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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Remember when everyone flipped their poo poo when a Trump supporter punched a guy in the back of the head? He didn't have poo poo on these guys: Because people here are totally cheerleading this. 
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Picking Perez seems risky to me and Hillary is easily one of the most risk-averse calculators out there. I just don't see it :\
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Oh yeah I remember the pages and pages of cheerleading of violence against Trump supporters. Only violent rhetoric here is calling for lining up predatory bankers and we're only half serious. Some 3/4.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Oh yeah I remember the pages and pages of cheerleading of violence against Trump supporters. 100% of the time.
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Jun 3, 2016 05:22
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I like Tom Perez, but its kind of a sleeper pick that doesn't get a lot of people excited name wise. I didn't know a drat thing about him until just now, but I like what I hear.
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Jun 3, 2016 05:23
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yes I'm sure protests will catch the public interest this time, it's different from all the others, and will certainly crack the veil of total apathy toward violence this nation embraces to its core. mass shootings don't even make the news anymore, but some guy getting punched will This crops up every time Trump has a bad day I swear. Anyway the comparison you want to make is with the girl who got jumped by a van full of people shouting Trump or the homeless guy beaten half to death by people shouting Trump or that guy doing donuts in the middle of a crowd of protesters
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Bunleigh posted:Does Paul Ryan have any actual political skills at all? He comes off as basically a high school libertarian who never outgrew his childish ideas on how the world works. He managed to maneuver himself into the exact same lovely spot Boehner spent 5 miserable years in, without securing any kind of leverage for himself at all. Now he seems to have done the same with Trump. He held out for a random amount of time and then endorsed the guy with seemingly nothing to show for it. Hell of a player, that Paul Ryan. I'm starting to get the idea that whenever Republicans herald an up and coming politician it's like saying a kid is the best player in region where it turns out the region sucks and he's been dunking on four foot losers.
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Chokes McGee posted:Also, if a narcissist starts a cult as a scam, they almost invariably end up believing the lies they're peddling after it's successful. While we're playing armchair psychologist, or armchair historian? Isn't Trump's power structure similar to Hitler and other big dicts? A bunch of tiny satellite groups all fighting each other and with infighting that go through a central figure?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Oh yeah I remember the pages and pages of cheerleading of violence against Trump supporters. the only thing that I want to break is my chains
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Who would be a good pick for Sander's VP?
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boom boom boom posted:Who would be a good pick for Sander's VP? Tinkerbell
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Because people here are totally cheerleading this. And no one here is denouncing it. Or even acknowledging it as even negative, and demonstrated below: DemeaninDemon posted:Oh yeah I remember the pages and pages of cheerleading of violence against Trump supporters. No acknowledgement, no repudiation. Epic High Five posted:yes I'm sure protests will catch the public interest this time, it's different from all the others, and will certainly crack the veil of total apathy toward violence this nation embraces to its core. mass shootings don't even make the news anymore, but some guy getting punched will The protester violence isn't even acknowledged here, and immediately dimissed by the 'both sides do it' perspective. This isn't cropping up every time Trump has a bad day, it's occurring when he has a rally.
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Jun 3, 2016 06:05
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duz posted:Just wear a skirt instead, you'll look better in every way. Yeah really. I am getting pretty jack these past few months. I will just put on enough muscle that no one will gently caress with me. And everyone can see my amazing calves. Stultus Maximus posted:Have you ever looked into sarongs? Hmmmm... Not bad.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:And no one here is denouncing it. Or even acknowledging it as even negative, and demonstrated below: If you aren't getting a lot of comments it's probably because you make the same poo poo-and-run post every time. It's always a link from some crap source accompanied by a "heh liberals." When it fails to get any play you find another garbage news article and do it again. It's boring. Just shut up.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Have you ever looked into sarongs? I am unabashedly pro-sarong, although personally I'm more about kurtas (aka "have you considered... making your loose shirt go all the way down?"). Extremely lazy, surprisingly snazzy, and well-suited to tropical and semitropical hellscapes.
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I think its safe to say that the reason there isn't some big denouncement of violent protests tonight is because its clearly a handful of idiots throwing a couple of punches and committing small acts of vandalism. Bad, criminal behavior but safely within the confines of "in a big enough group some people will be assholes". There weren't exactly riots. And the reason it doesn't have the same impact as a Trump supporter slugging someone is because those incidents are usually accompanied with audio of Trump saying something like "I'll pay the legal bills" or "in the good old days he wouldn't walk out" while these sort of incidents usually come with Trump's opponents condemning violence.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:And no one here is denouncing it. Or even acknowledging it as even negative, and demonstrated below: No one knew about it until you brought it up and everyone has been saying "yeah that's lovely" so what more do you want exactly?
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Litany Unheard posted:If you aren't getting a lot of comments it's probably because you make the same poo poo-and-run post every time. It's always a link from some crap source accompanied by a "heh liberals." When it fails to get any play you find another garbage news article and do it again. It's a link with multiple videos of protesters surrounding people, pelting them with eggs, and assaulting them, witnessed by multiple sources. Tell me exactly how different my approach to the usual USPol conversation (post embarrassing republican tweet/link). If the entire political spectrum isn't fair sport in the USPol thread, then mods should change the thread title to specify this.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:It's a link with multiple videos of protesters surrounding people, pelting them with eggs, and assaulting them, witnessed by multiple sources. It's DnD I'm not sure how you missed the legions of commies and pacifists.
