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LuciferMorningstar posted:IMO the Lion's Roar is a reasonably good assault rifle. Has good feel to me. I always hated it, and I think it's largely because until recently the reload animation completed just sightly before the reload actually was finished and that would continually throw me off. Happily, that's been fixed.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:IMO the Lion's Roar is a reasonably good assault rifle. Has good feel to me. Better late than never I suppose. Maybe the game will go free to play in the future  At least you're not getting irrationally angry about it like folks in the Steam comments.
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-Fixed an issue that blocked players from picking up sentry guns if suppressed sentry guns are equipped as the deployable Well, we're halfway there I guess. Can anyone tell me if this fixes the joat version of the bug as well?
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They flipped the shotgun damage skill's values around so you actually have a reason to ace it now, which is annoying because I'd just moved those points elsewhere in my shotgun build, but a good thing balance-wise.
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Jun 9, 2016 21:27
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The tutorial missions are ok for what they are- quite basic, covering the easily misunderstood stuff. Some nice joke signs, plus some vital plot details: the police contract their map printing from China.
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Jun 9, 2016 21:35
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Crabtree posted:I told them on the forums there were new waves of pubs and new players that had no idea how play this game, and worse learned all the wrong lessons they could from old idiots. With how much the game has changed, it isn't the worst idea in the world just to make an interactive tutorial instead of counting on the safe house that no one apparently visits as the introduction and then to learn anything valuable from JS onwards. But hey, here's a new challenge, no skills and starter weapons without mods on the new heists. Also use the worst perk decks you can think of or ones that have no skills. Complete noob run. The tutorial heists give you a specific set of gear to use and are on the lowest difficulty. There's really absolutely nothing you can do to make them interesting. The stealth one is reasonably helpful, I suppose. It neglects some important mechanics, though, I think. For example, some locks can be shot open faster than they can be picked. Cameras can be destroyed, instead of requiring an ECM to bypass. Of course, guards will path to and alert off of broken cameras. None of that sort of thing gets covered. Is it relevant for newbies? I'm not really sure. The loud heist feels a lot less useful. It also seems to teach at least one bad habit, in that it seems to suggest healing off a Medbag. It also doesn't really explain assault wave mechanics. Bain just magically calls off the assault to trade a hostage when it comes time to do so.
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Jun 9, 2016 21:57
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nobody needs to know that the assault wave ends when you kill a mythical number of cops lol
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Jun 9, 2016 23:18
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I think that's an intermediate strat. The basic strat is just keeping killing until the cops go away.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:32
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Coolguye posted:nobody needs to know that the assault wave ends when you kill a mythical number of cops lol I mean more that you can only trade during assault waves, and that it will often be some amount of time before that happens. Rather than "Oh, someone is in custody. Let's take a hostage so Bain can quickly trade, like in the tutorial."
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Jun 9, 2016 23:32
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Coolguye posted:nobody needs to know that the assault wave ends when you kill a mythical number of cops lol Huh, I always just thought it lasted a specific amount of time.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:38
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juliuspringle posted:Huh, I always just thought it lasted a specific amount of time.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:51
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I believe the assault ends once one of two conditions are met: either you kill X cops, or the assault has lasted Y seconds.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:52
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I mean more that you can only trade during assault waves, and that it will often be some amount of time before that happens. Rather than "Oh, someone is in custody. Let's take a hostage so Bain can quickly trade, like in the tutorial." i'd much rather someone take a hostage quickly than gently caress around and try to wait. bain literally tells you every time you go into custody that he can't trade you until the wave's over so for the guy who went into custody it could not be more clear. for the people who didn't they're either going to understand that it didn't happen during an assault wave or be trained to try to grab a hostage asap, which is exactly what you should do when you're just starting to learn the game. LuciferMorningstar posted:I believe the assault ends once one of two conditions are met: either you kill X cops, or the assault has lasted Y seconds. yeah it's some combination of that but honestly nobody needs to know that crap
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Jun 9, 2016 23:58
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I like that Dallas gets pissy at Bain during these
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BillmasterCozb posted:I like that Dallas gets pissy at Bain during these I think we can all agree that no matter how useless the tutorial levels are at teaching newbies about the game, they're worth playing just to hear Dallas bitching to Bain about how he knows how to cut open a loving chain-link fence. That being said, yeah, they are kinda basic and I was hoping that the "don't use doctor bags until three downs, idiot" thing would be addressed in it, but I suppose nothing's perfect. e: By the way, is anyone else having problems using the BLT hook's auto-updater? Whenever I try to update anything using it, no matter whether it's a forced redownload or the thing I'm actually trying to update (PocoHUD3), it downloads but then hangs up on the "Extracting Archive" step until I hit Alt-F4. I've tried disabling all my mods, waiting for long periods, and I'm still getting nothing.  :
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Jun 10, 2016 03:08
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 Stockholm Syndrome aced is currently given to everyone for free because Overkill programming happened
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http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=13294 Here's a much better suit for Hoxton 
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Jun 10, 2016 05:36
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I actually like the basic loud heist better as it includes something I wanted since the beta, characters talking at the end of a successful heist. "You're a dick for ever doubting us, Bain."
