocy. Then again I'm not a tryhard who focuses on that stuff when it comes to a video game like you guys. 
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Unfunny Poster posted:I don't really get involved in the "zomg killboard stats 
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Dalael posted:I like my way better. Grab a Taranis fly around and engage whatever you see, no matter what it is. Know what's better than EVE player versus player forum poster versus poster
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Unfunny Poster posted:I'm not a tryhard How many hundreds of hours worth of eve vids have you made
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I think anyone who cares about KB stats in TYOOL 2016 is not going to enjoy eve very much. I've noticed that many more people are flying expensive setups; whereas seeing faction/t2 cruisers wasn't that big about 6 years ago, now there are a lot of people roaming around in stuff like 100mn phantasms and XLASB vagas.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Squizz, the guy who makes Zkill, responded to a PM I shot him and made this PSA/thread a little bit ago to help clarify it. So you shot the zkill guy a pm about how his kb works but totally don't care about kb stats These things seem inconsistent to me
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