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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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chemosh6969 posted:

Doesn't matter if it's not illegal where you are. You're a federal employee and have to follow those rules. If you ever read the files on the guys getting denied security clearance, you'll run across some that say the guy used weed before and one of the reasons for denial is that while it may be legal where he is, you still have to follow the fed laws.

Well no loving poo poo, guy. But a state/county/city cop can't arrest you, thus causing the military to recall you and terminate your benefits if its legal in the location of the arrest that wouldn't happen because it wouldn't be a crime.

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Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009
lmbo if you dont have enough self control to not smoke weed like a retard for a couple months

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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I just think fears of getting called in from terminal leave are pretty overblown :shrug:


we have an example of what, one person that shoplifted out of how many that ets every single year?


like if you get arrested on terminal leave and you're 500 miles away from base the military wont even know, smh.

y'all scared of the loving military man lol

CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jun 8, 2016

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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OH soulex though if you're on TRDL dont gently caress around because they do drug test you like all the time from what my pal says

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
whats the overlap percentage on a venn diagram of "people dumb enough to get caught smoking weed on terminal" and "dumb enough to enlist"

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

Well no loving poo poo, guy. But a state/county/city cop can't arrest you, thus causing the military to recall you and terminate your benefits if its legal in the location of the arrest that wouldn't happen because it wouldn't be a crime.

Pretty much this. If I did it on post that would be a different story, but there would still need to be some type of probable cause for them to have to piss test me. Most of the time traffic violations outside of post aren't doubled up on with UCMJ unless it's something stupid like a DUI. Case in point, I was driving on I-5 to a Sounders game where I had a media pass and I was going to be on the field shooting a video etc for work. Some woman hits me while I'm in the left lane, shoves my car up on two wheels and I slam back down, the tires pop and I can barely steer. I made it across all 4 lanes without hitting someone miraculously. It was another driver that caused the accident which forced her into me, but I didn't have to take a piss test. I wasn't even told to do a field sobriety one.

When I was younger, maybe. I used to drive stoned all the loving time. I got pulled over by Crestview cops once because it's a small town with 5 different law divisions dedicated to "protect and serve" and I was stoned out my gourd. I was with my friend, I just got off work and picked him up. The cop asked if I smoked and I was incredulous. I said "Hell no, I just got done working at Hooters (still had the wing flour stained and crusted Hooters shirt) and this is my mananger's number if you need to verify." He then said "Well, I think your friend might." I acted shocked and he said that he found a little nugget in the seat he was in, searched him but didn't find anything (Keep your weed inbetween the gas cap and the gas flap fellas) and that I needed to have a heart to heart with him because it was going to be a bad road that he went down. I told him "yessir! I absolutely will!" and he let us go. We had that talk and we laughed cause what the gently caress ever. These cops were malicious though. I've almost been T-Boned when I had right of way and got a ticket for "reckless driving." I also had a cop weave through traffic to pull me over like I was robbing a bank or something only because he pulled me over like 8 months ago and wanted to see if I had insurance. My recruiter actually gave me 250 bucks to pay that off so I could enlist.

I've smoked weed while in the army, I've done coke while in the Army. I'm not proud of it. In fact I failed MEPS the very first loving time I went up there to actually enlist (the first two times were for ASVAB and background checks) because I pissed hot. I was denied a security clearance there but immediately got one from the first unit I went to. I have almost gotten caught, and it really opened my eyes that I needed to stop doing stupid things. I was in Iraq when they tested and I just came back from leave so I don't know how I didn't get caught. Regardless, it's one of those things where I feel that while I made a mistake in the past and I don't plan on repeating it, I also don't plan on putting myself in a situation that could cause me problems if it were to arise. My life is getting to be really good right now. I'm about to separate with 80% VA Disability, I'm moving to San Diego, I literally just got accepted into University of San Diego to get a degree that I really want, and my wife and two kids are really awesome. Yeah I have PTSD and I'm prone to bits of inexplicable stupidity mixed with carelessness but if there is one thing I do have, it's a moral compass. The Army didn't give me that, I had it from day 1. poo poo, I even turned down a girl I had previously dated but never hosed when she met me in a Burger King parking lot drunk off her rear end and wanted me to go do butt stuff to her at a party. I didn't because she was drunk. I used to kick myself for it until I see where she is now, married with a kid, and she actually told me thanks for not following through. She was a whirlwind of poo poo for a bit. I think she finally woke up when she was kicked out of a car in the rain butt naked and black out drunk, and woke up in a hospital after she had died from alcohol poisoning.

