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It's a waste of time, just buy them researched on the cheap. Checkout the blueprints channel in-game. Use a calculator to determine if you can even profit with max skills, as it seems like a lot of the items are being manufactured with minerals mined for free
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Jun 2, 2016 06:30
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bluegoon posted:Researching blueprints looks interesting, is it a huge isk sink though? It's not a gigantic isk sink, but it is a waste of time in many cases, especially when you can procure fully researched BPOs for a relatively tiny fee off contracts. About two years ago, the BPO research system was redesigned, and a bunch of us industrialists ended up with redundant stacks of perfectly-researched BPOs that we had little use for. e: I'll copypaste my old saw from the last thread (with one tweak): ullerrm posted:I'm firmly of the opinion that everyone should do the following things at least once in their eve career: ullerrm fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 06:45
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jm20 posted:It's a waste of time, just buy them researched on the cheap. Checkout the blueprints channel in-game. Use a calculator to determine if you can even profit with max skills, as it seems like a lot of the items are being manufactured with minerals mined for free Yeah that's not a bad idea.
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Jun 2, 2016 06:59
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bluegoon posted:Yeah that's not a bad idea. I was eyeing the Cerberus but the price was a bit crazy, something 200m I think, so think actually building a few might be worth a shot, maybe mine the minerals myself or something.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:04
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My sock is full. My schedule was clear. I ratted for 16 hours today (took a 3 hour break in the middle to take care of a 6 year old). Made 700m in ticks, 10/10 sold for 90m, ~150m loot, and 3 loving faction spawns. One happened to be good and dropped ~190m implant. Pretty great day.  Now, need the solo sansha 10/10 fit!
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Jun 2, 2016 10:14
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FranktheBank posted:So, ratting fleet is highly successful. Looking at doing 8/10s and 10/10s solo. For now, I have 1 account to solo it with. (The other accounts aren't gonna have injectors for a while) I saw some Golem, Paladin, and Tengu fits that said 10/10 solo. I was curious on how active they are? 10/10s are really the only thing worth doing anymore due to the escalation rate. A/B/C-type loots are in shorter supply generally, but are also inferior to x-type and thus less expensive. It also depends what pirate faction you plan to do 10/10s against - though generally it's best to use a Tengu if you're not 100% in safe space - being able to evade gatecamps with nullification is very useful. That being said, I did a ton of mazes (guristas 10/10) in a vargur to grind my way into an aeon - it was a lot of fun, and burned through the site in 12 minutes. Sad side story, I tried to export that vargur during the fall of deklein, and the geniuses that Zephyrine employed used a non-NPC corp freighter with an active wardec - and I didn't ask for collateral because I was used to padded helmets.
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Jun 2, 2016 17:15
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I heard a lot of good things about the Tengu soloing Sansha 10/10s. Killing only what needs to be killed to go to the next room. What kind of fit would I be looking at?
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Jun 2, 2016 17:59
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FranktheBank posted:I heard a lot of good things about the Tengu soloing Sansha 10/10s. Killing only what needs to be killed to go to the next room. What kind of fit would I be looking at? I would tell you but I don't know. The only person who ever admitted to doing Tengu 10/10s taunted me with the ISK they earned and nothing else. suzy rc mudstone
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Jun 2, 2016 18:21
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I think I accidentally caught the wrong thread, so here my question again, if anyone would have some advice:Duzzy Funlop posted:Hey fitting-folks/miniluv-folks,
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Jun 2, 2016 21:31
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I think I accidentally caught the wrong thread, so here my question again, if anyone would have some advice: It'll work as long as you're on the ball. But, if they can cargoscan you even once, they'll smartbomb you. I'd use a blockade runner. ullerrm fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 21:34
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I think I accidentally caught the wrong thread, so here my question again, if anyone would have some advice: That thing warps in 1.9 seconds, even if they were doing a hellcamp and managed to lock you with a rsebo'd loki, cargo scan takes longer than a second iirc. Is this even in the realm of possibility? I mean, who exactly goes around trying to gank fast traveling intys in highsec.
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Jun 2, 2016 22:01
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ullerrm posted:If they can cargoscan you even once, they'll smartbomb you. Use a blockade runner. I'm a little confused...if a smartbomb does 300 damage and a battleship can fit 8, wouldn't the two MSEs and resists require a ganker to have like 3+ battleships at upwards of 700-800 million in value to pop an interceptor at just the right time and spot on a gate? I know you're never really safe anywhere, but I was planning on ferrying maybe two or three implants and/or BPCs at a time, and maybe twice per week, so I'd be surprised if people would try to put in that amount of dedication and resources to catch a 9,300 EHP interceptor with 1.9s align time that flies across high-sec once or twice per week?
