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Palisader posted:Just get a sandwich press, goddamn.  Buy a grill from a retired boxer. #lifehack
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The Ape of Naples posted:Huh. Apparently they're called "Ninja Rocks" and are considered burglary tools in California and Washington. Sounds like something we would have called them back in high school. But yeah, as a former rear end in a top hat teenager, they work wonders on car windows when getting up to mischief. Something sciency about the crystal structure vs tempered glass, but they are relatively quiet compared to smashing with a hammer or crowbar or othe rtypical means Well i'll be.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_rocks Heck this was back in the 80s so about 10 years before the first wiki references
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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:Sounds like something we would have called them back in high school. But yeah, as a former rear end in a top hat teenager, they work wonders on car windows when getting up to mischief. Something sciency about the crystal structure vs tempered glass, but they are relatively quiet compared to smashing with a hammer or crowbar or othe rtypical means They should just make hammers out of shards of spark plugs.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:51
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Criminals can 3d print your keys if they see them and break into your house so make sure to never have your keys in sight of anyone! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01WJn9jp_s8&t=42s
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Jun 15, 2016 21:02
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The Ape of Naples posted:They should just make hammers out of shards of spark plugs. Well, they do make ceramic-head hammers, but they're not shard-y.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:11
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Alterian posted:Criminals can 3d print your keys if they see them and break into your house so make sure to never have your keys in sight of anyone! They can also just use a metal file, but gotta cash in on the 3D‐printing buzz.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:13
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Alterian posted:Criminals can 3d print your keys if they see them and break into your house so make sure to never have your keys in sight of anyone! I love that at no point did he try to use that eggshell of a key in an actual lock.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:13
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Hey guys listen you can 3d print any key to open any Master ® lock!!! Is this a key? To Master ® locks it is! Master ® locks, the world's most widely accpeting lock maker. #lifehack #lockhacks #notalock
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Jun 15, 2016 22:56
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Bosnianbill could certainly make it work
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Jun 15, 2016 22:58
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Yeah I'm going to spend 3 hours hacking your keys instead of 30seconds picking your wal-mart door lock hahah wait a second is this the infamous anti-life-hack. Giving criminals fake hacks to waste their time???? Genius
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Jun 15, 2016 23:07
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State of the art of consumer 3D printing has now reached Master ® lock levels of tolerances, LEGO ® levels of tolerances expected to hit the market in 2025.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:12
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Karma Monkey posted:Well, they do make ceramic-head hammers, but they're not shard-y. The trick is how sharp the ceramic shard gets, you could honestly use any broken piece of the right kind of ceramic, it's just that broken spark plug pieces hold an edge surprisingly well and fit in your pocket.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:13
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Why yes, I do like to hold an edge in my pocket. That's where I keep all my favourite things.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:14
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Seath the Peelless has betrayed the other Everlasting Bananas in the hopes of preventing his ripening. The Chosen Undead must slay him and eat his Lord Soul off the floor like a animal. 
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Jun 15, 2016 23:49
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If you're surprised by the spark plug hack you've obviously never played Telltale's Walking Dead game.
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Karate Bastard posted:State of the art of consumer 3D printing has now reached Master ® lock levels of tolerances So, cat food tin lids, then?
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Old Chrysler cars are also a no-go for security. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4Haj1dkmk Is it this thread that lockpicking has come up in a few times? Where the general consensus is that locks just serve as a deterrent to lazy or cautious criminals and anyone with mild skill and determination can break them easily?
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Jun 16, 2016 00:33
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Good locks would also take about a minute or so to open too so someone doesn't just walk up to a masterlock with a rake and just take a bike while everyone walking by thinks they just used a key
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Control Volume posted:Good locks would also take about a minute or so to open too so someone doesn't just walk up to a masterlock with a rake and just take a bike while everyone walking by thinks they just used a key Well, the key there (har har) is that locks mostly just keep away criminals who aren't actually dedicated to committing the crime. They'll keep away guys who don't want to be caught by a bystander or the owner fiddling with a lock, or are afraid that they'll make too much noise smashing it open. The people who actually want to break the lock and are willing to rub two brain cells together to figure out how to deal with it are going to have little trouble with any cheap lock like the Masterlocks that bosnianbill keeps exploiting like a Bethesda RPG.