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Crabtree posted:I actually like the basic loud heist better as it includes something I wanted since the beta, characters talking at the end of a successful heist. "You're a dick for ever doubting us, Bain." They already do this. When you complete a heist your character says a line. Some of them get cut off by the switch to the XP screen and I'm sure desync exacerbates the issue. That might be why you don't notice them.
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Jun 10, 2016 09:02
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TinKelp posted:They already do this. When you complete a heist your character says a line. Some of them get cut off by the switch to the XP screen and I'm sure desync exacerbates the issue. That might be why you don't notice them. Well not just when you hit the escape, I mean Dallas talks in the XP Screen poo poo talking Bain and telling him he'll let his bullshit slide if he starts giving him some real jobs with good payouts.
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Jun 10, 2016 09:05
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Sale when. I want to catch up on DLC- three packs behind- but even with a jorb I don't feel like shelling out $19 on DLC right now.
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Jun 10, 2016 09:11
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Drewjitsu posted:I think that's an intermediate strat. The basic strat is just keeping killing until the cops go away. That strategy is just the essence of all warfare, really.
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Lemon-Lime posted:That strategy is just the essence of all warfare, really. "The surest path to attain domination over one's foes is to click the police until no police remain to click" - Sun Tzu, The Art of Cop Clicking
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Jun 10, 2016 09:31
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I just bought The Judge and I'm in love. By the way, some people were talking about using silencers in non-stealth builds. What's the deal with that? I got the impression the silenced skill tree mostly rewarded you for having good detection.
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Krazyface posted:I just bought The Judge and I'm in love. No. The two skills in the middle and in the left give really nice stat bonuses to silenced weapons. The BTB suppressor also provides good stat bonuses. As a result, you can put together some really powerful weapons.
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Krazyface posted:I just bought The Judge and I'm in love. Specialized Killing buffs damage for having a silencer on a gun by 15% for basic and acing it for a total of 30%. And when certain guns, like say Shotgun, have skills that multiply damage (OVERKILL basic) or other skills give raw crit damage multipliers, the silencers just add more DP to your gun. widespread posted:Sale when. I want to catch up on DLC- three packs behind- but even with a jorb I don't feel like shelling out $19 on DLC right now. When the summer sale hits you'll be able to grab all you want. It's just waiting on valve time at this point.
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Crabtree posted:I actually like the basic loud heist better as it includes something I wanted since the beta, characters talking at the end of a successful heist. "You're a dick for ever doubting us, Bain." From what I've seen of Payday 1, there used to be a lot more back & forth between Bain and the crew. Wish that had carried over, but I think for awhile they were really dedicated to the "evil mastermind" version of Bain that the web series was pushing.
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Geight posted:From what I've seen of Payday 1, there used to be a lot more back & forth between Bain and the crew. Wish that had carried over, but I think for awhile they were really dedicated to the "evil mastermind" version of Bain that the web series was pushing. I think as the game got sillier, that made less and less sense. "Yes, steal those nukes, stuff them into a goat, then drop them by parachute right into an enormous christmas present filled with cocaine. Exactly as planned."
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The tutorials not teaching people what gives this game the skill ceiling it has is a-ok.
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the thread posted:DLC advice Geight posted:From what I've seen of Payday 1, there used to be a lot more back & forth between Bain and the crew. Wish that had carried over, but I think for awhile they were really dedicated to the "evil mastermind" version of Bain that the web series was pushing. Magnetic North posted:I think as the game got sillier, that made less and less sense.
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Magnetic North posted:I think as the game got sillier, that made less and less sense. PD1 was also strictly the 4 original Payday gang - whereas we're up to like a dozen people now, so back-and-forths with Bain that felt good would require a shitload more voice work.
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TopHatGenius posted:"Fixed an issue where the assault phase would not get disabled if captain winters would be killed before he got fully assembled on the level" Yeah, they've "fixed" this dozens of times now...
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Yeah, they've "fixed" this dozens of times now... Just like the "cops firing at a spot where a Jokered cop died".
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Jun 10, 2016 16:56
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Yeah, they've "fixed" this dozens of times now... 3 times, and they were different forms of the bug.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:57
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Yeah, they've "fixed" this dozens of times now... I will believe this is actually fixed when I RPG him before he gets into position without glitching him/the assault.
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Jun 10, 2016 17:01
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Do armor refresh effects also shorten the regeneration interval on Anarchist? Or are they useless if you're using that deck?
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Zigmidge posted:The tutorials not teaching people what gives this game the skill ceiling it has is a-ok. What does this even mean?
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chairface posted:I will believe this is actually fixed when I RPG him before he gets into position without glitching him/the assault. It's fixed now. You can kill his entire entourage but Winters does not retreat until he gets into position to be shot. There are no more infinite assaults but shooting at him early appears to be a waste of ammo.
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UnknownMercenary posted:It's fixed now. You can kill his entire entourage but Winters does not retreat until he gets into position to be shot. There are no more infinite assaults but shooting at him early appears to be a waste of ammo. How's it a waste of ammo? Maybe I'm misunderstanding but it reads like this to me: kill winters' goons early Winters arrives on station, Winters immediately retreats because too many of his buddies are dead what am I missing
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Psion posted:How's it a waste of ammo? Maybe I'm misunderstanding but it reads like this to me: Does winters retreat when a percentage of his coterie is dead? I though he only retreated when you beat him (and only him) up enough.
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