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Jun 2, 2016 22:10
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ullerrm posted:It'll work as long as you're on the ball. But, if they can cargoscan you even once, they'll smartbomb you. I'd use a blockade runner. Blockade runner roulette isn't unheard of. Would probably be harder to set up a coordinated smartbomb camp ahead of an interceptor than to get lucky on an instalock or decloak on a BR. Of course the real correct answer is a collateralized courier contract. Red Frog/Blue Frog are way cheaper than losing your expensive poo poo because you wanted to save a few isk.
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Jun 2, 2016 22:11
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Morris posted:Blockade runner roulette isn't unheard of. Would probably be harder to set up a coordinated smartbomb camp ahead of an interceptor than to get lucky on an instalock or decloak on a BR. I've looked up Red Frog/Blue Frog and the prices are 45 million and 100 million for maybe 20 jumps...that's considered cheap these days? Instead of moving two to three BPCs in a way that would require a ganker to invest time, coordination and resources considerably more valuable than your cargo to kill you?
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Jun 2, 2016 22:18
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I read that as BPOs rather than BPCs. Regardless the tanked interceptor is probably a better bet than a BR that might get shot just to see what's inside.
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Jun 2, 2016 22:27
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Just use the Luxury Yacht. Hit warp then cloak and off you go. Mine is fit with all istabs plus a DC, covert cloak and MWD. My rigs are Hyperspatials, but you can use extenders if you're really worried about it. I warp to an insta undock, cloaking on the way before I land, then I warp to gate. After I jump, if there are any ships on gate with me, I click warp->cloak and off I go again. With my hyperspatials, I'm warping at 10.4AU/s, so it's going to be difficult for someone to keep up with me, even if they do manage a miracle cargo scan. With the DC, I'm sitting at 22,140 EHP (with my alts skills). It's only got 30m3 of space, but that's plenty for BPCs/BPOs/implants. 
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Jun 2, 2016 23:23
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I think I accidentally caught the wrong thread, so here my question again, if anyone would have some advice:
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Jun 2, 2016 23:39
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If you want to bling out your Yacht, you can actually make it warp in under 2 seconds as well.  Midslot is kind of a wildcard, some people fit MWDs, some people fit Burst Jammers, or a Large Shield Extender - really it doesn't matter so long as you remember that using a Burst Jammer in highsec might not be a great idea.
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Jun 2, 2016 23:41
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like, you could count on one hand the number of interceptors that get smartbombed in highsec, and then you're putting tank on yours unlike theirs. the number of legitimately smartbombed tanked interceptors in highsec is probably zero. there is absolutely nothing wrong with using an interceptor over another ship, as long as you don't AFK, in which case a brick tanked covertops t3 is better, as long as you don't go over a billion isk.
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Jun 2, 2016 23:49
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ullerrm posted:It'll work as long as you're on the ball. But, if they can cargoscan you even once, they'll smartbomb you. I'd use a blockade runner. I wouldn't even use a BR. For hauling BPC's, use a cloaky frig instead. You want a frig that can warp while cloaked.
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Jun 3, 2016 02:31
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If you're going from jita to elsewhere, use a JF to bounce it off of the Jita undock to some lowsec border station and then move it with a blockade runner once you're off the main pipes. If you're going from elsewhere to Jita, use the yacht with a large shield extender and make sure that you have an instadock bookmark.
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Jun 3, 2016 02:36
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If you're moving ~100m3 or less, use a yacht or travelceptor. Value of cargo doesn't really matter. Cloaky+align T3s/BRs are fine as well, just don't afk and warp to instant dock BMs. If you're moving ~60,000m3 or less, use a DST with max tank and an MJD. You're shooting for 120k EHP or more at least, omni. (cloak and MWD is highly recommended as well)
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Jun 3, 2016 03:26
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Can someone  me a cloaky Tengu fit?I'm hunting in space where rats shoot EM/Thermal
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Jun 3, 2016 16:59
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Hunting ratters? I don't think I've seen a tengu for cloaky hunting before. What does it bring to the table that something like a proteus would not?
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Jun 3, 2016 17:37
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Deofuta posted:Hunting ratters? I don't think I've seen a tengu for cloaky hunting before. What does it bring to the table that something like a proteus would not? I've been dunked on by tengu's in dek before. Why is a proteus better?
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Jun 3, 2016 18:33
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Oodles posted:I've been dunked on by tengu's in dek before. Mostly, damage output. Cloaky Tengus generally don't have great DPS; with a slightly pimped max-DPS setup (5x HAMs and 3x faction BCSes) you're doing ~400dps with faction ammo, ~480dps with Rage. For comparison, a cheap T2-fit cloaky blaster Prote does ~460dps with CNAM, ~520 with Void, with a cheap T2 fit. Cloaky rail Protes with faction MFSes do ~475dps with CNAM. Also, the Prote can scram at long range if you take that subsystem.
