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Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

GlyphGryph posted:

Should we just have someone else take over the thread? We're so behind at this point that I'd be willing to bang out a few elections right quick. Wouldn't be nearly as good at them, but hey, we've still got a lot of history to go so...

Quo's write-ups are main draw for me, though.

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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Lycus posted:

Quo's write-ups are main draw for me, though.

Same

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
cleveland rocks

SoggyBobcat
Oct 2, 2013

Free QuoProQuid.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
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:toxx: I'll have a write-up on the next election done by midnight Sunday.

I've admittedly been distracted with other projects and real-world events and had to push this thread off to the side for a bit. I can't guarantee that this thread will get to 2000 but I'll give a warning when I'm done instead of disappearing into the ether.

Harold Stassen posted:

cleveland rocks

it does. i'm hoping my hometown doesnt burn down

SpRahl
Apr 22, 2008
Well no matter how far you get this has been an amazing thread.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


I recently wound up binging through those whole thread, I'm so glad it's apparently kicking off again!

And looking at the thoroughly insane alternate timeline Goons have wrought.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
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Thank you for voting. After a tight three-way election, Benjamin Harrison has succeeded in reclaiming the White House for the Republican Party. Speaking to the country on its centennial election, Harrison has promised to return the values of its first president: His Elective Majesty President of the United States of America and Protector of their Liberties, John Adams. Harrison swears to eliminate corruption, protect American industry, and restore confidence in the country.

When asked about Harrison's speech, the newly elected Vice-President Levi P. Morton reportedly said, “If he says so,” and “I guess.” After being asked about his role in Harrison's cabinet, officials report that he laughed and walked away.

MOST POPULAR TICKET:

Benjamin Harrison / Levi P. Morton (Republican) - 41.9% (31 votes)
Alson Streeter / Charles E. Cunningham (Union Labor) - 31.1% (23 votes)
Clinton B. Fisk / John A. Brooks (Prohibition) - 24.3% (18 votes)
Grover Cleveland / Allen G. Thurman(Democratic) 2.7% (2 votes)
TOTAL: 74 votes

QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 16:21 on Jul 24, 2016

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
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ELECTION OF 1892

:siren: Click here to vote in the Election of 1892! :siren:




Background:

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison became the country’s centennial president. To commemorate the event, the President-elect recreated George Washington’s inauguration in New York City and presided over a three-day nationwide celebration. Harrison spoke broadly about the promise of the next century and the need to put country first. The country had suffered considerably from the Long Depression and Depression of 1882 and it would take resolve to move forward. When the celebrations died down, Harrison and his wife, Caroline, made their way to the White House.

Immediately after assuming office, Benjamin Harrison started stepping on toes. Always distrustful of the Republican Party’s bosses, Harrison made efforts to exclude them from his administration. Blaine, a power unto himself and former nominee, found his nomination as Secretary of State repeated delayed. Though Harrison had avoided making deals during his campaign, his campaign had promised power and prestige to various Republicans in exchange for support. When these failed to happen, many thought Harrison was betraying them. These beliefs were further hardened by an apparent bribe from Harrison’s Postmaster-General, an allegation that Harrison denied.

The Harrison presidency further soured due to its tone deaf response to economic concerns. In the wake of recent depressions, many Americans had called for expansive regulation and reform. Harrison, a long-time protectionist, responded by instituting the highest protective tariff in the country’s history through the McKinley Tariff Act of 1890. Tariff rates increased almost 50 percent in the space of a few months. The bill also gave the president enormous power in foreign trade, such as the ability to conduct trade conventions and negotiate agreements without congressional oversight, but workers saw the price of goods increase dramatically. Worse, the President convinced Congress to pass its first billion-dollar budget. While the budget included an expansion of veterans’ benefits and conservationism, it reinforced a belief that the President was spending excessively and interested only in wealthy party interests.

Other campaign promises failed to make much impact. Harrison had promised to regulate and break-up the trusts and supporter the Sherman Antitrust Act to achieve that goal. Unfortunately, the bill’s language was too vague to enforce and its penalties too weak to deter any industrial giants. Harrison had promised protections for African Americans, but the Justice Department was slow to order prosecutions for voter intimidation and juries across the South refused to convict possible offenders. A bill meant to address these issues, the Lodge Bill, failed to pass the Senate (partly due to sabotage from his Vice-President). Harrison had promised to bridge hard and soft money supporters but his compromise, which allowed for free coinage of silver but not at a fixed ratio, inflamed both factions against him. Harrison’s attempts to formalize civil service reform caused several appointees to actively sabotage their administrations. Harrison was extremely successful in foreign affairs, successfully negotiating with Germany and the United Kingdom to allow for an American protectorate in the Samoan Islands and stopping British over-harvesting of seals, but few people noticed those changes. The First International Conference of American States, which had its first meeting in Washington, D.C., went unnoticed by most of the country as did Harrison’s attempts to build a canal in Nicaragua.

