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ikanreed posted:hbomberguy did his Sargon video. Sargon's already defending himself.
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Ash Crimson posted:Sargon's already defending himself. Real alphas get insecure about videos about them made by people they designate as "betas".
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Jun 19, 2016 13:06
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ikanreed posted:hbomberguy did his Sargon video. I'm surprised he didn't mention Sargon's amazing debate with a feminist, in which Sargon burned down any and all credibility he managed to build up for himself.
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Jun 19, 2016 14:33
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Archer666 posted:I'm surprised he didn't mention Sargon's amazing debate with a feminist, in which Sargon burned down any and all credibility he managed to build up for himself. You can't just drop that without providing a link. Or a summary if it's longer than 5 minutes or 1 paragraph. 
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Jun 19, 2016 14:35
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Hermetic posted:You can't just drop that without providing a link. It happened a year or two ago when the gamergate mess after the gamergate mess started and Sargon was building himself up as a "smart" guy with the whole DiGRA thing. So the guy had a livestream along with some other guy when Jenni Goodchild sent a message if she could join in for a talk, so they let her in. Not entirely sure who she is, but she's a feminist and critical of the whole gamergate thing. So they started to debate. This resultated in a 1.5 hour clusterfuck. They talked and Jenni asked logical questions about his ideas, gamergate and his view on feminism. He couldn't answer anything, gave 5 different answers about what gamergate is(Until he broke down and fumed about how its to get rid of feminists from gaming, paraphrasing) and generally made himself look incompetent. Also what questions he did answer, he couldn't back up with sources beyond saying "Go google it". And of course, afterwards he talked poo poo about her on twitter. This is a quick summary, but I really do suggest checking it out for yourself. It alternates between hilarious and  "Did he really say that? Is this what he really believes?". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNAwHrTowO0&t=5533s
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Jun 19, 2016 15:00
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It's a 2 hour or so livestream video where he argues with a woman and time and time again she cuts through their arguments and leave him just repeating "that is incorrect" over and over again without actually showing how she was incorrect. Later on he made a tweet or comment along the line of "we weren't prepared to have someone who knew what they were taking about" which became a rallying laugh for us regressive leftists.
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Archer666 posted:It happened a year or two ago when the gamergate mess after the gamergate mess started and Sargon was building himself up as a "smart" guy with the whole DiGRA thing. So the guy had a livestream along with some other guy when Jenni Goodchild sent a message if she could join in for a talk, so they let her in. Not entirely sure who she is, but she's a feminist and critical of the whole gamergate thing. So they started to debate. There was another time more recently where he willingly entered into a formalized debate with a feminist professor. The results... Were not pretty. She kicked him to the curb
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Jun 19, 2016 16:33
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DarklyDreaming posted:There was another time more recently where he willingly entered into a formalized debate with a feminist professor. Oh man, I love Dr Winters addresses the question in her 10 minute introduction, aka "Is Feminism good for the world?" and actually comes in under time despite having a longer thank-you to the participants. and then Carlgon is about 5-6 minutes in on his bit and he has not addressed the question once, just whined about how 'liberals' are more likely to block people on Facebook so studies of Facebook users are biased... my god this is going to be amazing
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Jun 19, 2016 16:59
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Hahaha he finished his bit having just said "social sciences aren't reliable" and Dr Winters just goes "uhhh, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to provide a rebuttal to someone who didn't answer the question" edit: to stop spamming the thread with every new bit but hahaha 33 minutes in and he hasn't addressed feminism being good for the world once, just whined about straw feminists and tumblr Tesseraction has a new favorite as of 17:24 on Jun 19, 2016 |
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Jun 19, 2016 17:04
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It's always the funniest thing when these guys enter debates with social scientists. At some point you'd think a bunch of rationalists would realize that they're the equivalent of Young Earth Creationists. "Your journals and colleges are incorrect because of my feelings."
