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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

wiegieman posted:

I want to point out that I think everyone should read Buck Godot, it's miles ahead of anything the Foglios have done.

Like, why the hell are they doing GG when they could do more Buck Godot?

Because their main personal interest is steampunk, not 2000AD-esque space pulp?

But yeah BG is pretty great.

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Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

nimby posted:

It was a good comic to start years ago, when well drawn comics weren't that plentiful. Now it coasts by on inertia and a need to see how the plot resolves.

yeah, i get that.

i stopped reading the wheel of time at book 8 because it got really boring, but i started reading it again when the original author died and they got a new guy to finish it. as a series it's not very good, but i liked it at the beginning when i was younger and i wanted to find out how it ends.

is sluggy freelance showing any signs of ending like the artist promised?

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I used to read GG, but the period where a guest artist did a weird non-canon chapter with worse art than usual resulted in me putting it down and not picking it back up. That was long enough ago that I think I'd have to start from the beginning if I wanted to get back into it.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Hogge Wild posted:

is sluggy freelance showing any signs of ending like the artist promised?

It's slowly trudging toward taking down the evil corporation, but at a sluggy pace. At a guess I'd say it might end in three to five years.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
It definitely does feel like it's on the way out, at least. We can have some hope that our children will live in a post-Bun-Bun world.

hostess with the Moltres
May 15, 2013
After reading through Girly and some of Lesnick's other webcomics, I can say that he's pretty good at cartooning. But I don't get why he's so defensive about Moon over June. What's the deal? Getting defensive about the webcomics you sell on your porn site doesn't seem like a good way to get people interested in subscriptions.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Gabriel Pope posted:

I just binged the last 30 months of it due to thread talk and I was pleasantly surprised. The pacing has improved immeasurably and while the faces are very not good they've at least reined in some of the worst excesses.

I feel like the pacing is always way better when binging through the archives, since they definitely wrote everything with the completed books and chapters in mind rather than the day to day pages. It's really a page-turner that makes you want to keep going as a bunch of things happen on every page. I really liked the radio plays they used to have on their site, because they really showed what kind of frenetic pace the Foglios try to get at, and how incredibly pulpy the whole thing is.

But like I said before, site full of dead links.

wiegieman posted:

I want to point out that I think everyone should read Buck Godot, it's miles ahead of anything the Foglios have done.

Like, why the hell are they doing GG when they could do more Buck Godot?

Buck Godot is currently doing community service for the rest of eternity for being a couple months late on his taxes.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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SlothfulCobra posted:

I feel like the pacing is always way better when binging through the archives, since they definitely wrote everything with the completed books and chapters in mind rather than the day to day pages. It's really a page-turner that makes you want to keep going as a bunch of things happen on every page. I really liked the radio plays they used to have on their site, because they really showed what kind of frenetic pace the Foglios try to get at, and how incredibly pulpy the whole thing is.

This helps, but even on a binge the castle is still a terrible plod. The time skip was the best thing that's ever happened to the comic because it condensed the action back down to a manageable number of viewpoints (and I say this as a fan of sprawling ensemble casts.)

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
The last quarter or so of the castle arc is great, but the middle slog which devotes 90% of its time to playing deadly disease hot potato is very not good

The fake heterodyne girl Zola was a bright spot through the whole thing at least

Humboldt Squid
Jan 21, 2006

Constr posted:

After reading through Girly and some of Lesnick's other webcomics, I can say that he's pretty good at cartooning. But I don't get why he's so defensive about Moon over June. What's the deal? Getting defensive about the webcomics you sell on your porn site doesn't seem like a good way to get people interested in subscriptions.

I don't think he is good at cartooning, to be honest. A lot of the time I can't even make sense of what he draws, it just looks like someone put panel borders on a Jackson Pollock painting.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

DolphinCop posted:

The last quarter or so of the castle arc is great, but the middle slog which devotes 90% of its time to playing deadly disease hot potato is very not good

The fake heterodyne girl Zola was a bright spot through the whole thing at least

The disease arc did get us some good one-liners, though.

