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Palisader posted:no, though occasionally, when he's refusing to fall back asleep after a 2 am feeding, I'll tell him "come on little man, I'm so tired" Well, that made me burst out laughing and choke on my drink. I feel grief.
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Justin Tyme posted:Why do you guys bother even reading that subreddit, it's clear nobody there has any idea what they are talking about and have no influence whatsoever. It might as well be a big dumb act. That's what makes it fun EDIT: I'll pay the catte tax 
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Jun 11, 2016 23:14
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Why did I log on to 800+ plus did CIG rob more art or did star citizen come out!? I'm leaning towards stolen art to be honest Is star citizen out?
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Jun 11, 2016 23:16
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MeLKoR posted:I think this is a pretty accurate depiction of Star Citizen's development cycle.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:17
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Lord Kinbote posted:Why did I log on to 800+ plus did CIG rob more art or did star citizen come out!? I'm leaning towards stolen art to be honest New TOS.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:17
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ManofManyAliases posted:I - for one - think that the new ToS is pretty solid. It really shouldn't affect most people. Nice discussions so far - pretty interesting. lmao rekt
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Jun 11, 2016 23:18
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I'm looking to resume chargeback proceedings and, as part of that, want to request a refund. However, I don't want to go to RSI lest I trigger the new TOS. Anyone have an email link to customer service? Otherwise, I'm going to email the card company and try to explain these ToS. Also, gently caress CIG and al the management who work there, especially the legal team.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:18
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Synchronized posted:Did you cash out after you were banned for "corporate espionage", or is your account still active? I remember in the email log you were mentioning some various pledges to be credited to your account. Account is still active.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:19
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EightAce posted:Has moma been on trying to defend the new CIG tos that says ' you can all get hosed we have your money ' ? Yes.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:20
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Sperglord posted:I'm looking to resume chargeback proceedings and, as part of that, want to request a refund. However, I don't want to go to RSI lest I trigger the new TOS. Anyone have an email link to customer service? Well, you could give support@cloudimperiumgames.com a shot, though it may be phased out. Do you have a zendesk account with them?
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Jun 11, 2016 23:22
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Could a mod please rename MoMA to Toast. hint hint ^^^^
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Sperglord posted:I'm looking to resume chargeback proceedings and, as part of that, want to request a refund. However, I don't want to go to RSI lest I trigger the new TOS. Anyone have an email link to customer service? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/contact-us
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Jun 11, 2016 23:22
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MeLKoR posted:There goes the Sandi theory. Or maybe that's what She wants us to think... If you were on Discord when we were discussing this, you'd know it was never a theory. It was already confirmed as an internal account. On Friday, I posted that we were investigating Shillizen accounts and that I was going to out all of them and write a blog similar to the INN one in which I outed the owner. Next thing you know, ABH, the most obvious shill (it's a CIG account btw), gets a probation to throw us off. https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/741048487765282818
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He doesn't want to go to the RSI site. Though really, I think it's fine. The new TOS shouldn't magically trigger unless you play the game/make a purchase/hit accept on some active prompt.
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DogonCrook posted:Be careful filling out the form or viewing it you'll agree to California's terms of service and will no longer be a sovereign citizen. I have a cert from moma's paralegal studies emporium i know these things. So, when I visited my mom there a few years back, I agreed to their ToS? And, given Hollywood is in California, every time I watch a domestic movie I agree again?
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Eldragon posted:So tell me how I'm wrong: now with the new TOS you have to accept, if you want a refund, all you have to do is decline the new TOS. And email cig citing the new TOS as the reason. curious about this myself
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MeLKoR posted:
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Synchronized posted:He doesn't want to go to the RSI site. Though really, I think it's fine. The new TOS shouldn't magically trigger unless you play the game/make a purchase/hit accept on some active prompt. That page is wide open to the public, you don't have to sign in, and it doesn't try to make you sign the ToS. Just open an incognito browser, paste it in there, and blast away. Edit: You absolutely have to physically click accept on any ToS for it to be valid. It doesn't display the ToS, though I didn't try submitting anything.
