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Been away from Eve for the past 8 months, can someone please give me a non-poo poo summary of the dread/carrier changes? e- or even a half decent link, ccp's site is messy. MorsAnima fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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MorsAnima posted:Been away from Eve for the past 8 months, can someone please give me a non-poo poo summary of the dread/carrier changes? All carrier-class and larger ships have had their EHP reduced, but capital armor plates and shield extenders have been added. Supers use the same mods but get a massive bonus to their effectiveness. New XL guns/launchers have been added, called High-Angle Weapons. These give dreads and titans the ability to apply damage reasonably well to subcaps, in exchange for doing much less damage than the non-HAW. They're currently tracking too well, because when  implemented them they also changed the tracking formula, and didn't plan for how the two changes would interact. Also tech 2 XL guns are a thing now.Carriers can't use drones any more, and fighter controls have been changed. I'd recommend testing it on singularity before doing anything with it, it's very different. Fighters also have really good application against subcaps, and carriers/supercarriers can have a high slot module that gives them a +900% scanres bonus, called a Networked Sensor Array. Instalocking carriers are now a thing, and they can lock from several thousand kilometers away. Supers aren't ewar immune anymore, but they get massive bonuses to warp core strength. All carriers that were fitted with Triage modules when the citadel patch went live got converted to Force Auxilary ships, which are basically triage carriers without the ability to refit into offensive carriers. Those are the only feasible capital remote rep ships now, and they only get decent remote reps while in triage. Pirate capitals and supers are Coming Soon. e; Oh yeah, also they put AoE Doomsdays back in. No word on whether they're planning on re-adding the ability to fire them through a cyno. Eminai fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Jun 4, 2016 14:41
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all dreads have a 10,000 m3 fleet hangar and 1,000,000 m3 ship maintenance array. For me it eliminates any need for a carrier when I can haul my gang's stuff including fit battleships and move in one trip.
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Jun 4, 2016 14:47
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Eminai posted:All carrier-class and larger ships have had their EHP reduced, but capital armor plates and shield extenders have been added. Supers use the same mods but get a massive bonus to their effectiveness. How's carrier ratting/wormholes with the "no drones" thing? Fighters capable of it?
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Jun 4, 2016 15:32
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MorsAnima posted:How's carrier ratting/wormholes with the "no drones" thing? Fighters capable of it? What, did HK not take you back? People seem to be making a decent go of it.
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Jun 4, 2016 16:20
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KaoliniteMilkshake posted:What, did HK not take you back? Not even resubbed yet, just getting that "I kinda maybe want to return to Eve"... Changed jobs a while ago and got a fair bit more free time.
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Jun 4, 2016 17:46
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MorsAnima posted:How's carrier ratting/wormholes with the "no drones" thing? Fighters capable of it? Afk ratting is dead, everything else is benefitting from carriers doing way more damage than they used to. WH escalations have changed, but I don't know all the specifics.
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Jun 4, 2016 18:58
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Oodles posted:You've all been here before, but is there any hope for null with 75% of the CSM being heavily inspired by Nullsec? Or just CCP doesn't really listen to CSM for anything. They're not armchair game balancers, or community contributors; they're coalmine canaries. CCP lets loose a little squeaker fart in the room, and sees if the CSM reacts by dropping dead. If the canary dies, they might reevaluate things. Otherwise, they go "not stinky enough to kill -- good enough," and then promptly fire off the full Bronx Cheer in public the next day. MorsAnima posted:How's carrier ratting/wormholes with the "no drones" thing? Fighters capable of it? Wormholes are largely unchanged. They changed some of the escalation mechanics so that you can't roll an escalation multiple days in a row, which has reduced some of the absurd broken profitability that a dedicated C5/C6 team could do... but they're still pretty profitable. Carrier ratting isn't dead, but it's severely curtailed. Fighters are stupidly good; however, CCP also added capital rats to the game, and they will gently caress your poo poo up if you're AFK. (Hell, even if you're at the keyboard, you have a good chance to get your poo poo hosed up if you're not prepared to get the gently caress out when the dreads arrive.) e: Xolve posted:Most of the more controversial changes have been done with little to no notice to the CSM at all. In the end, The last part of that is true, but the "CSM gets little/no notice" was a phenomenon somewhat unique to CSM10 -- they couldn't say anything to the CSM without Manny or Gorski leaking it. Makes me long for the days of Larkonis Trassler. Several of the CSM reps who were on both 9 and 10 have commented that CCP not only communicated more frequently with CSM9, but were more likely to give them full details. ullerrm fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Jun 4, 2016 19:13
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about NPC capitals, and NPC carriers. Now that they only use fighters, we won't see NPC carriers until a fighter AI is written, right?
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Jun 4, 2016 19:20
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Oh, I should probably add to the list of changes -- they added a couple of new fighter types. * Support fighters -- fighters that do very little DPS but contribute ewar. Most notably, there are now fighters that can point, web, neut, and TD. * Air superiority fighters -- fighters optimized for killing other drones and fighters, and AB frigates. * Long-range bombers (supers only) -- a sniper variant of the FiBo Every fighter now has up to three "squad abilities" that they can use -- for example, light fighters have both a standard gun and a missile volley that has high alpha strike but limited uses.
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Jun 4, 2016 19:24
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-Troika- posted:Actual solo PVP, or the kind of "solo PVP" where you have link alts and a rep carrier on standby for if you start losing? It may be an unpopular opinion, but solo PVP is one character, one player. No alts, no links. Everything more is what I would call "really small gang PVP".
