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I was pretty well hoping for matchlocks and stuff too after the first demo, so that makes me happy.
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Jun 14, 2016 23:02
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I really want this game to come out
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Jun 14, 2016 23:22
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Policenaut posted:New E3 trailer, another demo coming in August. This looks pretty sweet. "Life and Death form a circle" They definitely understand the souls philosophy and aren't afraid to advertise it. lets hang out posted:I really want this game to come out Same. The alpha was so much fun and I miss it. At least let me play that some more! But I guess we'd burn out on it and get bored pretty fast.
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Jun 14, 2016 23:40
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Demo starts on August 23rd.
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Jul 19, 2016 18:51
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The hype cannot be contained. Based on their interviews post the first demo it sounded like they appreciated the feedback that the game was too hard but felt it very important to keep it difficult despite criticism. I'm pumped for demo number 2.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:28
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Ni-Oh yeah! *crashes through wall*
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Jul 19, 2016 21:39
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I wish this was sooner. I had a blast with the last demo. So we're going to be teaming up with Hattori Hanzo? Wish it was the Kill Bill version, that dude was funny 
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Jul 20, 2016 16:23
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They really should have gotten Sonny Chiba to voice Hattori Hanzo. Demo can't come soon enough. Had a blast with the first one.
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Jul 20, 2016 18:14
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Ginchiyo Tachibana gets my hell yeah
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Jul 20, 2016 18:28
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Nioh is at Gamescom 2016! Here's their press release and a new trailer, looks like we're going to mess up some spider cave this time around.quote:Following the overwhelming success of the Alpha Demo in April—as well as the community’s generous feedback—the Nioh Beta Demo will incorporate a number of gameplay changes made with fans in mind, which will be immediately noticeable upon their return to the village of Usuki. This first stage of the demo will offer new challenges and the opportunity to once again fight for the mysterious Mark of the Conqueror DLC. Warriors who conquered Usuki and procured the DLC during the Alpha Demo won’t be left wanting, however, as they will receive a set of weapons and more starting money. These champions will also have the opportunity to play through the new Nakatsu stage without having to clear Usuki again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjwZRxPUd1g
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Aug 17, 2016 11:20
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Meanwhile, in Souls-ish news, Lords of the Fallen studio is trying again with The Surge and it looks, not terrible? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr6Ah1pHM_8 I'm still wary about some of the stuff in that video and Nioh will probably come out better but I won't begrudge people trying to get in on that action, since the mechanics are what really draw me to Souls. Nioh has pretty much already sold me, I just need to see some more of it.
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Aug 17, 2016 11:27
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I want Surge to be good but Lords of the Fallen was so loving bad. Also it appears to be more standard robots and stuff rather than the biomechanical monstrosities I'd expect from, uh, FROM doing a sci-fi thing. Watching the video again it still has my main complaint from LotF, in that everything seems so slow and it looks way harder than it should be to avoid attacks, like it was designed by people who though sword+board heavy armour was the best way to play Souls. Which I guess people do. Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Aug 17, 2016 14:03
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Orv posted:Meanwhile, in Souls-ish news, Lords of the Fallen studio is trying again with The Surge and it looks, not terrible? Hmmm, so many people were asking for sci-fi souls, so that's interesting. It looks like Edge of Tomorrow Souls. Sakurazuka posted:I want Surge to be good but Lords of the Fallen was so loving bad. Also it appears to be more standard robots and stuff rather than the biomechanical monstrosities I'd expect from, uh, FROM doing a sci-fi thing. Yeah, and Lords had great graphics and at least got the basic idea of souls right, but still fell apart really fast once you got a few bosses in. So we won't really be able to judge this from just trailers, we're gonna need to play it or see an in-depth review before I can get too excited about it.
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Aug 17, 2016 14:15
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Lords had garbage gameplay. None of the other poo poo matters if the gameplay itself is poo poo. And yes, boss design was mostly terrible and tedious. Fortunately, Nioh is gonna own, so...
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Aug 17, 2016 17:47
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Snak posted:Lords had garbage gameplay. None of the other poo poo matters if the gameplay itself is poo poo. And yes, boss design was mostly terrible and tedious. I know, my point is that everything appeared to be okay until we got to play it ourselves, so even if the sci-fi souls looks good the key thing is the gameplay being not garbage and we won't know that until we play it ourselves. That's what I was saying 
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Aug 17, 2016 17:47
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I guess I'm just saying that that "the basic idea" of souls is good gameplay.
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Aug 17, 2016 18:00
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Snak posted:I guess I'm just saying that that "the basic idea" of souls is good gameplay. Yes and I agree completely from the get-go, that's the whole point dude
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Aug 17, 2016 18:05
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My favorite part of Lords of the Fallen was how my dashing heavy attack was by far my fastest so I ended up sprinting and lunging all over the goddamn place. It wasn't the worst game ever but boy was the combat dire. Everything was so sluggish and there was no weight behind anything.