"We're just going to kill you, and then you'll be FINE!"

(I enjoy GG's hokey Silver Age-esque dialogue emphasis, despite myself)

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
I enjoy that they actually hit the right words. Genuine silver age comics always seemed to emphasise words that would be really bizarre to stress in real life.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

So in Monster Pulse news, we have confirmation that it's mostly just Enid who is a bit of a headcase. Tooth guy seems like the most well adjusted person we've seen in the comic thus far.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

KittyEmpress posted:

So in Monster Pulse news, we have confirmation that it's mostly just Enid who is a bit of a headcase. Tooth guy seems like the most well adjusted person we've seen in the comic thus far.

roll...

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Humboldt Squid posted:

I don't think he is good at cartooning, to be honest. A lot of the time I can't even make sense of what he draws, it just looks like someone put panel borders on a Jackson Pollock painting.

same he's the kind of guy I had in mind when I said at least with GG I can tell who I'm looking at or what they're doing

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

KittyEmpress posted:

So in Monster Pulse news, we have confirmation that it's mostly just Enid who is a bit of a headcase. Tooth guy seems like the most well adjusted person we've seen in the comic thus far.

He may be calm, but that's definitely not a sign of being well-adjusted under the circumstances. He personally has nothing to worry about--his monster's strong enough to go toe-to-toe with Ayo, and even if it lost he'd be totally unaffected. That makes this whole thing a game to him, no matter how it affects anyone else. This is a pretty stark contrast to Bina, who shows a lot of (justified) fear and anger but nonetheless swears to protect everyone, even though it puts her life on the line. To me, that makes her the well-adjusted one.

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

KittyEmpress posted:

So in Monster Pulse news, we have confirmation that it's mostly just Enid who is a bit of a headcase. Tooth guy seems like the most well adjusted person we've seen in the comic thus far.

I love that spineless chick is trying to pull a Nice Guy on tooth dude.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

DolphinCop posted:

The last quarter or so of the castle arc is great, but the middle slog which devotes 90% of its time to playing deadly disease hot potato is very not good

The fake heterodyne girl Zola was a bright spot through the whole thing at least

I stand by my theory that a good chunk of Mechanicsburg/Castle Hetrodyne was stalling for time while the Foglios tried to figure out what the hell they were going to do with the plot. It's telling that the pacing sped up by an order of magnitude the instant Agatha got out of the city.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pavlov posted:

I love that spineless chick is trying to pull a Nice Guy on tooth dude.

i wouldn't go so far as to say that

also i wouldn't want to live in close proximity to enid either

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Constr posted:

After reading through Girly and some of Lesnick's other webcomics, I can say that he's pretty good at cartooning. But I don't get why he's so defensive about Moon over June. What's the deal? Getting defensive about the webcomics you sell on your porn site doesn't seem like a good way to get people interested in subscriptions.

to be fair, he hasn't gotten upset over Moon over June bashing in the webcomics threads for like... four years? five years? it was just so out of nowhere that it became memorable, like Android Blues defending dominic deegan

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
I think it also happened at the same time people first discovered MoJ, so no one had yet built up an immunity to its carnival of unfathomable grotesquerie. It made the full-throated defense of the art even more bewildering.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off
caught up on two+ years of girl genius after all this chat about it. it's always much easier to enjoy the comic & ignore its flaws when you're not reading serially - i hadn't been too excited about the beginning of the train arc when i stopped reading last, but it read fine going through it all at once.

i really do love all the absurd plotting - everyone has at least one secret agenda! - and the ridiculous contraptions that people treat as 'ordinary'. the baron's forces are the closest to 'practical' that anything comes in the comic, but he's still got giant walking fists commanded by 'punch-captains'. when it's not trying too hard to make Science! jokes, it's quite funny.

anyway, now it's time to wait another two years before catching up again...

SuperHappy
Aug 22, 2004

feel the rhythm with your hands

Constr posted:

After reading through Girly and some of Lesnick's other webcomics, I can say that he's pretty good at cartooning. But I don't get why he's so defensive about Moon over June. What's the deal? Getting defensive about the webcomics you sell on your porn site doesn't seem like a good way to get people interested in subscriptions.