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MeLKoR posted:
So that's 17 redditors checking out this thread uh?
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Beet Wagon posted:It's really tough trying to decide whether to respond to this with a picture of a fart, a picture of kayak, or a picture of legman. A picture of a legman fart being lit on fire while kayak watches from a safe distance in horror.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:34
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MeLKoR posted:I think this is a pretty accurate depiction of Star Citizen's development cycle. Been there, done that.
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I also love that I live in a world where Redditors can claim we are all Derek's alts, yet he has to wait to have us tell him what to say next. Such glorious, wondrous distortions of logic. Amazing time to be alive.
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MeLKoR posted:
I so hope they try and connect my account to its CIG counterpart, because there are others using this nickname there, and i'm neither of them (having received my refund and left long time ago). CIG labelling and molesting completely innocent and unrelated people just because of their own pettiness and shortsightedness would be hilarious.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Nope - and I won't. Having fun outside at the moment, but I'll be on 2.4 live later for some spaceship fun Enjoying the zoo? See any whales?
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Jun 11, 2016 23:40
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I got to play a bit more, it's bad. It's worse in every way I love it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Jw7Kx80f4
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Streetroller posted:I've never paid much attention to Derek, he's too abrasive for me. My "descent" originally began when Chris wrote that awful letter to Escapist.. This is what we've been shouting since the beginning. Derek is a red herring hoisted by Chris, only CIG can make SC fail and they are doing an outstanding job of it.
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Toops posted:That page is wide open to the public, you don't have to sign in, and it doesn't try to make you sign the ToS. I actually did send a test message, since I don't have any accounts to lose, and you can totally hit send message and it doesn't pop up the TOS. Of course I didn't give it a valid email, so I have no idea if hitting send actually does anything either.
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Holy poo poo, they really DID make it worse somehow. I expect 2.5 will never actually load an instance and 2.6 will somehow cause your pets to get rabies.
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peter gabriel posted:I got to play a bit more, it's bad. That was worth pausing my 17 hour Doom download (that I got a week late due to a vendor fuckup) for. Thanks.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:56
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Toops posted:That page is wide open to the public, you don't have to sign in, and it doesn't try to make you sign the ToS. I can try that, though I don't want to get into a ToS he said /she said argument over the ToS application. Moma added the terms that ToS applies upon using RSI services, which may include the customer service contact form. Perhaps I can go straight to the bank and say that the Catch-22 ToS is a sign CIG is a scam.
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skaboomizzy posted:Holy poo poo, they really DID make it worse somehow. I expect 2.5 will never actually load an instance and 2.6 will somehow cause your pets to get rabies. 2.7 will change all your documents to Lesnick home porn. Sperglord posted:I can try that, though I don't want to get into a ToS he said /she said argument over the ToS application. Moma added the terms that ToS applies upon using RSI services, which may include the customer service contact form. Also, I love the fact (as I have visited the forums thanks to the thread) that technically I have a contractual relationship with CIG/RSI/WTF despite the fact I have never done business with them. Samizdata fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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Meanwhile at the Frontier forums, a deep-cover MoMA-model operative has woken up from cryogenic sleep to grace them with his opinions about the TOSquote:I couldn't care less about the ToS as long as SQ42 and SC are delivered with at least half of the features and content promised. And they seem to be coming along nicely. It should be obvious by now that if you buy a PLEDGE, you're not really eligible for refunds by definition alone. quote:They're making progress on all fronts. quote:I made an investment, as everyone who pledged knowingly did if they read any of the titles on the pages. It's really not that different from any other game you buy. You buy it and play it, you don't get to refund it. Period. quote:Same thing as pledging. No need to argue semantics when you understand precisely what I mean. No. You're not. You're literally pledging your money. Thus it's an investment more than anything, and you're not eligible for refund. When they're dealing with 1+ million people who pledge this is the best they could do it in the event that the project failed. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Squadron-42-Standalone-Pledge quote:I don't know. Development is an iterative process and unexpected obstacles sometimes appear. They did not expect procedural planets to become available until after release yet here it is. Much like No Man's Sky and Engineers got delayed by 2-3 months one must also concede that this may happen to SQ42 as well. It's just the nature of game development. My guess would be Q4 2016 or Q1 2017. I have tried it out but I don't spend too much time on the alpha:s since I know they are just test beds for fixing bugs and showcasing pledge ships before they start opening up the star systems. Except that's an extremely unlikely scenario and more of a slippery slope fallacy. The Idris is practically done as well so try something else. quote:Money doesn't translate directly into a better game. Just ask Frontier with their $100+ million market cap quote:The first 1-2 years of SC can barely be considered effective development with just a skeleton dev team. And again. Inf Battlescape is ships only and has very simple flight mechanics. So they're not comparable. No need to bring it up. I take it then you aren't too familiar with Steam early access titles that are often just as broken. Line of Defense being a hilarious example... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7n29gEV18w Etc, etc, somehow he (Jon93) just became a really prolific poster.
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Anyway, when you have extremely complex physics grids to deal with, yes, you can expect a lot more bugs to deal with, especially in the alpha-version of the game. Why is this even controversial when it's true for most alphas?
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I couldn't care less about the ToS as long as SQ42 and SC are delivered with at least half of the features and content promised. And if they aren't, well then I start caring about the ToS which tells me to go gently caress myself they can deliver whatever they want.
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peter gabriel posted:Yeah the game is straight up broken now, it's totally hosed ha ha You should consider doing SC streaming, I'd bet you'd be the #1 streamer after one week.
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peter gabriel posted:I got to play a bit more, it's bad.
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Streetroller posted:I think Derek is definitely motivated by hatred, or just likes watching the world burn. I imagine him using a magnifying glass to light up ant hills and laughing maniacally when he's not online. Not to speak for him but I believe Derek was contacted by some developers who had concerns about how the staff were treated, how the money was being spent and the possibility of the game coming out as pitched. The way I remember it he tried to contact Chris Roberts a couple of different ways, got nothing then wrote a blog to make his opinion clear and one of the first reveals he made was that Star Marine was cancelled (nobody believed him on that for the 6 months until Chris Roberts was forced to bitterly admit it). For that he had his money forcibly refunded and had some "game developer" who's previously claim to fame was being a hardcore wing commander nut and used to work in school trash talk him. Plus lets not forget a rabid community of nutters were given a green light to go after him both personally and professionally That, I think, understandably pissed him off and given what's happened since and how he seems to have been proved right about pretty much everything (he seems to have/had source/s feeding him internal gossip so I personally don't expect him to be right about everything) I can well imagine he's going to fully enjoy the end times. Let's not forget CIG made this pledge and CIG updated the TOS yesterday, in which they force everyone who visits the forums or patches the janky pile of poo poo they call a "game" to agree to, that basically says they can do whatever they like and you'll loving like it. Derek Smart got a lot of people refunds and if he goes absolutely nuts at times I think he gets a pass just for having the guts to stand up in the first place. Shitizens are the insane guys making threats and tweeting Derek hundreds of times after he's blocked them on twitter, spewing bile on r/derek smart, Citizens are the normal backers still foolishly expecting some sort of reasonable game out of this mess. AP fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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As long as everything goes to plan, and it looks like it is, why would I worry about buying insurance?
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Ghostlight posted:You are in for some top notch revival of 90s gaming. I know. I watched a good few videos and read some reviews (and didn't pledge to preorder) before I decided to spend my hard earned cash. I did, however, blow an extra dollar on the multiplayer DLC flash. Does that make me a Shitizen-alike?
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