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Aug 20, 2016 14:20
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I'm gonna 2kat all day tomorrow when SCEA shows how poo poo it is at updating it's store compared to their EU and JP counterparts.
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Aug 22, 2016 17:19
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Oh poo poo it's tomorrow hell yes
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Aug 22, 2016 17:33
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Yodzilla posted:My favorite part of Lords of the Fallen was how my dashing heavy attack was by far my fastest so I ended up sprinting and lunging all over the goddamn place. It wasn't the worst game ever but boy was the combat dire. Everything was so sluggish and there was no weight behind anything.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:07
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smuh posted:Hah, that's what I did too. Only way to make slow weapons remotely useful. What a garbage game. Even with the fastest weapons, you couldn't evade an attack and hit back against an enemy with a shield because of how fast they turned around. Pretty hyped about the Nioh Demo tomorrow. Hopefully I'll make a few videos covering it, at least showcasing the changes from the last demo.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:30
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All I know about Lords of the Fallen is that they give you a shaky cam on a dodge roll so I kept not being able to see when I'm trying to dodge, and I died to the first boss because all the hits have no weight to them so I thought I was perfectly dodging him while he whittled down my health.
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Aug 22, 2016 21:27
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nioh, kof, and deus ex Aug 23rd is 
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Aug 22, 2016 21:32
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Snak posted:Even with the fastest weapons, you couldn't evade an attack and hit back against an enemy with a shield because of how fast they turned around. Yeah, people hate on some enemies in dark souls being able to constantly turn to follow you, but that's nothing compared to lords of the fallen. The game looked pretty good and tried some new things, to give them credit, but it really didn't come together. They tried to make weighty clunky fighting like dark souls, but they went way too far so it was just slow and cumbersome. And like Ocarina of Time, in several situations there's just not really anything the player can do except wait; you have no options. Just waiting until you finally get an opening to exploit isn't fun, its tedious. The solution is to use magic abilities and the like to just cheese your way past, but that's not really satisfying either. Nioh however is like the opposite; where Lords gave you very little player agency, Nioh gives you a toooooon of options. Enemy not giving you an opening? Switch styles to low stance! Hit them fast and break their guard! Use a polearm and out-range them! Choices. I'm excited to get to play some more 
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Aug 22, 2016 21:49
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Literally going to buy this game day 1 as I loved the first demo. Can't wait for tomorrows demo. To me it didn't feel like Souls at all besides the stamina and difficulty. Now to beat the second demo and see if i like the changes they made.
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Aug 22, 2016 21:57
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The only things that feel souls-like about Nioh are the bloodstains, shrines, and shortcut loops/general level design. Which isn't nothing. The combat itself doesn't have much in common with souls within the genre.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:14
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I dunno guys I think its way more souls-like than just about every other game ever made. Its different, sure, its a different group of people, but they're unmistakably in the same genre and the only other games in that genre are like Lords of the Fallen and then maybe stuff like Zelda or Castlevania if you really wanna stretch it, maybe King's Field but not really. There's a couple different sides to Dark Souls, the layout of the levels and how you progress, and then the visceral stamina-based combat. Nioh does both of those very similar to Souls. You've got health and stamina, you have deliberate actions that can't be cancelled on the fly, you have death that pushes you back and respawns enemies, and you have levels that spiral around while opening up shortcuts and leading to bosses. Its a Souls-like.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:36
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I guess, it struck me more as Onimusha or maybe even Tenchu. I see why people compare it to Souls even though the combat didn't feel like that to me. It was very enjoyable and it will be even better once they smooth out the framerate.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:43
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I agree that it's a souls-like, but I hardly think that a stamina bar makes the otherwise-very-different combat one of the similarities. Stance switching, ki pulses, countering, and grappling make the combat pretty far from what souls combat is like.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:11
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Is this going to be up around midnight?
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Aug 22, 2016 23:47
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Psyching myself up to once again brute force some oni with nothing but high stance katana.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:08
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Modest Mao posted:Is this going to be up around midnight? SCEA releases games sometime between 10am pst on tuesday and the heat death of the universe.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:44
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Modest Mao posted:Is this going to be up around midnight? haha
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Aug 23, 2016 01:51
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sounds like you cant do this any more  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0_D0nykqk
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Aug 23, 2016 03:00
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That was one of the neatest parts of their combat system, what the hell.
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Aug 23, 2016 03:04
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Wait which part can't you do? I'm not sure what I'm looking at there.
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Aug 23, 2016 03:57
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The cowardly back dodge after every low hit. You can still do it, it just doesn't refresh your Ki. Now you can do this exact strat in High Stance way faster. Belzac fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Aug 23, 2016 05:02
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its up for basically everywhere not north america. 4.358 GB mashing through your stamina doesn't leave you wheezing it just prevents you from attacking. if someone empties your stamina by hitting you (guarding or otherwise) you do still get stunned. lets hang out fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Aug 23, 2016 05:35
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