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havenwaters posted:It won't be a localization just a translation I want these people handing their project over to the AAI2 fan patch team immediately.
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Suspicious Cook posted:I want these people handing their project over to the AAI2 fan patch team immediately. Look, I paid good money for this monkey's paw.
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Regalingualius posted:What'd they do 
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Jun 17, 2016 19:56
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Junpei Hyde posted:Look, I paid good money for this monkey's paw. Grab a seat Groove to the Beat And Join me on my Journey
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Jun 17, 2016 20:10
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Which one does the image want us to prefer? because I like the one with less words. The same things are being said, but with less verbiage, making for easier reading.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:35
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It's very sparse, utilitarian dialogue, which doesn't feel right for a arrogant, megalomanic king. It's like something out of an early PS1 game
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Jun 17, 2016 20:46
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There was a teardown of that scene I read somewhere that pointed out the fan translation doesn't actually say much of anything while the localization does a little bit of worldbuilding as well. Here it is. The formatting's gotten kind of funky but you should still be able to read it.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:55
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There's a disturbing contingent of people who think that translating a game is "oh just make all the japanese words english!!! easy peasy!!!" You have to make those words fuckin' flow, man.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:12
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You're telling me translating characterizations from Japanese to English isn't 1:1? 
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Jun 17, 2016 21:17
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TheLoser posted:You're telling me translating characterizations from Japanese to English isn't 1:1? Let me tell you how translations in all languages will soon be done via AIs without human participation/interference at all.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:23
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Foglet posted:Let me tell you how translations in all languages will soon be done via AIs without human participation/interference at all. Google translate is quick therefore it is good
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Jun 17, 2016 21:25
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What's an idiom, anyway?
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Jun 17, 2016 23:14
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Geniasis posted:What's an idiom, anyway? A miserable little pile of figurative meanings. Enough talk. Have at you.
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Jun 17, 2016 23:24
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Foglet posted:A miserable little pile of figurative meanings. Perhaps the same could be said of all translations.
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Jun 18, 2016 00:20
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Geniasis posted:What's an idiom, anyway? Try looking in the mirror.
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Jun 18, 2016 03:02
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Funky Valentine posted:There's a disturbing contingent of people who think that translating a game is "oh just make all the japanese words english!!! easy peasy!!!" Oh god, as a translation student, I see this all the time ("Why are you studying that if you know english already?"). That teardown posted earlier pretty much addresses why the localization is waaay better. This is a game with world-building, character development and stuff and not a legal document. You want dry and simple on legal and academic translation, not on this! People really have no idea how hard a translation can be depending on whether you are doing a localization, subtitling (those character limits are hell when Spanish is the TL), dealing with names of institutions when they don't have an official name in the TL, dubbing, literary translation (poetry is just on a whole different level jesus christ), dealing with different audiences and having to guess the kind of language hou have to use, etc.
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Jun 18, 2016 15:21
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To be fair Fates really doesn't have much in the way of worldbuilding.
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OBJECTIONABLE! I am not find one while you answer!? - Mitosurougi Reiijii
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Jun 18, 2016 15:33
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Josuke Higashikata posted:OBJECTIONABLE! I am not find one while you answer!? What the gently caress is an objection I only know igiari. igiariable.
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Jun 18, 2016 15:39
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So, remember the yokai village in AA5? Case 4 of AA6 is about ten times more difficult to localize as that one was. I have no idea how they're even going to approach this one.
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Jun 19, 2016 11:24
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What's the general idea of that exactly?
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Jun 19, 2016 11:26
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Baal posted:What's the general idea of that exactly? This is the most minimal of spoilers, but it involves Rakugo theater, soba noodles, as well as the karuta card game, among other things. And to make it even harder, there are some case-related deep cultural references plus some choice "this is an integral part of our culture and legacy" quotes sprinkled throughout. And then there's some evidence involving wordplay too.
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Jun 19, 2016 12:45
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Sounds pretty American to me.
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Jun 19, 2016 12:49
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Ah the Chihayafuru crossover I always wanted
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Jun 19, 2016 12:50
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I can't wait to hear the American version of Jugemu Jugemu.
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Jun 19, 2016 12:51
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Strange Quark posted:I can't wait to hear the American version of Jugemu Jugemu. This is one of the first things that is quoted in the chapter, of course. Later there are much more obscure quotes.
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Jun 19, 2016 12:53
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orenronen posted:This is the most minimal of spoilers, but it involves Rakugo theater, soba noodles, as well as the karuta card game, among other things. And to make it even harder, there are some case-related deep cultural references plus some choice "this is an integral part of our culture and legacy" quotes sprinkled throughout. And then there's some evidence involving wordplay too. Yes, yes!
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Jun 19, 2016 12:59
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The localization in that screenshot honestly reads really awkwardly to me as well. It's just a bit longer. Changing the location of AA was obviously a mistake in hindsight but it's very funny so I can forgive it. e: have we had confirmation that the writers are deliberately loving with the localizers yet?
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Jun 19, 2016 13:04
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Changing the location of AA was obviously a mistake in hindsight
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Jun 19, 2016 13:05
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Really though Case 4 won't be a problem because AA6 will have a direct translation.
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Jun 19, 2016 13:07
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orenronen posted:This is the most minimal of spoilers, but it involves Rakugo theater, soba noodles, as well as the karuta card game, among other things. And to make it even harder, there are some case-related deep cultural references plus some choice "this is an integral part of our culture and legacy" quotes sprinkled throughout. And then there's some evidence involving wordplay too. Clearly it's all just weeb poo poo that Blackquill is into.
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Jun 19, 2016 13:12
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I assume you just overhaul the puzzles in the case completely at that point.
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Jun 19, 2016 13:22
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I assume you just overhaul the puzzles in the case completely at that point. Watch as literally the entire case revolves around a serial killer that kills people in ways related to Karuta, and the clues, as well as the contradictions in wtiness testimony, all revolve around obscure japanese poetry the audience is expected to have some familiarity with, just to force the translators to have an aneurysm and completely rewrite the entire case from the ground up and pull a Voltron, using the same art assets to tell a completely different story. (I don't actually know anything about the plot this isn't an actual spoiler)
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Jun 19, 2016 13:37
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thank god i actually know how both rakugo and karuta works
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Jun 19, 2016 13:40
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Davincie posted:thank god i actually know how both rakugo and karuta works lol
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Jun 19, 2016 13:41
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Maybe they'll just take the opportunity to broaden our cultural horizons
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Jun 19, 2016 14:11
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Regy Rusty posted:Maybe they'll just take the opportunity to broaden our cultural horizons The puzzles are all gonna be Rummy-based, and you're gonna like it. 
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Jun 19, 2016 14:12
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And More posted:The puzzles are all gonna be Rummy-based, and you're gonna like it. That still counts
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Jun 19, 2016 14:20
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time to poop this party, the PR for spirit of justice already said that kurain is "the far east", they can have whatever japanese culture they want in there and just have maya explain everything to nick like a child
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Quest For Glory II posted:time to poop this party, the PR for spirit of justice already said that kurain is "the far east", Ah, New York.
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