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Grand Fromage posted:Oh okay, sorry. I have a twitchy response to that poo poo because it's so common. It makes for p good video games, though.
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There was a thread a while back about a goon who was arrested for growing and selling weed in Japan. He didn't confess and had to find a new lawyer because his initial one wouldn't work with a uncooperative criminal. I think he managed to get a pretty sweet deal of time served and deportation because the prosecutors got pretty alarmed at the prospect of actually having to go to trial.
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Fictionalized (and sterilized), but there's a based on a true story Japanese movie called "I Just Didn't Do It" about a guy who was falsely accused of groping a girl on a train. It ruined his life and took him 5 years of legal battles to prove his innocence. It can easily be found and watched online. His lawyer, like mentioned above, was basically like "You just just say you're guilty and get on with your life. Once you're charged with a crime they'll basically hold you indefinitely until they've convicted you."
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Jun 17, 2016 06:45
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It's so all or nothing. There's a bunch of minor stuff that'd get you arrested in the US that in Japan nobody cares about or you'll get thrown in the drunk tank and let out the next day like nothing happened. But if you get arrested for real it's a genuine Kafkaesque nightmare.
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In a lot of ways I'd say the system in Japan is scarier than the corrupt system in China. If you get caught up in the criminal justice system in Japan you are completely hosed. If you are caught in the system in China, unless you are a high value political prisoner, there's an 80% chance the police either won't want to bother doing their job so they'll let you go, or will take a bribe and let you go.
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sincx fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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i recall some horror story anecdote about the quirks of the Chinese system where a dude woke up surrounded by cops and the start of a very, very bad day because he went and got drunk the other night and punched out the son of a local official, so i guess that sort of "holy poo poo dude you did what" sort of thing covers the 1%
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The Japanese justice system is terrible in a qualitative way. The American justice system is terrible in a quantitative way. The Chinese justice system is terrible in a Chinese way.
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When I was studying abroad in China one of my buddies had a regular jogging route he'd hit every morning. One day a gate was open that had never been open before, so he figured 'what the hell' and detoured down it. Immediately tackled by like five soldiers cause he'd wandered into an unmarked military base or some poo poo. Of course, since he's jogging, he has no passport, no money, etc. They question him for about an hour before they realize he's harmless and kick him over to the local police, who call our teacher and get her to come over with his passport and so forth. He made friends with all the cops while waiting in detention and went out drinking with them a few times. Also two South Korean girls in the same program were doing a shitton of cocaine and got deported. Hooray for Chinese Justice!
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It appears that the Chinese system is unique among the three in that it can and will disappear people completely, without any stated reason.
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Discendo Vox posted:It appears that the Chinese system is unique among the three in that it can and will disappear people completely, without any stated reason. They also have those sweet execution trucks
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Serbia just called for bilateral negotiations only in the South China Sea disputes. In unrelated news, China and Serbia signed a "strategic partnership" deal with a lot of economic aid the same day.
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Arglebargle III posted:Serbia just called for bilateral negotiations only in the South China Sea disputes. In unrelated news, China and Serbia signed a "strategic partnership" deal with a lot of economic aid the same day.  Like this but with Diayou
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Arglebargle III posted:Serbia just called for bilateral negotiations only in the South China Sea disputes. In unrelated news, China and Serbia signed a "strategic partnership" deal with a lot of economic aid the same day. Oh boy with Serbia on board nothing can stop the Chinese
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P-Mack posted:The Japanese justice system is terrible in a qualitative way. The American justice system is terrible in a quantitative way. The Chinese justice system is terrible in a Chinese way. This is no joke a very succinct and accurate summary of the situation.
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Jun 20, 2016 06:51
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it belongs at the start of a book
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Fojar38 posted:Oh boy with Serbia on board nothing can stop the Chinese China is very good at forming a coalition of the willing.
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I will never forgive China for making me actually agree with US interventionism in Asia.
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Ceciltron posted:I will never forgive China for making me actually agree with US interventionism in Asia. the US really should move the Okinawa bases to Taiwan, that's where they should be geographically speaking, they're only in Okinawa because China would go apeshit
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sincx fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Jun 20, 2016 18:55
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icantfindaname posted:the US really should move the Okinawa bases to Taiwan, that's where they should be geographically speaking, they're only in Okinawa because China would go apeshit They're only there because that's where the Japanese government told us to put them, they won't let us put them anywhere else.
