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Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

so Blitzblast mentioned in the gunpla thread that they talked about a g-reco movie here http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/83062

I asked a friend of mine to translate it. Keep in mind it's not an official translation.

A half year's worth of development on the G-reco movie

A compilation and new anime

The second volume can't be made without the first volume being a hit

At last, the world is governed by Aida.

We hope we can remake the G-reco movie into a widely seen drama.

With dynamic characters and easy to understand presentation, we're making G-reco into something great.

The TV version was an establishing introduction.
We must distinguish it from something modern like SW, AKB, or Love Live

This lecture's fee comes from donations for the Kumamoto earthquakes relief

The news depicted the deceased

The title this time is a lie. It's a matter we leave as a business decision.

Today on this stage, we have a camera go into the viewpoint of the deceased (perhaps showing the production of the G-reco movie)

40 years ago, anime became included in movies (the procurement of rights). In order to eat, we need a name that can sell. I have to keep a strict schedule according to the long continuity. The work has to be chosen with its vices stamped out. The names this time are for example Asa(?) Minami and Iogi Rin.

We want to make clear the cinematic appeal of giant robots and realistic sci-fi in the first Gundam.

When it came to the first volume of the blurays, no one suggested any name for the title.

The continuation work (something about sales?)
In business, there are people who want to do things their way

The Gundams that sold well were honored, the ones that weren't were forgotten.

In those days, the interviews with the producers showed them as embarassingly stuck-up.

That was the view of Suzuki P. as a businessman.

Gundam was disappointing and had little marketability compared to the what is popular now.

A hit can't be made without luck (the tide of the era).

We lost completely to One Piece.

We wrote 2 or 3 books worth of unacceptable scenarios by the time we met the space elevator's Aoki-sensei.

Even now, we hate the space elevator.

The view from the climber experiment was gloomy. But in an age like that of the Wright Brothers, there might been radical changes in the dozens of years that've passed.
The theme of G-reco is the progress of science and the problem of polluting capitalism in the modern age

Anime was made for children since long ago. Today, we see a drop in quality with little innovation. The memories of children are worth a whole lifetime.

We want to evoke a similar kind of sympathy and response in adults now, and make a work that excites both adults and children.

Children ask aults what they want to do with "What are we doing tomorrow?"

G-reco's main problem isn't making a big hit. It's trying to catch the children's attention.

We need to remake the introduction to the series with a widely seen movie version, and we hope that everyone finds the first volume of G-reco very good. We can't make volume 2 without it being a hit.

Considering the above circumstances, we can't see a new SW work.

With a scenario about fallout, a philosophy of government must be studied anew. Aida thinks about ruling the world as a queen.

We need one more copy of an introduction to the methodology. The references we have now are still inadequate.

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boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
If I understand that, they're going to make a compilation movie that attempts to present the story of season 1 in a more clear manner, and if that's successful there'll be a second season?

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

boom boom boom posted:

If I understand that, they're going to make a compilation movie that attempts to present the story of season 1 in a more clear manner, and if that's successful there'll be a second season?

I asked for clarification and it's gonna be a second movie if the compilation movie does well, not another season.

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat
Given the sheer volume of superfluous fights in g-rec it seems like it'd be fairly easy to cut down to a film.

Tomino really is fixed on the whole "gotta be more popular than AKB48" thing isn't he.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Artum posted:

Given the sheer volume of superfluous fights in g-rec it seems like it'd be fairly easy to cut down to a film.

Tomino really is fixed on the whole "gotta be more popular than AKB48" thing isn't he.

That's not a bad thing to aspire to, considering his views on pop culture.

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

Artum posted:

Given the sheer volume of superfluous fights in g-rec it seems like it'd be fairly easy to cut down to a film.

Tomino really is fixed on the whole "gotta be more popular than AKB48" thing isn't he.

is that what SW is? neither of us knew.

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat

Droyer posted:

is that what SW is? neither of us knew.

No I've no clue on what that is, AKB is just going on his mention of it here and in the previous interview.

Arcsquad12 posted:

That's not a bad thing to aspire to, considering his views on pop culture.

AKB is popular in a deeply creepy and troubling way though, if you want to aspire to mass mass mass appeal then surely aim for one piece or something.

I really do hope this does well for him though, would love to have g-rec end on less of a wet fart than the series did.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
I look forward to a G-Reco recut movie. Really hoping it fixes the problems with the show since it's really pretty and has such great mech design.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Honestly, this has me curious.

