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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

icantfindaname posted:

Uber's entire business model is running at a loss off of VC money to force the competition out of the market

It seems to be working for Saudi Arabia!

Sort of!

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Well it turns out that Trump is actually hiring an internal pollster for his campaign. Maybe he really is starting to pivot and take things more seriously...

oh wait its Dick Morris ahahah

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

icantfindaname posted:

Uber's entire business model is running at a loss off of VC money to force the competition out of the market

And they can't even manage that right.

They should have stuck to their original, profitable, business model of running dispatch for black car service with slightly cheaper prices and more convenient dispatch than normal ones.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Not all that impressive actually. Hillary +5% just nabs Arizona, Missouri and Georgia.

If Georgia goes blue I'm buying a round for the whole bar and toasting the decline of suburban shitholes.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

SubponticatePoster posted:

Goddamnit, now I really want Hill to do the Welcome gesture (DS2 version) at the beginning of every speech.


@RealDonaldTrump now the real fight begins but hole

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

there wolf posted:

If Georgia goes blue I'm buying a round for the whole bar and toasting the decline of suburban shitholes.

Same.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

DemeaninDemon posted:

The laughably evil part is the 7.7% fee. Which legislature is loving a board member for that company?

Yeah, even if it's just pre-paid cards this alone makes it really disgusting even over normal civil forfeiture (which by itself is awful).

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
What's the current jurisprudence on civil asset forfeiture, by the way? Have any circuits ruled on it yet?

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Stallion Cabana posted:

Are Hillary's Email still a complete nonscandel that aren't a threat of incareration at all?

If laws are laws, then we wait for the FBI to make the call. She totally hosed up though. (anyone other than a cabinet level position would be Snowdened)

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Well it turns out that Trump is actually hiring an internal pollster for his campaign. Maybe he really is starting to pivot and take things more seriously...

oh wait its Dick Morris ahahah

You might say he's toeing the line
dipping a toe in the water
putting his best foot forward
jumping in feet first
trying to land on his feet
picking up a dedicated footsoldier

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Meat Recital posted:

What's the current jurisprudence on civil asset forfeiture, by the way? Have any circuits ruled on it yet?

Unless something has changed very recently it has a roughly sixty-year pedigree, if not farther; there's an argument you can trace it all the way back to the medieval law of deodand, though in modern parlance the doctrine is based off admiralty law from the 19th century and prohibition-era cases involving smuggling. But it's been pretty consistently allowed in one form or another all along. It just really took the gently caress off once the war on drugs turbocharged opportunities for smuggling confiscations and various federal laws allowed police to self-fund their departments by adopting it on a wide scale.

My favorite forfeiture case is probably .U S. v. One 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano Military rifle, 250 F.Supp. 410, (N.D.Tx. 1966) -- yup, that's the government using asset forfeiture to seize the kennedy assassination rifle.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

This is why you just wire the funds and say it's for supporting your cousin Dongchao at the local state college.

Never mind that it's directly to an escrow company it's for cousin Dongchao, honest.

Dick Milhous Rock!
Aug 9, 1974

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Well it turns out that Trump is actually hiring an internal pollster for his campaign. Maybe he really is starting to pivot and take things more seriously...

oh wait its Dick Morris ahahah

I would want Dick Morris involved in any campaign I ran so that way I could immediately tell if any opinion I had was wrong by determining if Dick Morris shared it.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Tomorrow, the US House of Representatives will vote on a resolution recognizing magic as a valuable art form.

David Copperfield will be present.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Joementum posted:

Tomorrow, the US House of Representatives will vote on a resolution recognizing magic as a valuable art form.

David Copperfield will be present.

gently caress David Copperfield, why isn't Dumbledore there?

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
e: ^^^ because he's dead, silly

Joementum posted:

Tomorrow, the US House of Representatives will vote on a resolution recognizing magic as a valuable art form.

David Copperfield will be present.
Are they specifically using the word magic? 'Cause that's gonna piss some fundies off who still believe witches are a thing and Dumbledore is Satanic.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Joementum posted:

David Copperfield will be present.
OR WILL HE???????

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

SubponticatePoster posted:

Are they specifically using the word magic? 'Cause that's gonna piss some fundies off who still believe witches are a thing and Dumbledore is Satanic.

114th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. RES. 642

Recognizing magic as a rare and valuable art form and national
treasure.


_______________________________________________________________________


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 14, 2016

Mr. Sessions (for himself, Mr. Stivers, Mr. Meehan, Mr. Donovan, Mr.
Dent, Mr. Simpson, and Mr. Buck) submitted the following resolution;
which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

_______________________________________________________________________

RESOLUTION



Recognizing magic as a rare and valuable art form and national
treasure.

