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Andarel posted:Those are both reasonable nerfs, wonder how the competitive meta will respond. A reasonable nerf would be removing Widowmaker from the game actually
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Andarel posted:Those are both reasonable nerfs, wonder how the competitive meta will respond. the bleeding-edge twitch types will still be able to destroy with widowmaker, but it will be toned back a bit and the average game with average-tier scrubs like me will have less of a pervasive instance of leveling up into a bracket where you will get thrashed by sniping.
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Even though I think that Widow needs to be hit harder than that (increase her charge time and decrease her health), the absolutely necessary can't 1-or-2-tap half the characters in the game at full health game change is great, and I admire that they're making small changes instead of just wildly swinging the pendulum.
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Zenyatta mains everywhere weeping in silent joy now cut her health to 150 and take away her smg, tia
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Andarel posted:Those are both reasonable nerfs, wonder how the competitive meta will respond. Blizzard's balance changes are usually very singular and simple, which for the most part end up being more rational than the "Widow killed me three times last game, nerf her into the ground" goon game design approach.
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Soothing Vapors posted:Zenyatta mains everywhere weeping in silent joy  Decent changes though.
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ColHannibal posted:So apparently 6 genjis verses 6 Lucios on the Spartan pit level of ilios will never conclude. I believe Overtime eventually times out and the match ends. The limit is about 20-22 minutes. That's a lot of xp, but I assume it went to the 3rd map.
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Those patch notes are almost certainly fake
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lots of widowmaker hate itt. les sans-culottes are revolting
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It still seems like McCree will do enough damage to flash-fan-roll-fan tanks to death. But better I guess. Taking the 25 flashbang damage and armor into account, a single flash-fan will leave a Winston at 200 HP, which is enough for him to leap away. A Rein would have 210, enough for a charge. D.Va will have 220 left. I heard that the stun only lasts for 4 of the 6 FTH shots, so a flash-and-fanned Zarya will have 195 HP left when the stun wears off, enough time to shield herself and get energy from the last two shots, but even if she doesn't, she's got 105 HP left at the end. That's better than it was before, certainly. McCree can also still counter Genji because flash-fan where only 4 bullets hit will do 205 damage, so he won't be able to escape, like he could if the fan damage was any lower. I guess there's not much else which can be done without removing the reload from roll or adding a cooldown to FTH. Kamikaze Raider posted:Now people are bitching about people leaving matches after they're over? Jesus christ this thread sucks. Well I find that annoying because so many times I only get to play half the map (either the offense or defense side) because usually the losing side leaves after the first round and the game drops because of a lack of players. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:Zenyatta mains everywhere weeping in silent joy Weeping with joy is not very Zenyatta but I am definitely experiencing increased levels of harmony and oneness with the iris because of these changes.
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Broseph Brostar posted:Those patch notes are almost certainly fake hm, yes, blizzard is posting fake notes.
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Jun 14, 2016 17:01
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i invited every pub in my first solo queue last night to a group and we rolled as a six stack for like an hour. a little encouragement on the mic goes a long way
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Supercar Gautier posted:It's finally safe for the good zen orb boy to step outside again. She'll just have to wait .3 seconds for the follow up shot to kill you now 
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kojei posted:hm, yes, blizzard is posting fake notes. Oh the misspellings and weird grammar are the result of google translate
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Bolow posted:She'll just have to wait .3 seconds for the follow up shot to kill you now I thought that change was for McCree, or is that how fast her animation finishes as well?
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DrSeRRoD posted:I thought that change was for McCree, or is that how fast her animation finishes as well? It takes 1 second to fully charge a Widowmaker shot so she can pop off a 30%ish charge very quickly to knock the last 30hp off
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It's still an opportunity for Zenyatta to dip behind cover and regen shields, which I will take over automatic instant death.
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Ah, got it. Yea, definitely nice to be able to peek out of cover and quickly jump right back in after taking that huge gasp for air (which can be unsettling to hear sometimes). I'd still like them to look at his mobility a bit, but this is a nice little boost for peeking out to toss out an orb.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxdmvNEz7e0 So can anyone test out if Reaper can still teleport through the starting doors?
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are those patch notes just for the pc? I remember reading that will be balancing the pc and console separately.
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Funny how they adjusted Widowmaker is a few different ways but it's barely going to affect the meta that most people will see. The only counter to a good Widow is still another better Widow, and Winston and D.Va are still going to be shredded when attempting to stop those good Widows. Zenyatta will still be horrible and unfun when the enemy has a widowmaker, its just now you are constantly waiting in cover for your shield to come back instead of waiting for your respawn timer.