Many joked that the only successful person in Harrison’s administration was his wife, First Lady Caroline. When she had arrived in the White House, she had found it cramped, falling apart, and infested with rodents. Under her supervision, the White House was extensively remodeled and installed with the latest technologies.

Against this backdrop, Harrison became one of the first sitting presidents to suffer through a contested convention. James Blaine organized a “dump-Harrison” movement that only failed when the movement was unable to find an alternative candidate. Worse, the Democrats had decided to nominate the increasingly popular President Grover Cleveland. The Republicans were also forced to deal with almost unprecedented support for a third party. Made up of reformers and Midwestern farmers, the People’s Party entered the political fray with an aggressively populist campaign. Its nominee promised an end to Harrison’s half-measures and announced his intent to actively campaign. Breaking with precedent, Weaver announced he would “visit every state in the Union and carry the banner of the people into the enemy’s camp.” Both Harrison and Cleveland have been trying their best to ignore the populists.

As a final twist of the knife, Harrison’s beloved wife, Caroline, died two weeks before the general election. Caroline had always had poor health but had accompanied her husband on all his travels, often serving as his sole ally. During a visit to California, Caroline caught tuberculosis. She spent six months as an invalid before finally succumbing to illness.

REPUBLICAN PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: Benjamin Harrison
  • Party Affiliation: Republican Party
  • Home State: Indiana
  • Notable Positions: United States Senator from Indiana, Brevet Brigadier General in the Union Army
  • Biography: Benjamin Harrison was born in 1833, the grandson of the much-forgotten William Henry Harrison. While the Harrisons enjoyed prominence in their home state of Indiana, Benjamin Harrison had early aspirations for greatness. He did not just want to be a senator or governor, he wanted to be President of the United States. He became a diligent student and astute public speaker. After graduating from Miami University, Harrison opened his own law practice and became involved in the local Republican Party. In 1862, Harrison joined the Union Army where he eventually attained the rank of brevet brigadier general. Using his war experience as a springboard, Harrison became a powerful power broker within the Republican Party and was largely responsible for the nomination of James Garfield. In 1880, the Indiana legislature named him to the Senate, where he enjoyed considerable prominence. After Grover Cleveland vetoed one of his pension bills, Harrison set out to dethrone him. While Harrison is well-known and extremely successful, he is not considered to be charismatic. Privately, many consider him cold and mechanical. He has earned the nick-name, “the human iceberg.”
  • Platform: Benjamin Harrison is a moderate Republican who supports slow, gradual change over sudden, massive reforms. At the center of his campaign is the tariff issue. Unlike Cleveland, who has advocated for a policy of free trade, Harrison thinks that tariffs should be enlarged and expanded to protect industry, improve the wages of workers, and fuel federal revenue. He has made the McKinley Tariff, the largest tariff in the country’s history, a centerpiece of this campaign. Harrison has stated that he wants to use tariff revenue to replace sales taxes on things like alcohol and tobacco, which unfairly burden certain segments of the population. He also wants to use the new revenue to address major social issues, like guaranteeing pensions for veterans and their dependents, protecting African Americans from Southern harassment, and guaranteeing all African Americans access to federal education. While Harrison is in favor of both gold and silver as money, the Republican Party has swung against silver. Harrison has been forced to embrace hard money policies. Harrison wants to counteract the growing influence of the railroads and possibly reserve large tracts of land for federal use, but has not stated how he would like to accomplish this goal. In international affairs, Harrison sees the United States as a rising power, one that must counteract British imperialism. In his unusual hostility towards the British, Harrison wants to expand and modernize the navy and expand American influence into the Pacific and Latin America. He is particularly interested in Hawaii, which is increasingly controlled by American businessmen. Harrison opposes restrictions on immigrants, but is unwilling to expend significant political capital opposing it. With his presidency falling apart, he believes that he needs to pick his battles carefully.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: Whitelaw Reid
  • Party Affiliation: Republican Party
  • Home State: New York
  • Notable Positions: United States Ambassador to France, Diplomat to the United Kingdom, Editor of the New York Tribune, Editor of the Washington Tribune
  • Biography: Reid was born in 1837 on a farm near Xenia, Ohio. The scion of a prominent local family, Reid studied at Miami University and graduated with honors. Though he intended to go into a career in law, Reid’s trajectory was altered by the outbreak of the American Civil War. Instead of becoming a lawyer, Reid became a wartime correspondent for the Washington Tribune. Through his close friendship with Horace Greeley, Reid quickly rose through the industry ranks, becoming the Washington Tribune’s managing editor before succeeding Greenley as the editor of the New York Tribune. In 1869, Whitelaw was able to further accelerate his career by marrying the daughter of a California millionaire who rewarded Reid with a diplomatic post in the United Kingdom. His successes and connections with the Republican Party helped him become Ambassador to France in 1889. He has kept the position ever since. He is a multimillionaire.
  • Platform: Whitelaw Reid is a business Republican, excited by the technological opportunities of the upcoming century but afraid of the growing rabble. As editor of the New York and Washington Tribune, Reid invested significant capital in new inventions to increase safety and productivity. He also fought hard against his workers’ attempts to unionize. He also believes that “the rights of the black man… [are] forever settled.” Though some have called him heartless, Reid argues that, “the age of the sentimental in politics [has passed]... Questions of God-given rights had made way for others having to do with the tariff on pig iron and with the rates of mileage,” not worker’s or civil rights. Like his running mate, Whitelaw supports tariffs to raise revenue and protect industry. He opposes the inflationary policies once advocated by the Greenbacks. In foreign policy, Reid is a nationalist and a jingoist. After Spain executed several American sailors during the Virginius Affair, the Tribune beat the war drum and claimed that the deaths necessitated “the death knell of Spanish power in America.” He believes that the United States should focus its influence on the Americas and on Hawaii, whose acquisition can preserve American power. He is a first-amendment absolutist and opposes all restrictions on the press.


DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: Grover Cleveland
  • Party Affiliation: Democratic Party
  • Home State: New York
  • Notable Positions: Governor of New York, Mayor of Buffalo, New York, Sheriff of Erie County, New York
  • Biography: Grover Cleveland was born in Caldwell, New Jersey to a poor Reverend. Spending most of his childhood in central New York, where his father ministered, Cleveland had no opportunity to attend college and instead worked constantly to support his family. Though he would never attend college, he would pass the New York bar at twenty-two through sheer force of will. Cleveland was able to evade the draft during the Civil War by hiring a substitute, a decision that would advance his career in the short-run but haunt him long-term. He would be elected Sheriff of Erie County in 1870 where he cultivated a reputation as a non-partisan reformer, who nonetheless took pleasure in food, alcohol, and the like. After elected to be Mayor of Buffalo, New York, Cleveland exposed rampant corruption in his own party and oversaw a complete restructuring of Buffalo’s city government. Seeing the advantages of running an upright urban reformer against an increasingly corrupt Republican Party, the New York Republican Party nominated him for the governorship in New York. There, he vetoed what he saw as extravagant legislation intended to benefit special interest groups. He worked with local reformers in New York City to destroy Tammany Hall and gained a reputation as the hardest working politician in New York government, frequently working late hours. As a candidate for President, the Democrats have emphasized Cleveland’s status as a political outsider, a reformer, and a man of integrity. Despite recent allegations about his behavior as sheriff, Cleveland is widely perceived as a man of integrity.
  • Platform: Cleveland is a staunch political and social conservative who views the President’s role as one of a distant overseer. The President should ensure that the government is honest and effective. For this election, however, Cleveland has pushed those views aside. In his State of the Union address for 1887, Cleveland argued that American tariffs were too high and stifled the growth of the American economy. He has, thus, made free trade the centerpiece of his campaign and urged the American public to remove its restrictions on international markets so that foreign countries might reduce their tariffs in kind. He has reminded Americans that the United States is already a low-cost producer and that its current tariffs make little economic sense. The McKinley Tariff, Cleveland argues, is dangerous as it artificially inflates the cost of domestic goods and hurts American consumers. He has promised to do everything in his power to repeal this legislation. Once the United States has benefited from lowering tariffs, Cleveland promises to establish a distant, “hands-off” government. He would like to remove “all unnecessary taxation” and has spent his presidency eliminating wasteful federal spending. Cleveland thinks that the National Treasury has gained an alarmingly large surplus that needs to be reduced. He strongly opposes immigration from “servile races” like the Chinese and wants to increase restrictions on Asian immigration lest they steal American jobs. In an executive order, Cleveland ordered the Union Army to return all captured Confederate battle flags to their home states. The order endeared the South but enraged the powerful Grand Army of the Republic, forcing Cleveland to rescind the order.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: Adlai Stevenson
  • Party Affiliation: Democratic Party
  • Home State: Illinois
  • Notable Positions: United States Representative from Illinois, Assistant Postmaster General
  • Biography: Adlai Stevenson grew up on a small slave-owning tobacco plantation. After a harsh winter killed his family’s crop, Stevenson’s disgusted father sold his slaves and moved to Illinois to open a sawmill. Despite this early dislocation, Adlai Stevenson had a happy life. He attended Illinois Wesleyan University and Centre College before taking over his father’s sawmill. At the age of 23, he passed the bar exam and became a lawyer. As Stevenson transitioned into his new career, he had an unfortunate encounter with a young Abraham Lincoln, who used the meeting to mercilessly mock Stevenson. Despite this encounter, Stevenson would later support the Union during the Civil War and used the chaos to gain political office. In 1874, Stevenson used his influence in the Democratic Party, Republican Party, Independent Reform Party, and the Illinois Freemasons to secure a nomination to the United States House of Representatives. For the next few years, Stevenson would serve discontinuous terms, alternately losing and winning elections until gerrymandering made his district Republican. Trapped, Stevenson accepted a position in the Cleveland administration as assistant postmaster general. The position placed Stevenson in control of the country’s largest and most sophisticated patronage network, which he then purged of all his political opponents and replaced with friendly Democrats. As revenge for the maneuver, Republicans in the Senate refused to confirm Stevenson for a position on the District of Columbia Supreme Court.
  • Platform: Stevenson was selected on the first ballot to balance out Cleveland’s perceived weaknesses. Whereas Cleveland is a Northerner, Stevenson is an ardent supporter of the South. He has earned its support for opposing the Lodge Bill, a bill that would have allowed the federal government to protect Southern blacks and ensure the fairness of elections. Stevenson also softens Cleveland’s hard money, no-nonsense monetary policies. In contrast to his running mate, Stevenson spent much of his career supporting greenbacks and populist reform efforts. He believes that restricting the money supply is harmful to the poor and the economy at-large. He also supports certain welfare programs to help those left behind by recent economic progress. Nonetheless, Stevenson is seen as extremely corrupt and a symbol of the spoils system. He has frequently sponsored the political ambitions of his supporters without personally knowing their abilities or qualifications. As assistant postmaster general, he increased Democratic authority at the cost of departmental efficiency. Stevenson has no particular foreign policy positions but he is believed to be extremely cautious and hesitant to involve U.S. forces abroad. He is known for being very courteous and charismatic in person but has failed to gain the respect of his running mate. Cleveland has signalled that he would effectively ignore Stevenson if elected.