Whereas magic is an art form with the unique power and potential to impact the
lives of all people;
Whereas magic enables people to experience the impossible;
Whereas magic is used to inspire and bring wonder and happiness to others;
Whereas magic has had a significant impact on other art forms;
Whereas magic, like the great art forms of dance, literature, theater, film, and
the visual arts, allows people to experience something that transcends
the written word;
Whereas many technological advances can be directly traced to the influential
work of magicians;
Whereas futurist Arthur C. Clarke claimed that any sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable from magic;
Whereas one of the greatest artists of all time, Leonardo da Vinci, was inspired
by magic and co-wrote one of the very first books on magic in the late
15th century;
Whereas modern cinema would not exist today without the innovative work of the
accomplished magician Georges Melies;
Whereas magicians are visual storytellers who seamlessly interweave elements of
mystery, wonder, emotion, and expression;
Whereas magic is an outstanding artistic model of individual expression;
Whereas magic fulfills some of the highest ideals and aspirations of our country
by encouraging people to question what they believe and see;
Whereas magic is a unifying force across cultural, religious, ethnic, and age
differences in our diverse Nation;
Whereas magic is an art that transforms the ordinary into the extraordinary;
Whereas the American magicians Harry Houdini and David Copperfield have been the
most successful magicians of the past two centuries;
Whereas David Copperfield, introduced to magic as a boy growing up in New
Jersey, has been named a Living Legend by the Library of Congress;
Whereas David Copperfield, with 21 Emmy Awards, 11 Guinness World Records, and
over four billion dollars in ticket sales, has impacted every aspect of
the global entertainment industry;
Whereas David Copperfield, through his magic, inspires great positive change in
the lives of Americans;
Whereas people consistently leave David Copperfield's live magic show with a
different perspective than when they entered;
Whereas Rebecca Brown of Portland, Oregon, left a David Copperfield magic show
with a newfound inspiration to pursue her lifelong, unfulfilled passion
for dance;
Whereas three months after Rebecca Brown attended the David Copperfield magic
show, she performed her first choreographed recital in Portland,
Oregon's Pioneer Square;
Whereas programs such as Project Magic, created by David Copperfield, use magic
as a form of therapy for children with physical, psychological, and
social disabilities;
Whereas learning magic through programs such as Project Magic can help these
children improve their physical and mental dexterity and increase their
confidence;
Whereas learning magic through programs such as Project Magic helps these
children realize that they are no longer less able than their peers;
Whereas programs such as Project Magic teach these children that they are more
capable and have a newfound ability to do what others cannot;
Whereas cities such as Wylie, Texas, and its mayor, Eric Hogue, recognize and
promote the art of magic with official proclamations, summer educational
programs, and the first festival dedicated to the art of magic in the
State of Texas;
Whereas Mayor Eric Hogue, who learned the art of magic as a child, continues to
use those skills to teach elementary school students about the different
roles and responsibilities of local government;
Whereas magic is timeless in appeal and requires only the capacity to dream;
Whereas magic transcends any barrier of race, religion, language, or culture;
Whereas magic has not been properly recognized as a great American art form, nor
has it been accorded the institutional status on a national level
commensurate with its value and importance;
Whereas there is not an effective national effort to support and preserve magic;
Whereas documentation and archival support required by such a great art form has
yet to be systematically applied to the field of magic; and
Whereas it is in the best interest of the national welfare to preserve and
celebrate the unique art form of magic: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
(1) recognizes magic as a rare and valuable art form and
national treasure; and
(2) supports efforts to make certain that magic is
preserved, understood, and promulgated.
<all>

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Magic being real would do much to explain this year

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Maybe they see this as a way to start a spell to vanquish The Donald.

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science
That resolution demands to be taken seriously.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Internet Webguy posted:

That resolution demands to be taken seriously.

:golfclap:

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
How many congressmen will bitch about witchy Satan magic?

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

U S. v. One 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano Military rifle, 250 F.Supp. 410, (N.D.Tx. 1966) -- yup, that's the government using asset forfeiture to seize the kennedy assassination rifle.

That's a pretty good one that I didn't know about. I was always partial to United States v. Approximately 64,695 Pounds of Shark Fins, but now everybody knows about it because of Last Week Tonight.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

Dexo posted:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/talk-grows-replacing-trump-convention-000000790.html


:getin:

Edit:On second thought don't gently caress this up Trump. I need to see that first debate.

