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hooman posted:Can we swap both for the sweet release of death? I'll take this option.
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# ? Jun 4, 2016 13:57 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 06:42 |
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Can anyone post this Guy Rundle article? Normally I don't bother but it's being talked about on Facebook and curiosity is getting the better of me. https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/06/03/guy-rundle-how-radical-gender-theory-hijacked-marxism/
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# ? Jun 4, 2016 13:57 |
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Just warning you, gender is one topic Grundle is consistently terrible at writing about. At least I always got that impression back in the megathread days when all his articles were copy/pasted here.
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# ? Jun 4, 2016 14:05 |
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I read LibertyCat posts so I don't see how Grundle can be any worse.
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# ? Jun 4, 2016 14:49 |
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Starshark posted:I read LibertyCat posts so I don't see how Grundle can be any worse. At least LibertyCat stops at about three sentences, and you can understand them.
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# ? Jun 4, 2016 15:27 |
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Malcolm Turnbull is facing a 10 per cent swing against him in his Sydney seat of Wentworth, according to polling that shows more than half his local electors think less of him since he became Prime Minister. The ReachTel poll conducted across the blue-ribbon Liberal electorate last week suggests Mr Turnbull's first preference vote will be slashed from 63 per cent to 53 per cent. His lead in the two-party preferred stakes will be similarly reduced from the 2013 result of 68-32 to 58-42. While he will still be comfortably re-elected with such a result, it will be the first swing against him since he first won the seat in 2004. He increased his margin at the 2007, 2010 and 2013 elections. The polling underscores just how much his popularity has waned since he took over the nation's top job last year.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 01:23 |
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*stuffs several plums in mouth* I love my local member, malclom turnbull
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 01:33 |
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So the PaTH website turns out to be a LNP website that pretends to be a website for PaTH but really just sends your details to campaign HQ so they can ask you for donations. Privacy campaigners have accused the Liberal Party of an "appalling" sleight of hand for using what looks deceptively like an official government website to harvest people's personal information. The Australian Privacy Foundation's David Vaile says the website, which spruiks the government's $840 million PaTH to Jobs internship program, appears to be deliberately misleading. It asks employers and jobseekers to register their interest in the program by submitting their personal details. But it's only in the well-hidden fine print that it makes it clear it is a party website rather than a government one. The Coalition scheme is designed to encourage under-25s into jobs by giving them a $200-a-fortnight top-up over and above the dole to work 25 hours a week. It is a central plank of the government's jobs and growth agenda but it has drawn heavy fire from the unions, which have described it as a $4-an-hour "worker exploitation scheme". Mr Vaile says the website may be a political trawling exercise, a "mean and tricky ruse" to get information for political purposes. "They have pushed the concept of informed consent to the limit by not revealing anywhere that it is not actually the Turnbull government a reader is dealing with but a party organisation," he said. "It is an appalling approach to abusing the trust of gullible internet users and getting their personal information by sleight of hand. It gives little confidence that they can be trusted to look after personal information, security, privacy and confidentiality concerns." Mr Vaile says the information collected can be stolen by a "motivated intruder", putting people at risk of identity theft. The ACTU says the website is another strike against the program. "Not only does the government want to exploit young workers, now we're seeing an attack on their privacy as well, with their details being funnelled into a Liberal Party campaign database," ACTU secretary Dave Oliver said. "This Liberal Party website is ill-thought through, cobbled together and of dubious legitimacy, just like the PaTH scheme itself." The Coalition has refused to answer questions about the website, simply referring Fairfax Media to the website's privacy policy, which reads: "Information is being collected by the Liberal Party because it is caretaker and no government agency can do so." Once the election caretaker period is over, the party will provide the information to the Department of Employment, the policy says. "The information collected will not be used for any other purpose," it says. But Mr Vaile, who is also executive director of the Cyberspace Law and Policy Centre at the University of NSW, says this privacy policy is "deeply deficient". "I've never seen anything like that. It makes the very unconvincing claim that somehow the caretaker conventions both require and permit them to collect this information."
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 01:53 |
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Anidav posted:So the PaTH website turns out to be a LNP website that pretends to be a website for PaTH but really just sends your details to campaign HQ so they can ask you for donations. "How low can you go? Sing-it-with-me-now! How low can you go?"
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 02:36 |
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starkebn posted:"How low can you go? Sing-it-with-me-now! How low can you go?" All the way to where it's hot and burney?
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 02:51 |
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Australia.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 03:07 |
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GorgeOnMySyphilis posted:Australia. not even once
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 04:17 |
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Starshark posted:Can anyone post this Guy Rundle article? Normally I don't bother but it's being talked about on Facebook and curiosity is getting the better of me. quote:Rundle: how radical gender theory hijacked Marxism -- and why we need to get it back
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 07:32 |
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Today I met a greens member representing them at a rally who was an rear end in a top hat that gave me poo poo for being there helping an aycc friend instead of helping the greens. The actual candidate for the greens was cool though.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 07:32 |
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When is Newspoll due
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:12 |
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Met a charming chap at work today wearing a t shirt with a wolfsangel on it, and with what I now know to be a Goebells quote. In public.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:36 |
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Anidav posted:When is Newspoll due Monday's Oz. Sometimes it gets out tonight.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:38 |
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Yeesh, Grundle really could have saved himself some time and just repeated "I can't be a bigot, EVERYONE in Australia secretly shares my regressive views on gender, even those who publicly don't!" into a mirror until it felt true again.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:50 |
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Most teenagers are going to grow up normal. I mean... heterosexual... poo poo... slipped again...