PEOPLE’S PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: James B. Weaver
  • Party Affiliation: People’s Party
  • Home State: Iowa
  • Notable Positions: United States Representative from Iowa, Brevet Brigadier-General in the Union Army
  • Biography: James B. Weaver is an agrarian activist and radical. Born in Ohio, Weaver’s family took advantage of the Homestead Act to move out to the Iowa Territory. While initially happy with their new land, Weaver’s family became increasingly unhappy by wealthy landowners who seized land around them. Over the next few years, Weaver took several different professions to protect himself. He read law. He drove cattle from Iowa to Sacramento, California. He prospected gold, sailed to Panama, and ran a small store. By 1856, Weaver’s experiences led him to reject slavery and he joined the newly formed Republican Party. Known for his adventurism, Weaver became a staple of Iowa’s Republican Party and frequently gave speeches across the state in support of anti-slavery Republicans. Naturally, after the Confederate attack on Fort Sumter, Weaver enlisted in the Union Army and participated in major battles at Shiloh and Corinth as well as Major General Sherman’s March Through Georgia. After the war’s end, Weaver gained several minor positions in the federal government before receiving the Republican nomination for Congress. After his loss and the Panic of 1873, Weaver grew disenchanted with the Republicans and joined the Greenbacks. He briefly served as one of the country’s few third-party congressman and was a presidential candidate in 1880.
  • Platform: James Weaver has been planning another run for President for a long time, convinced that the country is ready for a populist revolution against the “few haughty millionaires who are gathering up the riches of the world.” When the People Party’s founder, Leonidas L. Polk, conveniently died, Weaver got his second-chance. Styling himself as a man of the common people, Weaver has embraced a series of expansive reforms that attack elite power. Weaver has called for a graduated income tax modelled on Abraham Lincoln’s Revenue Act of 1864, which Congress let expire in 1873. Weaver also supports the unlimited coinage of silver, a proposal that would allow any citizen to sell silver to the federal government in exchange for gold. Believing transportation and communication to be matters of “public necessity,” Weaver has also called for the nationalization of all telephone, telegraph, and railroad companies. He also demands that the government break up all land monopolies and distribute land grants held “in excess of their actual need.” All property held by foreigners and aliens should also be repossessed by the government. He opposes all subsidies, believing that the money should instead be redistributed to the people, and the Pinkerton system, which he believes to be a mercenary force of elites. On social issues, Weaver has called for a universal private ballot to prevent voter intimidation. He has also called for a constitutional amendment to allow national referendums on any issue, a constitutional amendment limiting the President and Vice-President to one-term in office, and a constitutional amendment requiring the direct election of Senators. Weaver does not support Chinese immigration and believes that their importation is degrading and brutalizing American labor. He has expressed some sympathy for prohibition, but has removed all references to it from his campaign.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: James Gavin Field
  • Party Affiliation: People’s Party
  • Home State: Virginia
  • Notable Positions: Attorney-General of Virginia
  • Biography: James Gavin Field was born in 1826 to Lewis and Maria Field in Culpeper County, Virginia. There, he lived an uneventful life. He received a classical education, worked at a local store, and taught school. When the Mexican-American War broke out, Field left home for California, where he served as a pay clerk in the United States Army and helped assemble California’s constitutional convention. After returning home with considerable wealth and experience, he was admitted to the bar and married. In 1860, Field, a small plantation and slave owner, enthusiastically supported the Confederacy. He volunteered for service and was regularly promoted, partially due to familial connections and politics and partially due to his good record. At the Battle of Cedar Mountain, Field suffered severe injuries and lost his left leg below the knee. He was present at Appomattox Court House and witnessed the surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia. After the war, Field returned to his plantation and tried to reassemble his life. He enjoyed moderate success representing Culpeper County against the railroads and earned a distinguished reputation. Following the death of the Virginia Attorney General and a general backlash against the Democratic and Republican parties, Field found himself the Conservative Party’s unlikely nominee for Attorney General. He was successfully appointed shortly before the Conservative Party itself collapsed into squabbling. He is currently a member of various agricultural reform groups and perennially under consideration for a seat in the United States Senate.
  • Platform: Field is a former member of Virginia’s Conservative Party, a state-centric party that appeared in opposition to Virginia’s radical Republican reformers. Seeking to represent the interests of poor white voters, the Conservatives opposed the enfranchisement of both African American men and former Confederate leaders. In 1879, Field argued before the United States Supreme Court in Ex Parte Virginia that Congress could not force states to include African Americans on trial juries. He is a segregationist. Field is concerned about Virginia’s poor and helped establish the state’s free public school system. He also pushed the state to sell its stock in the railroads to reduce corruption, pay Virginia’s large public debts, and promote public works. The plan would have also guaranteed a pension to every veteran’s family, both Union and Confederate. The plan’s failure hastened the Conservative Party’s demise. During the 1870s, Field joined several agricultural reform groups that advocated for regulation or nationalization of the railroad system and increased coinage of silver. Field was on good terms with former “Readjusters,” a Virginian political faction that viewed public debt as a threat to state programs and seeks any means to reduce it. Field is deeply suspicious of immigrants and supports a radical, populist interpretation of the Bible. He has notably told people to “read your Bibles Sunday and the Omaha platform every day in the week.” Field has no known views on foreign policy.