Comedy option: GOP ratfucks Trump, who goes 3rd party, then Hillary refuses to do any debates without Trump present.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


ErIog posted:

That's a pretty good one that I didn't know about. I was always partial to United States v. Approximately 64,695 Pounds of Shark Fins, but now everybody knows about it because of Last Week Tonight.

United States v. One Lucite Ball Containing Lunar Material (One Moon Rock) and One Ten Inch by Fourteen Inch Wooden Plaque is my personal favorite.

That's right, we sued the moon and won.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Shifty Pony posted:

United States v. One Lucite Ball Containing Lunar Material (One Moon Rock) and One Ten Inch by Fourteen Inch Wooden Plaque is my personal favorite.

That's right, we sued the moon and won.

I prefer United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

A Man With A Plan posted:

Especially since the biggest user of prepaid cards are poor, unbanked people who still need a card for bills/online purchases or whatever. What a surprise that this practice hits the unfortunate the hardest.

There was something on npr about how despite a law against it being passed, cops in NM (i think) were still going hog wild on forfeiture. It more than many other issues totally galls me and I'd hope for a supreme court case if they can get 5 liberals. Or hell, even the right conservative would be against it.

Ditto for cash though, which is why I said this is bad... but not really worse than the bad that already existed other than I suppose just making it more common by providing more opportunities for it to happen.

Does anyone have a source for the 7.7% being kept from the returned money? I read that as the government owes 7.7% , not sure what the rational would be for letting the government keep a funding fee out of a seizure that was struck down.

McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

readingatwork posted:

I don't want people thinking her brand of center-right progressivism is why people voted for her.

Go back up the thread and look at the Reagan maps again. Did the rightward swing he started end at his positions?

No? Not even remotely?

The effect of that was not seen as an endorsement of reagan's precise platform but rather as total electoral rejection of the left leading to left leaning politicians self censoring to ensure they don't get voted out. A process that continued for decades ending way way to the right of Reagan himself.

We want a reverse Reagan. We want that map to go solid blue. The point isn't to push the leftmost fringe slightly more left. The point is to cast the far right out out into the howling wilderness and scoot the moderate right a few steps left such that the political center moves significantly to the left of where it is now and continues to do so for some time.

Hillary crushing Trump in an overwhelming victory would do for progressivism what Reagan did for conservatism. It is something to be yearned for.

I mean seriously - most people don't even know what her positions are. Knowing what they are is a prerequisite of seeing the election as an endorsement of them so your fear is literally impossible. I know many republicans voting for her over trump and they all think she's a secret socialist with the sole redeeming feature of not being trump. It would be awesome if they saw her sweep as an endorsement of what they think she stands for but they won't.

Nobody will.

Sadly. cause she's true blue. .

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Huh David Copperfield is worth 800 million dollars. Holy poo poo. Also, his shows are awesome.

A Bag of Milk
Jul 3, 2007

I don't see any American dream; I see an American nightmare.
McAlister you may convince me to vote for Hillary in Washington State. I'm not going to vote third party because that's stupid and I don't want to encourage any of them to waste time, money, and manpower on hopeless vanity runs, and voting with my conscience is self-centered anyways, as if the most important thing about my vote is how it makes me feel. So I may as well work towards a D popular vote landslide (I still think she'll win something like 50-47).

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

theflyingorc posted:

OR WILL HE???????

okay I laughed myself stupid at this one

McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

A Bag of Milk posted:

McAlister you may convince me to vote for Hillary in Washington State. I'm not going to vote third party because that's stupid and I don't want to encourage any of them to waste time, money, and manpower on hopeless vanity runs, and voting with my conscience is self-centered anyways, as if the most important thing about my vote is how it makes me feel. So I may as well work towards a D popular vote landslide (I still think she'll win something like 50-47).

Thank you!

I know this is a big dream and I am in no way certain it will happen. But I'm also not certain it wont happen either. And that hope is electric.

I mean we already looked at how fricken Utah might go blue. But it's not the only one. Take a look at Texas:

http://www.texasmonthly.com/burka-blog/conservative-case-hillary-clinton/

quote:


All of them, it turned out, had recently heard their wife, or a friend, or a colleague, say that she would under no circumstances vote for Trump. Several of them added that, further to their surprise, these Republican women of Texas had gone a step further, and said they were planning to vote for Clinton.