Maybe I'll blog about why I like MoJ someday. I'm not really crazy about my drunken SAforums+twitter tantrum method of defending it back then, or pretty much 95% of the things I said on the internet during my webcomic days, but that's another blog post that would take five days to write.

Also, it's cool if you're not into my art, but I wonder if the people who still say it's messy have even read You Suck, lol (the answer is no. Nobody read You Suck :cry:)

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Oh shut up you baby, people read it. Liked it, even! I didn't even especially mind when it was literal scribbles, because it was a fun story, but I appreciate if you weren't super happy publishing it in that condition if it felt like you weren't giving it enough attention.

I'd have liked it to continue, but I'm glad you decided to make a clean break and declare updates over rather than just leave it hanging forever.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

SuperHappy posted:

why I like MoJ

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
So, whatever happened to Allie Brosh? Last thing I remember was a big comc-post about her having what she didn't recognize as a manic episode and then suddenly radio silence for five goddamn years. :ohdear:

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.

Poison Mushroom posted:

So, whatever happened to Allie Brosh? Last thing I remember was a big comc-post about her having what she didn't recognize as a manic episode and then suddenly radio silence for five goddamn years. :ohdear:

The last thing I saw her on was a youtube show called spellslingers, which holy crap was two years ago.

Wittgen fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jun 19, 2016

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Wittgen posted:

The last thing I saw her on was a youtube show called spellslingers, which holy crap was two years ago.
A bit of googling and apparently about a year ago, she showed up in an episode of Tabletop (the Wil Wheaton board game thing) with Markiplier and that one chick from Heroes, which is a sentence that honestly sounds like a parody of internet culture.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
She has another book coming out, theoretically in October.

https://www.amazon.com/Solutions-Other-Problems-Allie-Brosh/dp/1501103288

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



I don't get today's Oglaf...

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
it's a yoga joke

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

RODNEY THE RACEHOR
Jan 1, 2016

i hope my friend dahmer has a happy ending
i am glorious

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
This recent chain of Foglio chat is making me really mad that I can't find my goddamned copy of the first several Buck Godot comics, I got it as a door prize at a sci-fi con I went to earlier this year and it's really good and it is nowhere to be found :argh:

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

TCJ did an interview with Shiga: http://www.tcj.com/interview-with-jason-shiga/

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Roland Jones posted:

I used to read GG, but the period where a guest artist did a weird non-canon chapter with worse art than usual resulted in me putting it down and not picking it back up. That was long enough ago that I think I'd have to start from the beginning if I wanted to get back into it.

The worst part is, that guest artist did more than one guest story arc...

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

quote:

Also, a lot of the issues were insane. Issue seven was four pages long, and I insisted it must be four pages long. There’s another issue that has no images in it, but I think it might still be a comic and I insisted this issue must exist as well. I was like, “These are my demands: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven…” Not surprisingly, publishers passed on it. I was indignant. I was like gently caress you all!

That's pretty apropos to the comic.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

:golfclap:

Also that time delay joke never gets old. :v:

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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

quote:

While I’m in Angoulême I’m going to work on my most ambitious project to date. It will be another choose-your-own-adventure comic, likeMeanwhile, except that Meanwhile was only seventy pages, whereas this one is going to be five hundred pages. It’s going to be split into two books, and the two books will be joined together along a third spine. The pages of the book will be facing each other so that you can essentially open the book from the middle. It’ll use the same tab system that Meanwhile uses, except that in addition to tubes taking you to different pages, that is, different tabbed pages within one book, tubes will also cross the middle spine into the second book. The most exciting part is that when you’re reading one book, the pages in the book that you’re not reading can basically store states, meaning you could be reading the same panel in one book, but depending on the page that the other book is flipped to in the book that you’re not reading, the next panel in the sequence could be totally different. The long and short of it is the book you’re not reading will be able to store memory, almost like a computer. The story that you are reading will be able to access the memory in the other book and feed you sequences of panels depending on what’s in the memory.

:aaaaa:

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