PROHIBITION PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: John Bidwell
  • Party Affiliation: Prohibition Party
  • Home State: California
  • Notable Positions: United States Representative from California, Member of the California Senate, Brigadier-General in the United States Army
  • Biography: John Bidwell is a folk hero in certain parts of the country. Bidwell was born in 1829 to a small, moderately wealthy family. In 1841, Bidwell became one of the first Americans to travel along the California Trail in hopes that it might one day become a state. There, Bidwell achieved significant success. He became the business manager to John Sutter, the man who sparked the gold rush, and discovered a large amount of gold himself before other settlers could arrive. When the United States declared war on Mexico, Bidwell joined in, briefly abandoning his large ranch and his wealth. He attained the rank of major and, when he returned, he served in the California Senate and supervised the territory’s first census. In 1865, Bidwell led efforts to protect settlers from the Native American tribes. He oversaw the United States Army’s construction of seven forts near the Owhyhee Mines, which were later used during the Snake War with the tribes there. In 1868, Bidwell settled down and married the famed socialite Annie Kennedy. The two are an impressive power couple. They spend most of their time hosting parties for prominent politicians, including Presidents Grant and Hayes, Governor Leland Stanford, and William T. Sherman, where they try to convince them to support women’s suffrage, civil rights, and prohibition.
  • Platform: Bidwell, as one might expect, supports the immediate suppression and destruction of all alcoholic products. Alcohol is the root cause of poverty, crime, domestic abuse, and corruption and must be immediately destroyed to prevent the country from collapsing. Bidwell will exert every effort in banning alcohol at the local, state, and federal level. Bidwell supports other social reforms as well. He goes beyond mainstream suffragism and believes that women should receive equal pay and equal political power in society. He supports a federally-mandated “day of rest” at least once each week. He also supports abolishing the trial court system, as they are nothing more than “mob rule.” In its place, Bidwell would settle all disputes by arbitration, as established by a formal tribunal of experts. Lastly, Bidwell would suppress non-English languages and expand all immigration laws. He believes that the country is being overrun with immigrants and that naturalized citizens should wait one year before being allowed to vote. Bidwell supports universal education and wants stop all appropriates towards sectarian (Catholic) schools. On economic issues, Bidwell embraces much of the same populist rhetoric as the People’s Party. He would nationalize all railroad, telegraph, and utility companies if elected President and levy tariffs to protect American business.Bidwell would also order the Treasury to establish money consisting of “gold, silver, and paper” whose value would be set by a per capita sum. He supports limits on the amount of land that can be owned by private companies. As one might expect, Bidwell loathes the two-party system and has promised to tear them down if elected.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: James Cranfield
  • Party Affiliation: Prohibition Party
  • Home State: Texas
  • Notable Positions: Minister
  • Biography: James Cranfield is a Texan lawyer and minister.
  • Platform: Cranfield’s political positions are not well-known. He likely supports his running mate’s policy positions.