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat
Only potential concern with a recut is: given how g-recs plot already kind of feels like its on fast forward, cutting out more stuff could lead to a garzey's wing-esque mess.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Artum posted:



AKB is popular in a deeply creepy and troubling way though, if you want to aspire to mass mass mass appeal then surely aim for one piece or something.

I really do hope this does well for him though, would love to have g-rec end on less of a wet fart than the series did.

Perhaps I should rephrase that. It's not to aspire to AKB's popularity, but to snuff it out. Tomino has never been one to mince words and it's pretty clear he doens't think very highly of mass media. Sure, G-Reco isn't his best work, but I admire his attempts to create thought provoking content and I'd rather watch something interesting like that than delve into the skeezy world of idol groups.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Artum posted:

Only potential concern with a recut is: given how g-recs plot already kind of feels like its on fast forward, cutting out more stuff could lead to a garzey's wing-esque mess.

Yah if it were two compilation movies I'd be pretty hyped, but one sounds very messy.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Srice posted:

Yah if it were two compilation movies I'd be pretty hyped, but one sounds very messy.

Considering G-Reco needed a good 6-8 episodes to flesh out the middle arc, my hopes are not high for a single movie covering the entire 26-episode run. Maybe if they rebuilt and rewrote it from scratch for pacing, but not as a compilation film.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Honestly the only change I'd want out of the pacing would have been maybe 5-10 more minutes for the finale and with a compilation movie there's a deece chance I'll get my wish.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Considering G-Reco needed a good 6-8 episodes to flesh out the middle arc, my hopes are not high for a single movie covering the entire 26-episode run. Maybe if they rebuilt and rewrote it from scratch for pacing, but not as a compilation film.

If they excise a chunk of the story points and add some bridging scenes, essentially shortening the series but adding more context to the events that do occur, I feel it could work.

I'm reserving final judgement for the actual compilation movie.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Droyer posted:

so Blitzblast mentioned in the gunpla thread that they talked about a g-reco movie here http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/83062

We lost completely to One Piece.

Does that imply they were stupid enough to think G-reco even had a chance to compete with One Piece? Cause if so then that's hysterical.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

TaurusOxford posted:

Does that imply they were stupid enough to think G-reco even had a chance to compete with One Piece? Cause if so then that's hysterical.

It's talking about Gundam as a shonen franchise, which is more of a cult hit than One Piece's mainstream success.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Was browsing crunchyroll and saw "MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM UNICORN RE:0096". I've tried to watch a couple of Gundam series before and it never took, but this one seems interesting. Do I need any understanding of the gundam universe etc to enjoy it?

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Chas McGill posted:

Was browsing crunchyroll and saw "MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM UNICORN RE:0096". I've tried to watch a couple of Gundam series before and it never took, but this one seems interesting. Do I need any understanding of the gundam universe etc to enjoy it?

Unicorn is possibly the worst gundam possible to try and jump into as a new viewer, yes. Also the worst gundam.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



mr. stefan posted:

Unicorn is possibly the worst gundam possible to try and jump into as a new viewer, yes. Also the worst gundam.

Not as long as AGE exists.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Age is a bad show but unicorn is very specifically a bad gundam because it parrots the iconography and themes of gundam as a group of works in a really asinine way while bringing nothing new to the table, relying entirely on bang-zoom superficial action and Ready Player One style pavlovian nostalgia triggers while utterly failing to actually say anything.

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet
It is also very pretty to look at

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
OK I'll leave it then. I tried the latest series and I didn't really understand what was going on.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Chas McGill posted:

OK I'll leave it then. I tried the latest series and I didn't really understand what was going on.

Which series did you watch before, and in what way would you say they "didn't take?"

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Chas McGill posted:

OK I'll leave it then. I tried the latest series and I didn't really understand what was going on.