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chitoryu12 posted:Well, the key there (har har) is that locks mostly just keep away criminals who aren't actually dedicated to committing the crime. They'll keep away guys who don't want to be caught by a bystander or the owner fiddling with a lock, or are afraid that they'll make too much noise smashing it open. The people who actually want to break the lock and are willing to rub two brain cells together to figure out how to deal with it are going to have little trouble with any cheap lock like the Masterlocks that bosnianbill keeps exploiting like a Bethesda RPG. True, my Jeep Cherokee had the same lock he picked above, and my thief just jammed a screwdriver and popped the whole lock cylinder out of the door, which when you pull on it, it unlocks the door.  my $20 socket set and jumper cables
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Jun 16, 2016 02:12
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CharlieWhiskey posted:True, my Jeep Cherokee had the same lock he picked above, and my thief just jammed a screwdriver and popped the whole lock cylinder out of the door, which when you pull on it, it unlocks the door. There was a thread in Ask/Tell a while ago where a guy ended up losing his key to his apartment mailbox or something and had no way to open it. After much discussion about buying a transparent padlock and pick set and learning how to pick it, he just shoved a screwdriver in the hole and twisted until the lock bent open because it was made of soft metal.
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Honestly most safety systems are just about being more annoying to break into that your neighbors. If a trained thief wants your poo poo they can take it. Edit: I used to watch that show "to catch a thief", the most effective tool for breaking into a house was usually a big rock through a window. There was exactly one episode where the neighbors even checked about the sound of broken glass. And I'm pretty that was faked to make the neighborhood cop look good. Shwqa has a new favorite as of 08:56 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Jun 16, 2016 08:53
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PiratePing posted:It's mostly that a light breeze will send them swinging wildly, splattering your guests and loved ones with hot wax. Getting the wax out of the inevitable rustic barnwood table underneath must be a chore too. THis has been around for literally decades. It does not work. I tried it ten years ago, it sucks.
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Jun 16, 2016 10:10
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A couple of years ago my neighbour lost his keys and had a locksmith around. On my way out I asked the locksmith why he was drilling out the whole lock and not picking it, like I thought they were taught those things before becoming a locksmith. He basically told me he could probably pick the lock in 5 minutes, but then the customer would just want to pay him $5 for 5 minutes of work, which doesn't even cover the 30 minutes of driving he had to do for the job. No, he'd rather drill the lock and install a new lock and charge $150 for the new lock + installation. Also, something about it's always smart to change the lock when you lose the key. #smallbusinesshack
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Jun 16, 2016 10:47
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Now that is a valuable life lesson. #lifehack: If you lose your apartment key (or other critical item), simply kill yourself and life will immediately load the latest auto-save.
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Shanghaied posted:A couple of years ago my neighbour lost his keys and had a locksmith around. On my way out I asked the locksmith why he was drilling out the whole lock and not picking it, like I thought they were taught those things before becoming a locksmith. He basically told me he could probably pick the lock in 5 minutes, but then the customer would just want to pay him $5 for 5 minutes of work, which doesn't even cover the 30 minutes of driving he had to do for the job. No, he'd rather drill the lock and install a new lock and charge $150 for the new lock + installation. Also, something about it's always smart to change the lock when you lose the key. #smallbusinesshack I understand wanting to get paid for your work and time but that just sounds like a dick move. Did you tell your neighbour?