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:55 |
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Someone remind me, do we post Grundle as a good columnist, or a poo poo one to bitch about? I mean I know which one I think he is, but I need to make sure we're all on the same page.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 09:09 |
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Zenithe posted:Goebells
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 09:10 |
Cleretic posted:Someone remind me, do we post Grundle as a good columnist, or a poo poo one to bitch about? He is usually ok, but as was said before, anything related to gender, just put it in the bin.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 09:16 |
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A friend of mine yesterday was busy telling me the greens are the main driver behind pubs playing live music bring shut down in the suburbs because they're against noise pollution. Not just being told to stop playing music but also to be shut down.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:02 |
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What a strange article by Rundle. A mess and confusion of ideas where I'm left unsure as to the purpose of the article. Even by his own argument, he makes a good case as to why they should teach 'gender fluidity' to teens (when they are most likely to experiment, and to normalise it as a mean to combat bullying). On one hand he accepts that people diverge from the norm, yet we shouldn't explain these divergences too broadly because... Many of the arguments are used to argue against the idea of transgenderism and the 'overemphasis' of non-hetero sexuality in sex education (drat gays getting pushy with their homosexuality ). It all seems a bit odd to me.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:03 |
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fliptophead posted:A friend of mine yesterday was busy telling me the greens are the main driver behind pubs playing live music bring shut down in the suburbs because they're against noise pollution. Global loudening is a serious issue.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:11 |
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Does anyone have the low down on what's going on with the Victorian CFA volunteers, the union, their EBA and the state government. Popped up on my radar when I saw Turnbull was backing the volunteers.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:12 |
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Tokamak posted:Global loudening is a serious issue. He's a labor member so apparently that's one of the lines they're pushing now.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:31 |
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fliptophead posted:He's a labor member so apparently that's one of the lines they're pushing now. I have a box full of coasters somewhere that would like a word with your friend. Pretty vocal supporters of live music, our Greens.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:04 |
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Beetphyxious posted:Does anyone have the low down on what's going on with the Victorian CFA volunteers, the union, their EBA and the state government. Popped up on my radar when I saw Turnbull was backing the volunteers. There's a union for paid firefighters, the United Firefighters Union, and one for volunteers, the Volunteer Fire Brigades Victoria. The UFU want input on decisions within the CFA for decisions that affect their members. The VFBV opposes this and fears it would result in UFA taking over the CFA and end volunteerism. The Fair Work Commission recently recommended that the Government accept the UFU's proposals and doesn't believe it will affect volunteers. Apparently the Herald Sun has been fanning the flames by supporting one side.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:06 |
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Sure, the party that throws raves as donation events is the one that wants to ban loud music.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:15 |
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Frogmanv2 posted:He is usually ok, but as was said before, anything related to gender, just put it in the bin. I'm not sure he's all that good on Marx either, but I'm no expert. He's right in one thing: the dominant economic themes in current politics are quite besides the point, a discussion between the haves about "how much have" they should get instead of addressing the have-nots who only matter at election time and can be dispensed with otherwise. Globalism is such that governments seem powerless, and unless globalism enforces a better duty of care, there won't be any. Tokamak posted:What a strange article by Rundle. A mess and confusion of ideas where I'm left unsure as to the purpose of the article. That's a normal response to Grundle. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Jun 5, 2016 |
# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:19 |
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There was also that time a few mates and I put on a 2-stager to raise money for Ludlam's recount campaign. He showed up, did a speech, had the crowd chanting "gently caress Tony Abbott" for a few minutes and then skanked out to a local ska band.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:21 |
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quote:one would want people to see Marxism as a doctrine of liberation of the things most oppressing them, not the advancement of Idealist notions of gender and sexuality that they have never subscribed to.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:22 |
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Very Pythonesque, that line. That's why it seems he has a rather undergrad take on Marxism. If you're taking "doctrine of liberation" seriously you've already lost the plot.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:28 |
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Don Dongington posted:I have a box full of coasters somewhere that would like a word with your friend. I chose not to bother with arguing the point...but this is obviously something that's doing the rounds. Meanwhile Baird had done a great job killing Kings Cross so his mates can get some sweet resi developments up and running.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 12:28 |
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fliptophead posted:I chose not to bother with arguing the point...but this is obviously something that's doing the rounds. Yeah the juxtaposition of that narrative and fact is typically bizarre political behaviour from the ALP. Positioning yourself as "not as lefty as THEM" doesn't really serve your own cause that well, nor as it is plain, explain how those in power actually change things if they are not Green. It's a bit of a meltdown.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 13:02 |
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fliptophead posted:
Oh yeah that. To be honest the last time Labor were in govt in WA I don't recall things being any better with regard to venue shutdowns. Neither of the old parties give a hardboiled poo poo about entertainment that doesn't translate directly to tourism lobby donations. Edit: or gambling.
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 13:46 |
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Newspoll 50-50
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 15:31 |
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Death is certain
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# ? Jun 5, 2016 15:57 |
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Anidav posted:Newspoll 50-50 Australia:
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# ? Jun 6, 2016 01:11 |