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So does anyone think anything is actually going to come from this? I'm fairly confident nothing will happen, though perhaps in a couple years IF SCOTUS hears an appeal on the the recent decision on concealed carry
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Boon posted:So does anyone think anything is actually going to come from this? I'm fairly confident nothing will happen, though perhaps in a couple years IF SCOTUS hears an appeal on the the recent decision on concealed carry Nietzsche said that the cruelest evil to fly out of Pandora's box was Hope.
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Boon posted:So does anyone think anything is actually going to come from this? I'm fairly confident nothing will happen, though perhaps in a couple years IF SCOTUS hears an appeal on the the recent decision on concealed carry Nothing is going to come from it, except for some short term news cycle issues. Though I do agree with Greg Sargent that this was a test of leadership Trump failed miserably.
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Boon posted:So does anyone think anything is actually going to come from this? I'm fairly confident nothing will happen, though perhaps in a couple years IF SCOTUS hears an appeal on the the recent decision on concealed carry I'm not trying to be snarky but, it involved a crazy muslim and LGBT victims; so absolutely nothing is going to happen. edit: also, it's too soon to talk about it, the wounds are too fresh for your attempts at political grandstanding. and by next week, it will be too late to talk about it. radical meme fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Boon posted:So does anyone think anything is actually going to come from this? I'm fairly confident nothing will happen, though perhaps in a couple years IF SCOTUS hears an appeal on the the recent decision on concealed carry Nope, not a drat thing. Didn't happen after Sandy Hook, won't happen now. Especially not when the victims were gay, Latino people at a nightclub.
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Boon posted:So does anyone think anything is actually going to come from this? I'm fairly confident nothing will happen, though perhaps in a couple years IF SCOTUS hears an appeal on the the recent decision on concealed carry Daily Depressing Reminder that a school full of small children was shot to pieces and conservatives, rather than facing the evils of their favorite hobby, decided to either declare it as a gun-control hoax or advocate for arming teachers. That was the point of no return. We will continue to devolve into the loving wild west with these assholes in office. Period.
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Well then.quote:“I don’t forgive him as a father, and I’m completely against what he did,” [Mateen's father] said. “It’s against humanity and innocent people.”
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"I'm completely against what he did, but only because it was my son who did it"
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Earlier in the thread someone asked "why doesn't Obama just say the magic words?" and this right here is why. Even if you relent and do what they want, the concession is never acknowledged as a good thing - the Right just uses it to attack you more while also moving on to the next bullshit thing. Obama is right to not give in to these fucks.
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LeeMajors posted:Daily Depressing Reminder that a school full of small children was shot to pieces and conservatives, rather than facing the evils of their favorite hobby, decided to either declare it as a gun-control hoax or advocate for arming teachers. Agreed. At some point these will have happened enough that even the detractors will be forced to act on our broken gun culture. Until then we'll continue to ignore the conversation (politicizing an event) offer useless gestures (hopes and prayers) and await a major shift on the issue. Such is the nature of our system and it's incremental progress Or so I cynically believe 
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Comey is giving a briefing right now. https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/742393792523829248 Says the "killer was radicalized through the internet". Lol the 2013 FBI investigation was triggered when he told coworkers he was connected to both Al Qaeda and Hezbollah
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Boon posted:Agreed. Pretty sure it's just going to become normal to the point where it's not a big deal. People die every day to violence and nobody cares. This is just the evolution of that.
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Schnorkles posted:I'll just quickly repost what I said in YCS. Beck's position here is completely consistent with the Mormon church right now. They're all about the "everyone deserves to be treated with love and respect," but remain in the "lol no, thats a sin" re: gay marraige and overt homosexuality. Yeah, it's way more "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" than a change of heart. Samurai Sanders posted:The way I see it, it's his employer that should have caught this the most. He's an adult and away from his parents so I don't blame them, it's his wife's call about how to deal with his abuse of her, the FBI did their job like they should have; it's not like they can follow someone around just for being an angry jerk unless they can prove their connection to known terrorists. But a security company that gives him a gun and the responsibility to use it should have done better. To a group of insane mercenaries who don't give a poo poo about doing a decent job he was probably the perfect employee. Crazy has a hard time judging crazy. zoux posted:https://twitter.com/NickBaumann/status/742352136013484032 There is a good chance he was on the no-fly list but there is a law in FL that people on the no-fly list should still be able to own guns so 
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LeeMajors posted:Daily Depressing Reminder that a school full of small children was shot to pieces and conservatives, rather than facing the evils of their favorite hobby, decided to either declare it as a gun-control hoax or advocate for arming teachers. To be fair, some conservatives argued in favor of training schoolchildren to rush the shooter in hopes that their tiny bodies would eventually overwhelm them or something. Nothing is ever going to change, and "some crazy hateful piece of poo poo murders a bunch of innocents by shooting them" is like the least effective form of terrorism since we're so loving used to it by now.
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zoux posted:Lol the 2013 FBI investigation was triggered when he told coworkers he was connected to both Al Qaeda and Hezbollah  Why didn't his loving company FIRE HIM!
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zoux posted:Comey is giving a briefing right now. Know what, I'm sorry but, this mother fucker's father should be on a plane right now to Gitmo with a bunch of CIA spooks crawling up his rear end with a magnifying glass and a huge marine explaining to him that this will be the last day he ever sees sunlight if he doesn't spill his guts and tell them everything he loving knows about his son and everyone his son ever had dealings with. This is some hosed up poo poo and his father appears to be just as responsible as he is for what happened. radical meme fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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CommieGIR posted:
You should probably do some reading about G4S. They are pretty much domestic Blackwater.