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Broseph Brostar posted:Zenyatta will still be horrible and unfun when the enemy has a widowmaker, its just now you are constantly waiting in cover for your shield to come back instead of waiting for your respawn timer. waiting in cover and being alive, potentially healing, charging ult, and still being on the battlefield is infinitely better than being dead zenyatta is going to be cool and good like he was meant to be
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Broseph Brostar posted:Funny how they adjusted Widowmaker is a few different ways but it's barely going to affect the meta that most people will see. The only counter to a good Widow is still another better Widow, and Winston and D.Va are still going to be shredded when attempting to stop those good Widows. The nerf to FTH means that Winston is now much safer getting into the backlines than he was before. The longer charge time and lower damage for bodyshots also means that a good Pharah can survive long enough to dislodge Widowmaker from her position, if not outright kill her. Some more adjustments might be needed, but I think they're a good start.
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Broseph Brostar posted:Funny how they adjusted Widowmaker is a few different ways but it's barely going to affect the meta that most people will see. The only counter to a good Widow is still another better Widow, and Winston and D.Va are still going to be shredded when attempting to stop those good Widows. How about we see how the changes actually affect the meta before you get to the whole "sky is falling" doomsaying again?
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Broseph Brostar posted:Funny how they adjusted Widowmaker is a few different ways but it's barely going to affect the meta that most people will see. The only counter to a good Widow is still another better Widow, and Winston and D.Va are still going to be shredded when attempting to stop those good Widows. I'm really curious why you think a good Winston would die directly fighting a good Widowmaker. Maybe you haven't played him enough, because he will win that fight 99% of the time if you're any good. ape boy is very powerful and I love him
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Lemonpieman posted:I'm really curious why you think a good Winston would die directly fighting a good Widowmaker. Maybe you haven't played him enough, because he will win that fight 99% of the time if you're any good. ape boy is very powerful and I love him Yell HARAMBE every time you jump, you'll play even better.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:How about we see how the changes actually affect the meta before you get to the whole "sky is falling" doomsaying again? That's not how things work 'round here.
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zooted heh posted:are those patch notes just for the pc? I remember reading that will be balancing the pc and console separately. AFAIK it is just PC. Good patch, McCree should still be deadly if he blows his cool downs but at least now he has to aim more. And making Widow more like TF2'S sniper means that she can't just machine gun bodyshots anymore
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im glad the patch notes told mei players that they were stupid in setting up start of the match ice walls (thanks for the mercy ult charge mei)
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Zoness posted:im glad the patch notes told mei players that they were stupid in setting up start of the match ice walls (thanks for the mercy ult charge mei) I just hope the fix doesn't stop Symmetra from charging up her beam on an ice wall too.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Well I find that annoying because so many times I only get to play half the map (either the offense or defense side) because usually the losing side leaves after the first round and the game drops because of a lack of players. Nah it's totally cool when half the team quits and you get to spend 2 minutes searching for a new game because people can't wait 30 seconds for the next round to begin. They're not being selfish at all.
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Ddraig posted:wait 30 seconds Your whole day, GONE!!
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Ddraig posted:Nah it's totally cool when half the team quits and you get to spend 2 minutes searching for a new game because people can't wait 30 seconds for the next round to begin. you're being selfish for asking people to play a game they don't want to play
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Ddraig posted:Nah it's totally cool when half the team quits and you get to spend 2 minutes searching for a new game because people can't wait 30 seconds for the next round to begin. Yes, they are being selfish, over something so unbelievably trivial that no one who's not brain damaged would actually care. Stop being brain damaged.
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Macaluso posted:Your whole day, GONE!! It would be nice if I only had to wait 30 seconds, but alas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq1mIMHyMd0 Those 2 minutes of menus are a really nice change from playing the game of Overwatch, a game which I happen to enjoy. I sure hope those people who left found a nice game where there hopes and dreams were finally satisfied.
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Ddraig posted:It would be nice if I only had to wait 30 seconds, but alas Link your tumblr account.
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Supercar Gautier posted:It's finally safe for the good zen orb boy to step outside again. This is seriously one of the biggest buffs to Zen they could have made. Healing with him will still be annoying as hell though.
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Lemonpieman posted:I'm really curious why you think a good Winston would die directly fighting a good Widowmaker. Maybe you haven't played him enough, because he will win that fight 99% of the time if you're any good. ape boy is very powerful and I love him Winston is my top played, I know exactly what I'm talking about when I say Winston isn't an adequate counter against a good Widow. A good Widow can headshot you the moment you're in LoS and then pepper you down with her smg. A good Widow will be sniping in a spot where its easy to drop down and rejoin her team. To counter either of those strategies a good Winston can give up and play a different hero, because even with perfect positioning there's nothing special a Winston can do once he's in.
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