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Jun 19, 2016 20:16
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Razorwired posted:It's always the funniest thing when these guys enter debates with social scientists. At some point you'd think a bunch of rationalists would realize that they're the equivalent of Young Earth Creationists. I've always imagined that the thought process goes thus: "I am logical and rational because I believe in ('hard') science." → "I must be emotionally detached from the world because of this.." → "If something makes me angry, it must be objectively wrong." → "My feels are actual reals." Though, maybe I'm putting too much thought into it, and it's basically just "I was never told 'no' as a child, so I believe I am special and beyond reproach." Either way, it's a hosed up thought process.
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Jun 19, 2016 21:25
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Sargon of Akkad showed up on Hbomberguy's video to literally prove that he has the attention span of a gold fish.
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Jun 19, 2016 22:05
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DarklyDreaming posted:There was another time more recently where he willingly entered into a formalized debate with a feminist professor. Welcome to our formal debate here in front of our anime poster wall
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Jun 20, 2016 00:17
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Heath posted:Welcome to our formal debate here in front of our anime poster wall Tell us more about how rational you are.
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Jun 20, 2016 00:41
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A White Guy posted:Sargon of Akkad showed up on Hbomberguy's video to literally prove that he has the attention span of a gold fish. He's their best guy too, and he's just a conman who knows how to look like he's done his homework in a video. You don't even need to work hard to disprove him. Hbomberguy you are doing great work.
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Jun 20, 2016 01:12
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Tesseraction posted:Tell us more about how rational you are. At least the actually credentialed professor's room is tasteful
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Jun 20, 2016 01:18
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http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/06/17/against-dog-whistles/ Noted dog whistle fan Scott Alexander defends dog whistling against shrill thuggish cultural Marxists
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Jun 20, 2016 03:56
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Oh yes, it was totally Ted Cruz being against New York values that is the canonical example dog whistling. Not things like "thug" or "illegals". edit: yes, that is the best filter
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Jun 20, 2016 04:02
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Tesseraction posted:Tell us more about how rational you are. There is objectively nothing more rational than making fun of anime wall scrolls.
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Jun 20, 2016 04:04
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The Vosgian Beast posted:http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/06/17/against-dog-whistles/ Noted dog whistle fan Scott Alexander defends dog whistling against shrill thuggish cultural Marxists In which Scott Alexander takes insipid contrarianism to the limit by complaining about people calling Donald Trump sexist.
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Jun 20, 2016 13:53
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Heath posted:At least the actually credentialed professor's room is tasteful I liked how Carlgon blatantly showed his broadcasting studio is just a slightly less cheeto-dust stained portion of his bedroom. Life success. Who What Now posted:There is objectively nothing more rational than making fun of anime wall scrolls. Ghost in the Shell is a perfectly fine one to like.  Anime is embarrassing as a medium but GitS is one of the few that is okay to like. Apart from the writer adding "and then the Major took off all her clothes" into one scene and then copy pasting that into random parts of the movie.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:11
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Skittle Prickle posted:In which Scott Alexander takes insipid contrarianism to the limit by complaining about people calling Donald Trump sexist. The only kind of social oppression Scott believes in, the only one that individuals can reify and cause Actual Harm to Society, is people throwing around the terms "sexist" and "racist" in his vicinity. I wonder why it bothers him so.