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Back Hack posted:They're only there because that's where the Japanese government told us to put them, they won't let us put them anywhere else. The purpose of US military presence in East Asia is to contain China, and that geographic location is crucial because it covers both the East and South China Seas. Moving it to the middle of Japan would make it useless
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Back Hack posted:They're only there because that's where the Japanese government told us to put them, they won't let us put them anywhere else. That must be specifically the Marines, because there are a bunch of US military bases on the Japanese mainland. No one wants Marines hanging around in large numbers. The US is only allowed to have 100 of them in Korea.
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Back Hack posted:They're only there because that's where the Japanese government told us to put them, they won't let us put them anywhere else. It's more that they're there because we didn't give Okinawa and the rest of Ryuku Islands back to Japan until 1972. From the end of the war til then, they were under US military jurisdiction with, after 1952 or so, a minimal level of civilian government underneath.
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icantfindaname posted:the US really should move the Okinawa bases to Taiwan, that's where they should be geographically speaking, they're only in Okinawa because China would go apeshit Why? Okinawa and Taiwan are not very far apart, but Okinawa's position seems to be better. It's a bit to the north but a bit farther out. If anything, I think Taiwan is too close. But really the crux of my argument is please god don't unleash the US Marines on Taiwan. Taiwan is a really awesome place. Let's just sell them more F-16s.
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I knew a bunch of marines when I was in training; they were all from the USMC's top quintile for intelligence, and even they were, at best, a bunch of creepy idiots.
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VideoTapir posted:I knew a bunch of marines when I was in training; they were all from the USMC's top quintile for intelligence, and even they were, at best, a bunch of creepy idiots.
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Plexiwatt posted:You can't just say this and then not tell a story or two about creeping and idiocy. One guy, one of the first off-hand comments he made after I met him was about the gender ratio of the class, phrased something along the lines of "one girl for every guy." Another, one of his hobbies was skulking around the hallways in the Doubletree hotel in the middle of the night. Not really doing anything, just sneaking around.
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icantfindaname posted:the US really should move the Okinawa bases to Taiwan, that's where they should be geographically speaking, they're only in Okinawa because China would go apeshit They could use the old sites of all the bases there from before The Great Betrayal. Isn't the current, much delayed plan still to move the Marines in Okinawa to Guam? Okinawa is too deficient of coconut crabs to give our fighting boys the nutritional edge needed to defeat the hordes of ChiComs that will come over those beachheads. The brown tree snakes will also scare off the PLA invasion.
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The Okinawan protests have less to do with the US base itself and more to do with Okinawa's strained relationship with Tokyo, which it views the US base as a symbol of.
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Fojar38 posted:The Okinawan protests have less to do with the US base itself and more to do with Okinawa's strained relationship with Tokyo, which it views the US base as a symbol of. Did you know the US civil war wasn't about slavery?! Makes you think...
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Wasn't there some evidence the okinawa protests were funded by beijing? I can't remember if it was just floated as a possibility or whether there was convincing evidence suggested.
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sincx fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/asia/taiwan-fires-missile-on-china/index.htmlquote:(CNN)A Taiwanese warship mistakenly launched a supersonic "aircraft carrier killer" missile toward China Friday, hitting a fishing boat and killing the boat's captain in an incident China called "a serious matter."
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As long as the ship isn't named the Archduke Ferdinand or something
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It's a razor thin line between how sensitive the Chinese national feelings are, and how little they give a poo poo about an individual poor fisherman. It's been ~20 years since the last China Straight Crisis, right?
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Well the dead fisherman was Taiwanese so... What is a bit worrying, however, is that this is what the "carrier killer" missile did to a loving fishing boat:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36680899 In HK news, some fresh protests! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36680898 quote:Tens of thousands of protesters have attended an annual pro-democracy march in Hong Kong.
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mobby_6kl posted:Well the dead fisherman was Taiwanese so... It didn't explode 
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I wonder if they disarmed the explosive midflight or if it wasn't armed.
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Ceciltron posted:I wonder if they disarmed the explosive midflight or if it wasn't armed. Made in China
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