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Boon posted:Ah yes, the most casual of business casual attire. The short pants, or just shorts for short. Yeah, it should be OK and it's kind of bullshit that it's not 
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He's implying we're all partisan hypocrites because we aren't losing our minds over a Trump supporter getting egged but we did when Trump was openly encouraging political violence at his rallies a few months ago.
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The Iron Rose posted:No one knew about it until you brought it up and everyone has been saying "yeah that's lovely" so what more do you want exactly? No one has said it's been lovely. Epic High Five posted:probably wants us to see the error of our ways and convert to the candidate of peace and pacifism, Donald J Trump What would be great to see in this thread is being able to mock everyone on the political spectrum.
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Fine. Violence in all forms (except against predatory capitalism) is wrong and you should wag your finger at it and give a stern talking to the violent individual. I'm so terribly sorry for not being on a high horse in the uspol thread. At least I'm not cheering it on and masturbating into my ammo box like Trump supporters do. Now politely go piss off.
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it makes me real sick to see trump supporters and Steven crowder get punched at rallies. makes me want to vomit.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:He's implying we're all partisan hypocrites because we aren't losing our minds over a Trump supporter getting egged but we did when Trump was openly encouraging political violence at his rallies a few months ago. What's crazy is, protesters didn't even need anyone to to encourage political violence, they did it on their own! But I'm getting the sense that that makes it better.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:It's a link with multiple videos of protesters surrounding people, pelting them with eggs, and assaulting them, witnessed by multiple sources. Candidates saying embarrassingly ignorant/sexist/xenophobic/fascist/misogynist/etc things or contradicting themselves and lying about it are different from protesters starting poo poo because the former is/are unexpected and the latter really isn't. I hope this aids in your understanding of the neurotypical mind. Goonspeed.
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smell this posted:it makes me real sick to see trump supporters and Steven crowder get punched at rallies. makes me want to vomit. If you sucker punch someone you deserve to be beaten purple.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:No one has said it's been lovely. You can do whatever you please but you also need to defend your positions. I've explained why I'm not OUTRAGED and I think this will come to nothing, because not much happened and it never has. It's lovely but it's also everybody doing it and nobody actually cares, including yourself by how you're putting this out there, so  What I absolutely do not feel the need to do is defend the honor of a white supremacist holding a rally in San Jose after excoriating a federal judge for having the audacity to have two legal Mexican immigrant parents, who not too long ago openly said he'd love to see more violence at his rallies, and WHOOPS looks like there's some people getting worked up.
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Epic High Five posted:You can do whatever you please but you also need to defend your positions. I've explained why I'm not OUTRAGED and I think this will come to nothing, because not much happened and it never has. It's lovely but it's also everybody doing it and nobody actually cares, including yourself by how you're putting this out there, so I totally respect this. Not asking you to defend Trump though, that was never a aspect to this at all. The poo poo with the judge is hilariously terrible.
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You know, I think the funniest thing about the judge situation is that I'm certain he STILL doesn't understand how deeply and fundamentally offensive it is to even a lot of party line conservatives. He thinks it's just say the magic word and everybody is on your side situation, but it's literally a direct assault on the validity of the American dream if a non-white achieves it with no dog whistles or anything Paul Ryan approves!
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Rhesus Pieces posted:He's implying we're all partisan hypocrites because we aren't losing our minds over a Trump supporter getting egged but we did when Trump was openly encouraging political violence at his rallies a few months ago. Partisanship: drawing a distinction between just acts and unjust acts.
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Epic High Five posted:You know, I think the funniest thing about the judge situation is that I'm certain he STILL doesn't understand how deeply and fundamentally offensive it is to even a lot of party line conservatives. I 100% in agreement with you -- I don't know if it's because he's surrounded by yes men or he's amassed a large white support base, but I don't think he can even see the racism behind it anymore. He gets cheers and sees his ratings go up when he shouts about the !mexicans!, it can't be bad because so many people react positively to it. I cannot wait until we see how the general election turnout out is among minority voters, or the epic shitstorm that follows on cable news about the historic low minitory turnout he received.
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Necc0 posted:Picking Perez seems risky to me and Hillary is easily one of the most risk-averse calculators out there. I just don't see it :\ What are his risks?
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FAUXTON posted:What are his risks? There's a risk that he might solidify the base but be too left-wing for middle America. There's a risk that a woman and a Latino on the ticket might alienate more voters than it brings in. There's a risk that big money donors will decamp for the GOP or simply sit this one out because they think that he's a sign that a Clinton Administration will be too hostile to them. I'm sure that I can think of other risks if I thought about it for a little while. I like the guy and from what little I know about him he seems like a decent fit. But let's not pretend that we represent mainstream political thought or that we represent anything more than a small slice or the electorate. There are always other considerations.
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Zeroisanumber posted:There's a risk that he might solidify the base but be too left-wing for middle America. There's a risk that a woman and a Latino on the ticket might alienate more voters than it brings in. There's a risk that big money donors will decamp for the GOP or simply sit this one out because they think that he's a sign that a Clinton Administration will be too hostile to them. I'm sure that I can think of other risks if I thought about it for a little while. Okay now stop comparing a Hillary-Perez ticket to something like a Romney-Ryan ticket and start facing the reality of who the GOP nominee is.
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Tom Perez would also be awesome because we could get 24 years of progressive candidates for President. He could totally run in 2024 after our 8 years of Hillary. How amazing would that be! I don't think he'd polarize voters more than Trump already has. I still want Trumps VP nominee to be Gingrich though. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jun 3, 2016 |
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I think the biggest issue with Perez is that he's been appointed to everything while the only office he ran for he was disqualified on a technicality during the primary.
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