SOCIALIST LABOR PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: Simon Wing
  • Party Affiliation: Socialist Labor
  • Home State: Massachusetts
  • Notable Positions: Inventor of the “Simon Wing” multiplying camera
  • Biography: Simon Wing is a photographer and inventor best-known for inventing the “Simon Wing” multiplying camera. He was born in rural St. Albans, Maine in 1826. The environment sparked a lifelong interest in photography. He became known for his photographs of the mountains and, in 1846, he and a close friend opened a small photography shop. After obtaining local success, he moved to Boston and opened a small shop on Washington Street. His innovative ideas and designs allowed him to open and operate a small chain of 20 camera shops scattered across New England. After reading several works by Marx, Wing became invested in socialism. He has used his moderate financial success to fund the Socialist Labor ticket in five states.
  • Platform: Simon Wing is an obscure leader who owes his political status to the utopian author Edward Bellamy. Wing and Bellamy recognize that they have no chance of winning, but hope to inspire some middle-class intellectuals to pursue reforms. For Bellamy, that means abandoning the notion of competition and establishing government-run collectives. For Wing, that means popularizing Karl Marx. Wing’s positions are steeped in the language of Karl Marx and hyper-populism. Wing advocates for the abolition of the Presidency and Vice-Presidency, and wants to replace the Congress with a kind of “worker’s council.” Wing proposes abolishing federalism, abolishing the Senate, abolishing the public ballot, and abolishing all voting restrictions based on gender and race. He would introduce constitutional reforms to allow "the people the right to propose laws and vote upon all measures of importance, according to referendum.” He would also allow any recall elections for any person in the national government. On economic issues, Wing would nationalize all forms of transportation and communication. He would also repeal all land grants and take control of all national corporations. Wing would allow cities to seize all, “local railroads, ferries, water works, gas works, electric plants and all industries.” Wing would guarantee employment of all people through government and pass safety laws to promote public health. He supports laws that would abolish child labor and would require children to attend school until age 14. Wing also supports abolishing trademarks and copyrights.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: Charles Matchett
  • Party Affiliation:Socialist Labor
  • Home State: New York
  • Notable Positions: Organizer in the American Branch No. 1 of Section New York of the Socialist Labor Party of America
  • Biography: Charles Matchett is a familiar figure within socialist circles. Born in 1843 in Massachusetts, Matchett can trace his lineage back to the colonial settlers of the 1600s. Unfortunately, Matchett was not able to benefit from these ties like many politicians and spent much of his life doing grueling work. At 16, he became a sailor, travelling with both private firms and the United States Navy. He has worked as a store clerk, a carpenter, and a beer bottler. In 1890, Matchett was introduced to Karl Marx and was immediately enamored. He is an organizer and activist within the Socialist Labor Party of America.
  • Platform: Matchett is less a middle-class intellectual than a working-class revolutionary. While he supports Bellamy and Wing, he is more attracted to mobilizing the working class to “throw off the shackles of capitalist slavery.” He believes that the government should take control of all means of production and distribution and should guarantee each man a job. He supports abolishing all hierarchies, including the offices of President and Vice-President. On all other matters, he endorses the party’s platform and his running mate’s positions.

QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 16:20 on Jul 24, 2016

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
looks like we didn't need to wait for debs after all

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
Well if you do have to give this thread up, it'll be fitting if that coincides with full communism in America and the end of history.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
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An ad published by the Socialist Labor Party in 1891. It is entitled History of the Wheel and Alliance and the Impending Revolution:

quote:

Laboring men of America! The voice of Patrick Henry and the fathers of American Independence rings don through the corridors of time and tells you to strike. Not with glittering muskets, flaming sword, and deadly cannon; but with the silent, potent, and all-powerful ballot, the only vestige of liberty left. Strike from yourselves the shackles of party slavery, and exercise independent manhood.

Strike at the foundation of the evils which are threatening the existence of the Republic.

Strike for yourselves, your families, your fellow man, your country, and your God.

Strike from the face of the land the monopolies and combinations that are eating out the heart of the Nation.

Let the manhood of the Nation rise up in defense of liberty, justice, and equality. Let the battle go on until all the people, from North to South and East to West, shall join in one loud acclaim, "Victory is ours, and the people are free!

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd
Only one, true, clear choice.

Let Marxism-Wingism be born! :ussr:

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

it's time

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Under wise goon guidance, America will be running comintern by the turn of the century.

just rust
Oct 23, 2012

Interested in hearing the Honorable Whitelaw Reid's opinions on the state of video games journalism.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
"Another election filled with bad candidates who all have something that makes them unelecta.................................... oh."


sniper4625 posted:

Only one, true, clear choice.

Let Marxism-Wingism be born! :ussr:

SoggyBobcat
Oct 2, 2013

"Thank you for voting. The Congress will certify the vote on 11 June 2016."

So the result has already been determined, has it? Not surprised Congress would conspire to keep the proletariat down! :argh:

Takanago
Jun 2, 2007

You'll see...
Is this race going to mark the biggest difference between how well a candidate does with the Goon Vote and how well they did with the actual, historical vote?

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
The legal successor of Simon Wing's party is a website last updated in 2011 and designed a decade before that

http://www.slp.org/index.html

Of course, it has been in decline ever since the filthy splitter Debs peeled off from DeLeonism.

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
If Matchett wishes to abolish the positions of President and Vice-President, I wonder what he will do when given the job of VP.

We should give it to him just to see.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Empress Theonora posted:

"Another election filled with bad candidates who all have something that makes them unelecta.................................... oh."
Exactly my thoughts. Populism seems to go hand in hand with xenophobia at any point of history, it seems.

Well then, Full Communism Now it is.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

I thought I would finally be able to vote for a candidate without holding my nose, but Wing's support for referenda on major decisions is a major negative

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Finally, full Communism.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Hey, literally today I mentioned in the GOP thread that I missed this thread and here it is. Voting for a glorious socialist republic.