It's up to each individual. Can you be recalled? Absofuckinglutely. I never denied that, I just said I'm gonna make it loving hard for them. Is it likely to happen? Not really. I can't see why unless you really hosed up somewhere.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

OH soulex though if you're on TRDL dont gently caress around because they do drug test you like all the time from what my pal says

Really? This is new information to me. Mind asking who, like the VA, and where?

I'll be on TDRL for a bit only because I needed to get PTSD added on to my 199 because I wouldn't have been retired otherwise, and it's a good reason why my NCOERs have been poo poo. It affected my job and I didn't realize it.

edit: I have to look it up, but I think if I use for the PTSD and am going through treatment that I'm protected. They just passed something not long ago involving weed and caretakers but I have to double check.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I'm sure as hell not saying it's likely or common. But " :lol: gently caress them they can't touch me!" is absolutely positively WRONG. Don't separate as stupid as you joined.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Godholio posted:

I'm sure as hell not saying it's likely or common. But " :lol: gently caress them they can't touch me!" is absolutely positively WRONG. Don't separate as stupid as you joined.

I didn't join stupid. It was either enlisting, or being homeless.

Before my 1SG retired a week or so ago, he gave me a counselling because I didn't shave in the morning before PT. He said "You can leave the Army with you head held high, a SGT who has accomplished much in your profession. Or you can leave a Specialist and on extra duty." Yeah, that was enough of a threat to make me realize that I'm gonna toe the line regardless of how stupid bullshit is.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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Soulex posted:

Really? This is new information to me. Mind asking who, like the VA, and where?

I'll be on TDRL for a bit only because I needed to get PTSD added on to my 199 because I wouldn't have been retired otherwise, and it's a good reason why my NCOERs have been poo poo. It affected my job and I didn't realize it.

edit: I have to look it up, but I think if I use for the PTSD and am going through treatment that I'm protected. They just passed something not long ago involving weed and caretakers but I have to double check.

IDK I would look into it. VA is pretty lovely. People should be afraid of the VA. Guy has follow up appointments with VA all the time and he says a drug test is the first they do. I won't like I don't know poo poo about how tdrl works. I'm PDRL and don't go to VA.


Godholio posted:

I'm sure as hell not saying it's likely or common. But " :lol: gently caress them they can't touch me!" is absolutely positively WRONG. Don't separate as stupid as you joined.

Sure, fair enough. I was operating on the assumption that Soulex wasn't planning on robbing an AAFES on his way out.

CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jun 8, 2016

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
I got a phone call while on terminal that I needed to come do a PT test. Turns out it wasn't due until a week after I separated.

I wonder if they would have made me drive back from Michigan to run in a circle 🤔

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

lmbo if you dont have enough self control to not smoke weed like a retard for a couple months

Also this.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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oh in that case keep your hair cut in regulations on terminal leave so maybe if in the 1/10000000 chance you get called in a SGT doesn't yell at you :qq:

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Based on the flawless logic here I assume you'd also gently caress a 17 year old 2 weeks before she was legal

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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Zeris posted:

Based on the flawless logic here I assume you'd also gently caress a 17 year old 2 weeks before she was legal

well if i was interested in loving a 17 year old girl, I wouldn't be afraid that somehow MAGICALLY the army 1000 miles away would find out about it while I was on terminal leave!

CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jun 8, 2016

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Zeris posted:

Based on the flawless logic here I assume you'd also gently caress a 17 year old 2 weeks before she was legal

But she didnt give birth till she was 18!

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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like are you guys so afraid of everything? I get that there is a greater than zero chance that you could get in trouble, I'm not arguing that. Its just so infinitesimally small IDK why people freak out. Do you have panic attacks everytime you drive a car? YOU COULD DIE??!??!