Either start with 0079, movies for time or show for extra footage, or 0080: War in the Pocket. It's self contained, and one of the best OVAs in the franchise.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

0080 is unironically one of the best works of sci Fi animation there is and also requires both very little knowledge of the franchise to understand and very little time investment, since it's a short OVA series.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

mr. stefan posted:

Age is a bad show but unicorn is very specifically a bad gundam because it parrots the iconography and themes of gundam as a group of works in a really asinine way while bringing nothing new to the table, relying entirely on bang-zoom superficial action and Ready Player One style pavlovian nostalgia triggers while utterly failing to actually say anything.

that also applies to AGE to some extent from what I saw

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

I know a fair amount of folks who enjoyed Unicorn despite not having experienced any Gundam before, yall are overselling how inaccessible it is. There's a lot of broad strokes where that knowledge helps but they are a bit more direct when talking about the more important things.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

I wouldn't recommend it as a first Gundam of course, but heck if someone really wants to watch it and it gets them interested in watching other shows, then who am I to judge which way works.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
I tried watching Reconguista in G and Iron Blooded Orphans since they were on Crunchyroll. I liked the design of the robots and the idea of interstellar robot conflict, but I didn't watch more than 5 episodes of either of them - not getting on with the characters and not knowing the context for the shows probably made me lose interest.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Motto posted:

that also applies to AGE to some extent from what I saw

The first generation of AGE was 90% 0079 and 10% Haggar/Strider Gundam. Generation two of AGE was "newtypes are overrated - just be a SUPAH PIROTTO!" Generation three of AGE was "You thought Kira Yamato's pacifisim was annoying? You ain't seen nothing yet".

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

There's not much context to get, IBO is standalone and Reco's connection to UC is summed up early on: "lots of war happened in the past and hosed the earth".

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Motto posted:

that also applies to AGE to some extent from what I saw

I don't doubt it, but I also ditched age pretty early whereas I followed unicorn to the bitter end. I have a more subjective hate for unicorn specifically because its much more polished presentation can sucker people into thinking it has any merits aside from production value, since the whole ordeal is very obviously designed to distract the viewer with flashy action so they don't realize that the entire underlying structure is hollow.

E: like, to be clear here, I have literally never seen a single argument in unicorn's favor that didn't either rely entirely on some bizarre fandom Orthodox about how it "has" to do certain things and is just an exercise in clean execution of the trite, or a plain argument that it's good because high production value means cool robots fighting.

Age is, on the other hand, very clear upfront that it's gonna be a total shitshow so even people trying to defend it give up.

Babysitter Super Sleuth fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jun 6, 2016

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet
There was one poster in this thread who liked AGE but I can't remember who they were or their reasons for liking it

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Motto posted:

There's not much context to get, IBO is standalone and Reco's connection to UC is summed up early on: "lots of war happened in the past and hosed the earth".

Both of them can be summed up as "The Earth got hosed badly a few centuries back and we would really like to not see a repeat."

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

mr. stefan posted:

I don't doubt it, but I also ditched age pretty early whereas I followed unicorn to the bitter end. I have a more subjective hate for unicorn specifically because its much more polished presentation can sucker people into thinking it has any merits aside from production value, since the whole ordeal is very obviously designed to distract the viewer with flashy action so they don't realize that the entire underlying structure is hollow.

Age is, on the other hand, very clear upfront that it's gonna be a total shitshow so even people trying to defend it give up.

You can disagree with them, but it's pretty stuck up to think that anybody that liked Unicorn was tricked into doing so.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
A reminder that 0083 is still super popular in Japan despite it having a moronic story wrapped around a straightforward plot. You don't have to trick people into liking junk.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Dangerous Person posted:

There was one poster in this thread who liked AGE but I can't remember who they were or their reasons for liking it
That might be me you're thinking of. It's less that I especially liked it and more that I thought Gens 1 and 2 were just average and that overall I liked a lot of the mecha designs for the Vagans.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Chas McGill posted:

Was browsing crunchyroll and saw "MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM UNICORN RE:0096". I've tried to watch a couple of Gundam series before and it never took, but this one seems interesting. Do I need any understanding of the gundam universe etc to enjoy it?

Unicorn is a cool show with very pretty animation, great mech designs and some nice fights/setpieces. If all you're looking for is some good giant robot action, it's a good watch. The plot itself is self-contained, but a lot of it is informed by events of previous Universal Century timeline Gundam shows, so you might want to look up some specific terms/character names online. Not having seen those other shows will prevent you from getting the call-backs and shout-outs but the show is still enjoyable.

Whether or not you'll stick with it depends on why you bounced off other Gundam shows, though.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
A lot of the show is continuity and reference pornography. There's a lot of pretty mobile suits featured in Unicorn, and the entertainment is doubled if it is a suit you liked and you now get to see it in updated visuals.

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