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Jun 3, 2016 19:02
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ullerrm posted:Mostly, damage output. Cloaky Tengus generally don't have great DPS; with a slightly pimped max-DPS setup (5x HAMs and 3x faction BCSes) you're doing ~400dps with faction ammo, ~480dps with Rage. For comparison, a cheap T2-fit cloaky blaster Prote does ~460dps with CNAM, ~520 with Void, with a cheap T2 fit. Cloaky rail Protes with faction MFSes do ~475dps with CNAM. 
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Jun 4, 2016 07:44
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Fly a Proteus, if you have the skills for it. You get naturally high EM/Thermal resist and boatloads of extra damage, on top of the safety of a long-range scram.
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Jun 4, 2016 08:41
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A tengu is strictly better than a Proteus for hunting in Serpentis and Guristas space because a cloaky proteus can only do kinetic and thermal damage, which is exactly what the ratters will be fit to tank. I had some reasonably good luck ganking fancy ratting ships with a cloaky nullified HAM tengu a few years ago. These days, however, the stratios just does it better; the only real reason to use a Tengu is if you're uncomfortable dealing with bubbles or don't have any SP invested in drones at all for some reason.
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Jun 4, 2016 08:45
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LemonDrizzle posted:A tengu is strictly better than a Proteus for hunting in Serpentis and Guristas space because a cloaky proteus can only do kinetic and thermal damage, which is exactly what the ratters will be fit to tank. I had some reasonably good luck ganking fancy ratting ships with a cloaky nullified HAM tengu a few years ago. These days, however, the stratios just does it better; the only real reason to use a Tengu is if you're uncomfortable dealing with bubbles or don't have any SP invested in drones at all for some reason. Yep, this is true. That said, he said he was "hunting in space where rats shoot EM/Thermal" -- in which case, being K/T (or the pure K of a gank Tengu) isn't that bad. Ironically, in this case, he'd prefer CNAM over Void, because CNAM has more K than T, whereas Void is equal amounts of both.
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Jun 4, 2016 20:03
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Does it make sense to join goon waffe as a newbie with no money? In terms of having fun and learning the game and have stuff to do. Alternatively how does one join Videogames' chill mining guild?
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Jun 5, 2016 14:25
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Sekenr posted:Does it make sense to join goon waffe as a newbie with no money? In terms of having fun and learning the game and have stuff to do. Alternatively how does one join Videogames' chill mining guild? join that or groon
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Jun 5, 2016 14:33
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Sekenr posted:Does it make sense to join goon waffe as a newbie with no money? In terms of having fun and learning the game and have stuff to do. Alternatively how does one join Videogames' chill mining guild? We love new players. The most lucrative decision you can make is to join goonwaffe and just innocently ask your questions.
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Jun 5, 2016 15:25
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"What kind of ammo do I put in my warp scrambler?" once got a newbie about a billion or so, back in 2011
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Jun 5, 2016 16:08
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Sekenr posted:Does it make sense to join goon waffe as a newbie with no money? In terms of having fun and learning the game and have stuff to do. Alternatively how does one join Videogames' chill mining guild? To join RVCMF, open the Corporations menu on your NeoCom (click the icon above your portrait > Social > Corporations), search for Rock Venture, right-click the search result for Rock Venture Chill Mining Friends corp. > Show Info, click the Apply to Join button. VG doesn't have a recruitment thread or any out-of-game forums or anything.
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Jun 5, 2016 16:10
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Are there any good resources online that I can do some reading to learn basic principles and ideas for learning to get better at pvp? I primarily want to understand how to start thinking about fitting and how to recognize if I have the right ship/fit for a particular engagement in pvp. I hope this question makes sense. I don't have a lot of successful experience with pvp.
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Jun 5, 2016 21:13
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Nunes posted:Are there any good resources online that I can do some reading to learn basic principles and ideas for learning to get better at pvp? I primarily want to understand how to start thinking about fitting and how to recognize if I have the right ship/fit for a particular engagement in pvp. I hope this question makes sense. I don't have a lot of successful experience with pvp. I didn't begin to understand modules until a year in, and just filled mids with hardeners and used cruise missiles on PVE battleships because lol 200km range (farther is good, right?) You can pvp in whatever you want, but if you want to win you have to recognize which fights to take. If I recognize a ship by name it's because I've been killed by it several times.
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Jun 5, 2016 21:26
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there was a great blog by... azual skoll? it touched on some great points and was good food for thought. I can't name any single resource, but I will recommend blogs and articles about game mechanics on eve news sites. ullerm do you have a blog? would you consider doing one, it would be worth reading a stream of consciousness about game mechanics topics by you.
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Yeah any reading you can throw my way would be awesome as I usually learn well that way. I did see some stuff from Azual Skoll but it was from around 2011-2012. Would it still be accurate? Yeah I really need to hurry up and join some sort of group and not try to do it alone, but I feel like I want to understand the fundamentals and theory rather than show up somewhere and just do what people tell me without understanding why it is being done that way.
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