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radical meme posted:Know what, I'm sorry but, this mother fucker's father should be on a plane right now to Gitmo with a bunch of CIA spooks crawling up his rear end with a magnifying glass and a huge marine explaining to him that this will be the last day ever sees sunlight if he doesn't spill his guts and tell them everything he loving knows about his son and everyone his son ever had dealings with. This is some hosed up poo poo and his father appears to be just as responsible as he is for what happened. Listening to the Comey briefing, this dude was a guy who claimed to be affilitated with every terrorist group he ever heard of, including opposing groups and even Sunni and Shia groups simultaneously. He's the my uncle works at Nintendo of terrorism and there's nothing to be learned from this guy.
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Internet Webguy posted:They are pretty much domestic Blackwater. Yeah I saw. Still surprised one of his coworkers didn't just shoot him after saying that.
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radical meme posted:Know what, I'm sorry but, this mother fucker's father should be on a plane right now to Gitmo with a bunch of CIA spooks crawling up his rear end with a magnifying glass and a huge marine explaining to him that this will be the last day he ever sees sunlight if he doesn't spill his guts and tell them everything he loving knows about his son and everyone his son ever had dealings with. This is some hosed up poo poo and his father appears to be just as responsible as he is for what happened. agreed, we should also find all his cousins + extended family and sentence them to the rice fields for a generation
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CommieGIR posted:
The FBI investigated him and figured out he was full of poo poo.
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zoux posted:Listening to the Comey briefing, this dude was a guy who claimed to be affilitated with every terrorist group he ever heard of, including opposing groups and even Sunni and Shia groups simultaneously. He's the my uncle works at Nintendo of terrorism and there's nothing to be learned from this guy. My Canadian Terror-Cell Contact, you've never met him 
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The second time the FBI looked into him, it's because they were talking to another terrorism suspect, they asked him if he knew anyone else that was radicalized and he said "Well, there was this one guy but he got married and had a kid and got a job so I don't think he ended up being radicalized" and that was that.
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FairGame posted:To be fair, some conservatives argued in favor of training schoolchildren to rush the shooter in hopes that their tiny bodies would eventually overwhelm them or something. Jesus loving Christ, I had forgotten that little post-Sandy Hook horror. What horrible loving people. E: I think you posted the wrong article, but here's what I remember seeing http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/08/fox-news-tells-young-children-to-run-at-active/207321 LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:agreed, we should also find all his cousins + extended family and sentence them to the rice fields for a generation His dad has youtube videos claiming allegiance to the Taliban and the last I checked, we were still at war, I mean in an informal military conflict, with the Taliban. I got no problem with loving up his father's life for raising a son that killed 50 innocent people.
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Boon posted:Agreed. I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik.
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LeJackal posted:I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik. Hey, if you could just kindly gently caress off forever, that'd be great.
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LeJackal posted:I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik. goddamn you're awful and stupid
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LeJackal posted:I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik. Shouldn't you be calling this latest attack a hoax you piece of poo poo?
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LeJackal posted:I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik.  Get back in your hole.
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LeJackal posted:I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik. If you don't think gun culture is broken then you have to take into account that the same people argue that it isn't broken are usually the same people who don't believe in universal healthcare. And the reason that doesn't make sense is because those people who are in favor of calling the ownership of a deadly weapon created by man a right given by God, but the basic fundamental thing you need to be alive (health) is not.
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FairGame posted:To be fair, some conservatives argued in favor of training schoolchildren to rush the shooter in hopes that their tiny bodies would eventually overwhelm them or something. Those gay folks should have used their AIDS poison blood to stop this shooter.
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TBeats posted:If you don't think gun culture is broken then you have to take into account that the same people argue that it isn't broken are usually the same people who don't believe in universal healthcare. Our general culture is the US is broken, toxic with greed and capitalism. Guns make a convenient scapegoat that allow you to ignore the underlying issues that drive violence. Universal healthcare should be free to all, by the way. Abolish the private insurance industry. TBeats posted:And the reason that doesn't make sense is because those people who are in favor of calling the ownership of a deadly weapon created by man a right given by God, but the basic fundamental thing you need to be alive (health) is not. I, for one, disagree.
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LeJackal posted:Our general culture is the US is broken, toxic with greed and capitalism. Guns make a convenient scapegoat that allow you to ignore the underlying issues that drive violence. This whole post has to be a hoax.
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LeJackal posted:Our general culture is the US is broken, toxic with greed and capitalism. Guns make a convenient scapegoat that allow you to ignore the underlying issues that drive violence. False flag spotted. Why won't Trump do something about this?
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LeJackal posted:Our general culture is the US is broken, toxic with greed and capitalism. Guns make a convenient scapegoat that allow you to ignore the underlying issues that drive violence. Yea guys, the tool that criminals and murderers use that exemplifies the underlying issues of violence is just a convenient scapegoat. I mean, gosh, why would we want to make it harder for people who prefer to use this tool of violence to beget violence?
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I'm glad that I'm not into guns because hearing about fifty people getting slaughtered and going "I've got to defend my guns, they need me" seems like a real hosed up existence I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy
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LeJackal posted:I guess it was the broken gun culture of France we have to blame for the Bataclan, or the broken gun culture of Norway for Brevik. Breivik idolized American gun culture and the American gangster lifestyle even before getting involved with white nationalists online, who were (surprise!) largely Americans. You're not making the point you thought you were, and should probably become familiar with an event before using it to concern-troll about your precious toys. I recommend One Of Us by Seierstad if you actually care to learn something from all this. Or you can ignore this. I wonder which.
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A Winner is Jew posted:This whole post has to be a hoax. Oh no, it turns out that real people are more complex than the strawmen that you dream up. How terrible.
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