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
:nallears:

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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OK got it. fine. wrap yourself up in bubblewrap guys.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
I got called back on terminal to turn in a building key I forgot to turn in, ended up getting into a fistfight with the guy above me who got promoted to SSG because he was a dicksucker. Before that I was going through months of being hosed with because I told them I wasn't re-enlisting. He was giving me poo poo again, I told him I was getting out of the stupid loving army because of pieces of poo poo like him, then he punched me lol. Good times. gently caress the army smdftb, I hope that fuckhead is dead.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

like are you guys so afraid of everything? I get that there is a greater than zero chance that you could get in trouble, I'm not arguing that. Its just so infinitesimally small IDK why people freak out. Do you have panic attacks everytime you drive a car? YOU COULD DIE??!??!

I really feel like you're raging against the machine when our advice basically boils down to "don't do illegal drugs until you're out." Is it really so loving outrageous?

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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I think I just need caffeine and I'm on edge.

It's good advice. Sorry if I'm raging. Spent all night having a loving anxiety attack and couldn't sleep. Almost went to the ER. I loving hate my life. Sorry if I was hostile, I'll drop it.

It doesn't matter what advice anyone gives anyway, because I guess this thread has pointed out that IDIOT FINDS A WAY. Even bigger idiots (me) argue about it :sigh:

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
A 0.1% chance is still a chance

That said, I was smoking hella weed like a month after my terminal started while also harassing the shitbird S1 squadron commander's bitch nugget lover for my goddamn cav saber and had to pick it up at Syrachse airport. Some poor Joe had to hand it off and he barely recognized me. Whatever. Smoke weed. Be dumb. Post the story. When has anyone listened to GIP anyway? That's the veteran legacy. Go do dumb poo poo, come home and say "guys that was dumb we probably shouldn't do that again" and get promptly ignored and forced into a VA secret waitlist for hepatitis needle sharing parties and write poetry about the trenches outside of Verdun and watching our buddy's face melt from gas attacks and high schoolers will read that poo poo and be like "war is metal bro I'm thinking of joining" and all of GIP and this dead gay forum rolls over in our graves as emperor trump's cyberlegions yank another dumb ETS kid off terminal leave for forgetting to turn off his xbox live camera before toking up on terminal

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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Zeris posted:

A 0.1% chance is still a chance

That said, I was smoking hella weed like a month after my terminal started while also harassing the shitbird S1 squadron commander's bitch nugget lover for my goddamn cav saber and had to pick it up at Syrachse airport. Some poor Joe had to hand it off and he barely recognized me. Whatever. Smoke weed. Be dumb. Post the story. When has anyone listened to GIP anyway? That's the veteran legacy. Go do dumb poo poo, come home and say "guys that was dumb we probably shouldn't do that again" and get promptly ignored and forced into a VA secret waitlist for hepatitis needle sharing parties and write poetry about the trenches outside of Verdun and watching our buddy's face melt from gas attacks and high schoolers will read that poo poo and be like "war is metal bro I'm thinking of joining" and all of GIP and this dead gay forum rolls over in our graves as emperor trump's cyberlegions yank another dumb ETS kid off terminal leave for forgetting to turn off his xbox live camera before toking up on terminal

this is a loving glorious post

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
Lol its pretty good to watch soulex try to rationalize a stupid decision through the most enlisted.txt way possible. Fair winds and following seas dummy. You probably won't get hosed and lose all access to benefits like your dumbshit friend. Jesus Christ

Edit: where is your concern about bennies and finances and poo poo at now?

HCT: when you see someone post, wringing their hands about family and whether they are making the right decision and poo poo and then they take on a cavalier additude towards something that puts all those decisions at risk it really makes you question whether or not they're retarded

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 8, 2016

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Please tell me the xbox live camera thing actually happened :allears:

edit:

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Lol its pretty good to watch soulex try to rationalize a stupid decision through the most enlisted.txt way possible. Fair winds and following seas dummy. You probably won't get hosed and lose all access to benefits like your dumbshit friend. Jesus Christ

Edit: where is your concern about bennies and finances and poo poo at now?

HCT: when you see someone post, wringing their hands about family and whether they are making the right decision and poo poo and then they take on a cavalier additude towards something that puts all those decisions at risk it really makes you question whether or not they're retarded

Look here motherfucker, I never said I would, I said I could. I never said I'm gonna toke up with DD-214 in hand pants around my ankles and saluting the flag while farting retreat. I'm saying if you do it, don't be loving stupid. If I were to do it, I wouldn't be loving stupid.