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Jun 4, 2016 19:33
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Libluini posted:It may be an unpopular opinion, but solo PVP is one character, one player. No alts, no links. Everything more is what I would call "really small gang PVP". It's as if your redtext is accurate and you do things like state your opinions as fact
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Jun 4, 2016 19:40
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I'd like to play but you said you don't like MRAs now....I'm no MRA, but I DO hate third wave feminist scumbags so I'll pass on this shimmering offer from the internet.
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Jun 4, 2016 20:46
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frozenpussy posted:It's as if your redtext is accurate and you do things like state your opinions as fact Yeah, that's why I started with saying it's only my opinion. 
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Libluini posted:Yeah, that's why I started with saying it's only my opinion. I was mostly taking the opportunity to comment on the coincidental redtext, but you could have said I think solo PVP is one character, one player. Then it wouldn't be an opinion disclaimer followed by a statement of fact. basically lol I'm going to be goony about this and not let go because redtext 
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Jun 4, 2016 20:53
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drat, LJ got booted from TNT as well...
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Jun 4, 2016 21:04
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He's in MOA now I think
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Jun 4, 2016 21:10
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Came here to post this: never do level 4 missions in a blaster rokh. Or anything in a rokh, really. Coolest looking but worst ship 
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Jun 4, 2016 21:15
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vyst posted:He's in MOA now I think Yeah, he's getting settled into the dry crusty wood fiber at the bottom of that barrel- I give it a week and he'll be in DYS0N.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:16
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vandalism posted:Came here to post this: never do level 4 missions in a blaster rokh. Or anything in a rokh, really. Coolest looking but worst ship Lies, rokh is the best smartbombing ship
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Oodles posted:It saddens me when I read about people taking about the death of the game. Just for context, 10 years ago people were saying the same things about EVE dying soon. Remember when leaving for Pirates of the Burning Sea was supposed to be the next big thing?
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That Works posted:Just for context, 10 years ago people were saying the same things about EVE dying soon. Remember when leaving for Pirates of the Burning Sea was supposed to be the next big thing? A game complete with its own TItan analogue in the "Price will balance them by making them rare" 1st and 2nd Rate ship-of-the-lines. They eventually removed the ability to build them, but left any surviving ships in-game and still usable.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:52
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who in groon got banned over rmt for the roses thing
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Archenteron posted:A game complete with its own TItan analogue in the "Price will balance them by making them rare" 1st and 2nd Rate ship-of-the-lines. They eventually removed the ability to build them, but left any surviving ships in-game and still usable. That's actually a pretty awesome solution for Eves supers / Titans.
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Jun 5, 2016 02:06
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My dog died a couple of days ago and this stupid gif is the first thing that's made me laugh since. Enjoy a sensible chuckle, EVE thread.
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Jun 5, 2016 04:41
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Sorry to hear about your dog
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Jazzzzz posted:My dog died a couple of days ago and this stupid gif is the first thing that's made me laugh since. Enjoy a sensible chuckle, EVE thread. 
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Jazzzzz posted:My dog died a couple of days ago and this stupid gif is the first thing that's made me laugh since. Enjoy a sensible chuckle, EVE thread. 8 days ago for me. I have a 2.5 month old girl that makes me smile, but it's still rough. Sorry for your loss.
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vyst posted:People that bitch about directorbot are the biggest bitch made babies on the planet. A bloo bloo I had to click a window. My life is inconvenienced by so much a bloo bloo But it distracted me from my VR porn and ruined my immersion. I wish I had a vr set
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Xolve posted:drat, LJ got booted from TNT as well... Yeah with MOA now, it's pretty fun never really did fleets before, holy hell there was a lot of stuff happening last night, just how many canes did you guys roll with? Sheesh.
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Jun 5, 2016 06:57
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bluegoon posted:Yeah with MOA now, it's pretty fun never really did fleets before, holy hell there was a lot of stuff happening last night, just how many canes did you guys roll with? Sheesh. who's your favorite pony
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Jun 5, 2016 07:06
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Orange Red Bull posted:who's your favorite pony Mine is the one in the field opposite my house if that helps? Also sorry about your dogs, jazzzz and pangloss.
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vandalism posted:Came here to post this: never do level 4 missions in a blaster rokh. Or anything in a rokh, really. Coolest looking but worst ship They were awesome back in the sniper/dual-DD-tank days
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Jazzzzz posted:My dog died a couple of days ago and this stupid gif is the first thing that's made me laugh since. Enjoy a sensible chuckle, EVE thread. I am truly sorry to hear about your loss and hope you feel better soon.
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ok have a look at this and a BIG WELLCOME TO HIGH SEC. I know alot has change from the last time most of you where there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x90nP7RLsnU I ok as you know mining in high sec is a little diffrent from 0.0 and the missioning running is some thing that could be some that you guys could look in to. as for me it looks like the drone lands are going to warm up a little.
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tempezt posted:ok have a look at this and a BIG WELLCOME TO HIGH SEC. English isn't your first language, is it?
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Jun 5, 2016 13:17
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Might just be a problem with the schools in Southampton.
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Thanks guys. Dr. Pangloss, I'm sorry to hear you're dealing with this too. Pets are great friends, and it's a damned shame they don't live as long as we do. In slightly brighter news I applied to put my mining alt in RVCMF last night, ran my first successful burner mission two-boxing a Kestrel and a Griffin, and I discovered that a Noctis beats the crap out of MTUs and a salvaging Cormorant. I'm getting tired of highsec krabbing though so I may take a break to play the new Witcher expansion and Uncharted 4 while I figure out which goon corp I want to join. Wormholes sound interesting to me, so maybe GSF/Hole Squad.
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Reverand maynard posted:who in groon got banned over rmt for the roses thing E: RIP dogges
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