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Sax Solo posted:The only kind of social oppression Scott believes in, the only one that individuals can reify and cause Actual Harm to Society, is people throwing around the terms "sexist" and "racist" in his vicinity. I wonder why it bothers him so. He has a backstory about some drama in college where he got called a racist, and he has just never gotten over it.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:20
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Tesseraction posted:Ghost in the Shell is a perfectly fine one to like. Yes, but if you have a wallscroll of it, then something has gone tragically wrong with your life.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:21
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Hermetic posted:Yes, but if you have a wallscroll of it, then something has gone tragically wrong with your life. I was more interested in why he appears to broadcast from a broom closet beneath the train tracks.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:31
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The Vosgian Beast posted:He has a backstory about some drama in college where he got called a racist, and he has just never gotten over it. It's like he's sensitive to being called a mean word or something.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:41
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I like how accusing Megyn Kelly of being on her period and therefore being stressy at the Republican debate is apparently not at all sexist in the mind of Scotty Boy.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:51
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Only about one third of all feminists aren't hysterical broads according to Scotty Boy.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/06/17/against-dog-whistles/ Noted dog whistle fan Scott Alexander defends dog whistling against shrill thuggish cultural Marxists He even got the joke wrong. It's supposed to end with the guy saying a low number and nobody laughing and him asking why, then the bartender says, "boy, some people just don't know how to tell a joke!" Also that guy seems really worried about the exact line somebody has to cross to actually be a bigot vs just being stupid and arrogant. I wonder why.
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Funny thing is that the first time I heard of this guy it was because someone linked to an extensive rebuttal he wrote of neoreactionary arguments. But there was a weird vibe to them. It wasn't just the "sane 30% of feminists" thing. It was the application of that comment: the idea (iirc) that if neoreactionaries could dial it down a bit then maybe they could work together with this minority of sane feminists to tackle this whole "sluts spreading venereal diseases" thing. Like what. There was this overall tone that the people spouting this poo poo were factually wrong but hey maybe they have some points and are worth a fair hearing, maybe they can be worked with. Very "fair-minded."
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Jun 20, 2016 16:47
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Jack Gladney posted:He even got the joke wrong. It's supposed to end with the guy saying a low number and nobody laughing and him asking why, then the bartender says, "boy, some people just don't know how to tell a joke!" I also like that he cites an old NYT article on Hitler that mirrors what he himself has said about NeoReactionaries.
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quote:If Trump thinks women aren’t attractive without big breasts, then His Kink Is Not My Kink But His Kink Is Okay. If Trump is dumb enough to say out loud that he thinks women aren’t attractive without big breasts, that says certain things about his public relations ability and his dignity-or-lack-thereof, but it sounds like it requires a lot more steps to suggest he is a bad person, or would have an anti-woman administration, or anything that we should actually care about.
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If Donald Trump is scoring women like cattle, that's not sexist, says adult man without any sense of contemplation.
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What does it take for Scott Alexander to actually think something is sexist or racist?
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Jun 20, 2016 18:01
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Grenrow posted:What does it take for Scott Alexander to actually think something is sexist or racist? Generally the rule is you have to say "I hate so-and-so solely because she has two x chromosomes and for no other reason, including any traits that may be stereotypically associated with having two x chromosomes" and also be someone he personally dislikes anyway. Alternatively, if you support something that is associated with feminism you have a 70% shot at being sexist right off the bat.
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Jun 20, 2016 18:23
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Goon Danton posted:Generally the rule is you have to say "I hate so-and-so solely because she has two x chromosomes and for no other reason, including any traits that may be stereotypically associated with having two x chromosomes" and also be someone he personally dislikes anyway. This sounds like a quote from a rulebook belonging to the groggiest RPG ever.
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Jun 20, 2016 18:45
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Grenrow posted:What does it take for Scott Alexander to actually think something is sexist or racist? Be a purely historical example everyone already agrees on.
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Goon Danton posted:Generally the rule is you have to say "I hate so-and-so solely because she has two x chromosomes and for no other reason, including any traits that may be stereotypically associated with having two x chromosomes" and also be someone he personally dislikes anyway. Even if you do something like that, all you need is to get chummy with Scott or a bunch of postrats and all is forgiven. In fact, Scott would probably come around to defend you.
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Fututor Magnus posted:Even if you do something like that, all you need is to get chummy with Scott or a bunch of postrats and all is forgiven. In fact, Scott would probably come around to defend you. Say what you will about Oswald Mosley, but those rationalfics he wrote about Fallout were aces.
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Lady Naga posted:This sounds like a quote from a rulebook belonging to the groggiest RPG ever. I cast the 3rd-level Logical Law "Detect Wrongthink"
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