My concern is still there, and it's the reason why I'm not smoking weed right now. The fact that the dude said they test on TLDR is a new prospect because that would mean even if I do separate without smoking, that I'll need to keep my ears clean and that's a new discovery for me. I'm still gonna get my marijuna card, doesn't mean I have to buy the store out.

double edit: Of course I'm retarded, I enlisted.

Soulex fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jun 8, 2016

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

I once locked a guy up for direct crack sale to an undercover and it turns out he was wanted Ina warrant for deserting (or whatever you call it) from the army in 2004. Apparently he finished basic, went home, smoked a shitload of weed and found out they were giving piss tests when he got back, so he just left the base and came back to NYC to deal crack.

He was sentenced to 5 days for direct sale to the undercover and I guess the military came and got him from Rikers.

so uh don't deal drugs it might catch up with you 8 years later

also if you are still doing street level crack deals after 8 years you suck as a dealer

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

If you're involved with crack period you suck at life.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Smiling Jack posted:

I once locked a guy up for direct crack sale to an undercover and it turns out he was wanted Ina warrant for deserting (or whatever you call it) from the army in 2004. Apparently he finished basic, went home, smoked a shitload of weed and found out they were giving piss tests when he got back, so he just left the base and came back to NYC to deal crack.

He was sentenced to 5 days for direct sale to the undercover and I guess the military came and got him from Rikers.

so uh don't deal drugs it might catch up with you 8 years later

also if you are still doing street level crack deals after 8 years you suck as a dealer

Dealing crack gives you 5 days in jail? I thought the US was in war with drugs.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Syncopated posted:

Dealing crack gives you 5 days in jail? I thought the US was in war with drugs.

But we're also capitalists, so we punish the demand side more

hogmartin
Mar 27, 2007

Syncopated posted:

Dealing crack gives you 5 days in jail? I thought the US was in war with drugs.

He was probably waiting 6 years in Rikers for a trial so they gave him time served + 5 days.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Seriously, coke is where it's at.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Syncopated posted:

Dealing crack gives you 5 days in jail? I thought the US was in war with drugs.

Obviously this is why we're losing

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Holy poo poo this thread is full of loving retards slap fighting about dumb poo poo

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


About=we are..... It's all the same

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Pesticide20 posted:

Holy poo poo this thread is full of loving retards slap fighting about dumb poo poo

Did you come here with some type of loftier expectations? Perhaps this is the perfect place for you if so

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I think I just need caffeine and I'm on edge.

It's good advice. Sorry if I'm raging. Spent all night having a loving anxiety attack and couldn't sleep. Almost went to the ER. I loving hate my life. Sorry if I was hostile, I'll drop it.

S'all good brah.

quote:

It doesn't matter what advice anyone gives anyway, because I guess this thread has pointed out that IDIOT FINDS A WAY.

Truest loving thing in the thread.

Edit:

Zeris posted:

A 0.1% chance is still a chance

That said, I was smoking hella weed like a month after my terminal started while also harassing the shitbird S1 squadron commander's bitch nugget lover for my goddamn cav saber and had to pick it up at Syrachse airport. Some poor Joe had to hand it off and he barely recognized me. Whatever. Smoke weed. Be dumb. Post the story. When has anyone listened to GIP anyway? That's the veteran legacy. Go do dumb poo poo, come home and say "guys that was dumb we probably shouldn't do that again" and get promptly ignored and forced into a VA secret waitlist for hepatitis needle sharing parties and write poetry about the trenches outside of Verdun and watching our buddy's face melt from gas attacks and high schoolers will read that poo poo and be like "war is metal bro I'm thinking of joining" and all of GIP and this dead gay forum rolls over in our graves as emperor trump's cyberlegions yank another dumb ETS kid off terminal leave for forgetting to turn off his xbox live camera before toking up on terminal

Except maybe this.

Edit2:

Syncopated posted:

Dealing crack gives you 5 days in jail? I thought the US was in war with drugs.

What the gently caress makes you think we take wars seriously these days?

Godholio fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jun 8, 2016

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound
https://twitter.com/Local12/status/740709249211305984

Fun game: identify the bigger idiot.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB



She's so broke its come to this?

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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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isn't bristol the literally retarded one?

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