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nexus6 posted:I understand wanting to get paid for your work and time but that just sounds like a dick move. Did you tell your neighbour? It seems like the only way a locksmith would make decent money on those jobs without charging huge prices for everything. Otherwise they'd need to inflate their prices so you're paying out the nose for a task that you could learn to do in a few hours of work and never bother with again.
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Have you never dealt with the public? Everyones a weasel. No one wants to pay. Blame capitalism or something, I guess? Even if its five minutes of extreme skill (see: most of the IT threads on these forums) no one wants to pay for the skill, just what they see as something easy and no time at all. Even if it took four years of schooling.
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I get that. I've heard the rationales and I'm in software development myself but I still feel shady when we bill someone an hour for a task that took me 2 minutes, especially if it's something they could have done themselves.
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Like Whistler said in the famous court case against Ruskin, you don't get paid for highly skilled work based on the actual time spent, but on "the knowledge of a lifetime."
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AlbieQuirky posted:Like Whistler said in the famous court case against Ruskin, you don't get paid for highly skilled work based on the actual time spent, but on "the knowledge of a lifetime." Yeah, professionally you can hit a point where you're paid less for your time and more for being trustworthy enough to not gently caress up.
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I once called a locksmith because my girlfriend had accidentally locked me inside the apartment leaving for work in the morning. It was one of those old timey lever locks, and that day we found out that our keys were actually too short to catch the mechanism from the inside. Probably the first time the guy was able to open a locked door with the actual key, which I handed him through the mail slot. I made sure to call one in the immediate neighborhood, and he charged me a tenner, which I thought was fair enough. I mean he did have to come over.
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My Lovely Horse posted:I once called a locksmith because my girlfriend had accidentally locked me inside the apartment leaving for work in the morning. It was one of those old timey lever locks, and that day we found out that our keys were actually too short to catch the mechanism from the inside. Probably the first time the guy was able to open a locked door with the actual key, which I handed him through the mail slot. Why call a locksmith in that case? You could have called literally anyone who could take a key and open the door. You probably could have ordered take out for that much and got him to open the door for you. I think this was an episode of Peep Show now that I think about it. E: Yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ontu2YKtzRY VVV That's fair. I didn't mean to really call you out. I was more thinking out loud. I was pretty sure that you had tried different options. Also, sorry you had to lose that sax solo. RoyKeen has a new favorite as of 18:32 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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I tried a few folks but everyone was at work. Which was also where I was supposed to be, so it was a little urgent and that really was the fastest option. Briefly considered the police but was like, screw that, I'm not keeping the cops busy for something this ridiculous, nor am I ending up in the curiosities section of the police report. e: now that I think about it, she did it again a few weeks later, and that time I did have the time to call a buddy.
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My Lovely Horse posted:e: now that I think about it, she did it again a few weeks later, and that time I did have the time to call a buddy. Learn to take a hint, buddy.
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I think the deal with 3d printed (or CNC machined) keys from a photo is not that it suddenly makes it possible to forge keys that were previously inimitable. If any idiot can use a cell phone app to order a copy of a key with close to zero effort, that's going to happen more frequently for nefarious purposes than lockpicking or key copying techniques which require time, skill or general persistence. All physical security boils down to discouraging casual theft and costing determined thieves as much time as possible.
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My Lovely Horse posted:e: now that I think about it, she did it again a few weeks later, and that time I did have the time to call a buddy. Why does your girlfriend want to keep you trapped in your home, forums poster My Lovely Horse?
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My Lovely Horse posted:I tried a few folks but everyone was at work. Which was also where I was supposed to be, so it was a little urgent and that really was the fastest option. Should have McGyvered some sticks together with tape into a keyholder you could use to open it from the outside through the mailslot.
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He's being Fritzld. Gesundheit. I think as 3D printers become more commonplace, more and more home security measures will move to become less and less of delay tactic mechanisms, and more and more of a maze of unintentionally deadly booby traps.
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Lifehack: you can't be arrested for setting booby traps in your house if your booby traps kill you first.
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