That right there is how Anne Richards won Texas. White suburban married women chose Richards by a 20 point margin after her opponent was openly dismissive of women in general and Anne in particular in a debate. 4 years later they jumped right back in the republican fold as a respectful Bush junior made sure to politely shake her hand when offered instead of leaving her hanging ( Claytie literally ignored an offer to shake hands with Richards in the debate ).

But that's not all!

http://www.pewhispanic.org/fact-sheets/2016-state-election-fact-sheets/latinos-in-the-2016-election-texas/

quote:

Some 28% of Texas eligible voters are Hispanic, the second largest Hispanic statewide eligible voter share nationally. New Mexico ranks first with 40%.

Hispanics, as we know, are all raping murdering drug runners that trump is going to build a wall against and kick out.

Alternatively they are a fast growing demographic that hates trump so passionately that they are applying for citizenship in record numbers for the sole purpose of voting against him.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/us/trumps-rise-spurs-latino-immigrants-to-naturalize-to-vote-against-him.html

In the most recent poll trump is only up vs Clinton by two point in Texas ..Obama lost to McCain by 12 points there.

http://www.texaslyceum.org/Resources/Documents/TEXAS%20LYCEUM%20POLL/2015%20Texas%20Lyceum%20Poll%20Results.pdf

And we have many more months for him to offend the bulk of the Texas electorate.

Also, the Clinton campaign considers it in play and will expend resources to GOTV there:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/31/politics/hillary-clinton-texas-donald-trump/

Even if you don't like Hillary as much as I do ... you've got to like the idea of being a part of the election that turned Texas blue. ( and Utah, and possibly New Mexico, and they are currently tied in Georgia http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279119-poll-trump-clinton-in-statistical-tie-in-georgia and and ...

It could happen. It probably won't. But it could.

And it would be epic.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
If Trump manages to turn Texas blue about 12 years ahead of schedule than he'll be seen as the embodiment of the most complete failure in modern political history.

Lets do it.

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!
I'll be doing my part, here in the Rio Grande Valley. I'm going to be pretty excited if sheer hatred of Trump drives Hispanic and female turnout enough to get even within a stones throw of republicans in Texas.

That letter my congressman Filemon Vela sent a few days ago is a pretty good summary of how the RGV feels right now.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

SubponticatePoster posted:

Goddamnit, now I really want Hill to do the Welcome gesture (DS2 version) at the beginning of every speech.

:golfclap:

better: Well What Is It from DS1

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Samurai Sanders posted:

It just goes to show that policing being a for-profit enterprise is the default state of things; it takes good government (at least a better government than Oklahoma has) to force it to give up the profit motive.
The police are part of the government. We need to open policing to the free market. When you get arrested, you should have your choice of several arresting police forces, all competing to give you the best deal on how much money they will seize from you, and how luxurious the cruiser that takes you down to the station will be. You could choose your police force using my new mobile app, Troopr...

sudo rm -rf
Aug 2, 2011


$ mv fullcommunism.sh
/america
$ cd /america
$ ./fullcommunism.sh


Gyges posted:

There seems to be a decided lack of interactive electoral maps that let you gently caress around with demographic turnout without having to calculate it out on your own.

The one with the most variables that I cold find is Boston.com's from 2008. In addition to race, it lets you play with gender and religion. I assume FiveThiryEight's Swing-O-Matic uses the same demographic data, but they don't let you see what happens if Trump really pisses off both the Mormons and Women.

2008's What If Electoral Map

Of course whatever you enter is going to spit back a fake newspaper front page that will tell you either Obama or McCain won in your scenario.


Hillary can not unilaterally kill the Iran deal. In the dark future where Trump wins he can't either. We are just one of the 6 countries Iran was negotiating with. A large part of the sanctions which Iran negotiated their way out of with the deal was being blocked from trade with Europe, China, and Russia in addition to the US. If the new President decides they don't like the deal they have to go back and convince China, France, Germany, Russia, and the U.K. to go and reinstate their sanctions because the Americans decided they weren't swinging their dick around sufficiently. It's not going to happen.

The thing that ends the Iran deal is Iran pissing on the terms and triggering the reimposition of sanctions.

There's a decent one on RCP, halfway down this page.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/26/demographics_and_the_2016_election_scenarios.html

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Pulled over by a cop who suspects you of drug trafficking, but don't have a ton of cash in the car? Oklahoma will now gladly seize the contents of the bank accounts associated with your debit cards instead!

I just love that the solution to police corruption and abuse in the US is to legalize it.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Think of what http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/ will look like for trumpeteers. That's why people should be running up the score. I want to see the heartburn they get when the cameras pan pack after Texas is called for Clinton.

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