Also what's the deal with the Preseident and VP candidate of the People's Party? It doesn't seem like they have anything in common other than hating foreigners.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Hatred of foreigners is a cornerstone of populism.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Badger of Basra posted:

I thought I would finally be able to vote for a candidate without holding my nose, but Wing's support for referenda on major decisions is a major negative

It hasn't really been tried yet, so presumably it'll be fixed after it burns down the country. :v:

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

SoggyBobcat posted:

"Thank you for voting. The Congress will certify the vote on 11 June 2016."

So the result has already been determined, has it? Not surprised Congress would conspire to keep the proletariat down! :argh:

:mason: :mason:

GreyjoyBastard posted:

It hasn't really been tried yet, so presumably it'll be fixed after it burns down the country. :v:

Southxit


UrbicaMortis posted:

Also what's the deal with the Preseident and VP candidate of the People's Party? It doesn't seem like they have anything in common other than hating foreigners.

Weaver and Field aren't that different from one another. Field has a reputation as a defender of the poor. He helped institute Virginia's first public school system, pushed for public works projects to keep people employed, and supports the nationalization of the railroads. The biggest difference is their attitudes towards race. Field is a segregationist and Weaver opposed slavery but is pretty ambivalent towards actual racial progress.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

I'm glad to see the thread return! This will disappoint Mr. Nixon, though, who was planning to take over if you were Toxx'd.



He planned to play the dark side of the electorate like the black keys on a piano

Still, it's not his first rodeo in that respect:



Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!
Let's show Paris how a real commune handles becoming an international pariah getting invaded by two or more imperialist powers instant communism!

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


I'm leaning towards the People's Party. I realise that people here desperately want Full Communism Now, but I personally think that the SLP are going a bit too far.

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Yvonmukluk posted:

I'm leaning towards the People's Party. I realise that people here desperately want Full Communism Now, but I personally think that the SLP are going a bit too far.

But if they go too far we can just have referendum that reign them back in. It's the perfect plan!

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


NumberLast posted:

But if they go too far we can just have referendum that reign them back in. It's the perfect plan!
The real issue is that the SLP would like to abolish the offices of president and Vice President. So therefore we can't have any more elections!

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Yvonmukluk posted:

The real issue is that the SLP would like to abolish the offices of president and Vice President. So therefore we can't have any more elections!

A great way for the thread to end.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

karmicknight posted:

A great way for the thread to end.

In the world where goons were the electorate, elections ended due to the fourth civil war.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

...I guess Weaver seems like the best candidate? Up until that seizing immigrant property thing. I guess Harrison's the best economically as well as for immigrants, and then Grover Cleveland is running on a dumb platform of not wanting to get much done. Then there's the prohibition candidate, who has some neat ideas but they're clumsy and they're paired with even more anti-immigrant sentiment. I like the classic obscure VP though.

And then there's this crazy idiot playing it up for the weird goon vote by making insane claims of what he plans to do. "Abolish the positions of president and VP and replace congress with a 'worker's council'?" What does that even mean?! Get out of here ya wingnut.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006
gently caress the commies and the populists. Harrison! *slams down telegraph receiver*

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)
I've been out and about for a while not turned to matters of the Goon Council, but I have returned, gentlemen and ladies hiding behind beards.

Weaver is a throwback to the Jacksonian "gently caress the elites, but gently caress non-white people too". Cleveland's promise of keeping back is not the way to go, we must head to the future! (And hey, look, Adlai Stevenson's horrible racist grandfather!) Prohibition party continues to be out in the weeds, taking aim at whichever windmills they think are giants this week. Harrison seems pretty stable and reasonable, would be better than the rest. Probably the best lesser evil choice.

But, I've been gone for a long time, reading up on socialism, and it must be the way that we move forward. Wing's ideas about government organization are radical, but we must reorganize on much more democratic terms! The US is on its way up as a large power, and it's a great area for us to experiment with Marx's ideas without causing fear among the stodgy establishment in other countries like the UK. (Like where else would the ideas take hold? Some backwater like Russia? Hah!)

Onward, comrades!

e: OK, Adlai Stevenson's more racist grandfather.

foobardog has issued a correction as of 22:26 on Jul 25, 2016

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

foobardog posted:

Prohibition party continues to be out in the weeds, taking aim at whichever windmills they think are giants this week. H

excuse me, but abolishing trial by jury and replacing it with technocratic tribunals is a VERY important issue that deserves everyone's attention

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The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Nebakenezzer posted:

In the world where goons were the electorate, elections ended due to the fourth civil war.

Come on, now, that's not true at all.

Elections ended when the nation immediately crumbled when not-George-Washington was elected.

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