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Burkion posted:Unless there's a joke I'm missing here, Silver Sable is a woman. He's giving me poo poo despite me not saying anything about Sony and despite there being 50 years of evidence to back me up on DC biting Marvels steeze
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Jun 25, 2016 18:43
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Literally The Worst posted:He's giving me poo poo despite me not saying anything about Sony and despite there being 50 years of evidence to back me up on DC biting Marvels steeze It was a (not particularly effective) joke about how "Sony's movie chief said that they want Marvel to help them get the new Spiderman Universe off the ground" and the sort of heroes Marvel has selected, which I probably should have made about Silver Sable and not Black Cat, but definitely had nothing to do with you.
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Jun 25, 2016 18:46
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I just think the movie is going to be awful because Sony is an objectively awful film company with a toxic as gently caress behind the scenes environment that only did as good as they did with the Raimi films because it was Sam Raimi making them and when they did rear their heads for SM3 there went the whole show. The best chance the new Spider-Man film has of being good is entirely proportional to how much control Sony has and how much influence they try to exert. The more they try, the more it's going to be a goddamn trash fire. Not that the creative team, ANY of the creative team, gives me hope for the film regardless. Sony going off on their own and making a Silver Sable film though could either be the dumbest or best thing they could do, since it would have to be an entirely original thing, and there is NO ONE who would go BUT MAH SILVER SABLE for whatever dumb changes they make because no one cares about Silver Sable.
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Jun 25, 2016 18:51
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Like let's start with the fact that DCs characters function much better when they don't exist in a shared universe (because they were never meant to before Justice League #1 came out) and the Nolan Batman movies did just fine despite not vein f part of a Cinematic Universe and starting before Marvel got rolling But Marvel hit it big with the MCU so quick we gotta start over and do that but not actually do the thing that made Marvels movies work which is give everyone their own movie first to develop them And this is just the movies, this isn't even talking about their comics since Marvel busted onto the scene and Stan Lee started spitting diss tracks in the letters columns every month
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Jun 25, 2016 18:51
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Sir Kodiak posted:It was a (not particularly effective) joke about how "Sony's movie chief said that they want Marvel to help them get the new Spiderman Universe off the ground" and the sort of heroes Marvel has selected, which I probably should have made about Silver Sable and not Black Cat, but definitely had nothing to do with you. That joke still makes no sense
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Jun 25, 2016 18:52
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Literally The Worst posted:That joke still makes no sense Thanks for letting me know, it's nice to receive feedback.
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Jun 25, 2016 18:58
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Literally The Worst posted:That joke still makes no sense He was saying Sony so desperately wants to be Marvel that they won't actually make a movie starring a woman, which makes perfect sense as it was said. You having no reading comprehension is the issue.
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Jun 25, 2016 19:03
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Literally The Worst posted:Like let's start with the fact that DCs characters function much better when they don't exist in a shared universe (because they were never meant to before Justice League #1 came out)  World's Finest had been going on for at least a decade before JLA, and the JSA nearly twenty years. With various team ups between unrelated characters happening all the time in between.
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Jun 25, 2016 19:03
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cvnvcnv posted:He was saying Sony so desperately wants to be Marvel that they won't actually make a movie starring a woman, which makes perfect sense as it was said. You having no reading comprehension is the issue. But Silver Sable is a woman It would have made sense if the announcement was about like I dunno The Prowler but they specifically called out one of the few notable female super people in the Spider-Man corner of the Marvel U BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 19:06
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Detective No. 27 posted:
And all of them were characters who were not intended to share a universe is the broader point here
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Jun 25, 2016 19:07
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Literally The Worst posted:But Silver Sable is a woman Legit, have you not been wearing your helmet when you go outside? Is this a troll? Dude, did you read that one article about the Aunt May movie they totally are going to make? It's such a sure thing I already saw it. Awesome movie, I loved all four sequels too! Sony is the best, they make poo poo tons of female superhero movies. Don't believe me? A website article mentioned Silver Sable and SHE IS A WOMAN!!!
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Jun 25, 2016 19:18
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cvnvcnv posted:Legit, have you not been wearing your helmet when you go outside? Is this a troll? Turn your monitor on
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Jun 25, 2016 19:28
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But I mean it's not like this has been a rumor since the email hack or anything, it's exactly as ludicrous as the idea of an Aunt May movie, you're right, and also not an rear end in a top hat
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Jun 25, 2016 19:29
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Apparently an Aunt May movie was also talked about in those emails and like that's awesome I would go see it day one Also these rumors are still more than Marvel has shown outside of talk about a Captain Marvel movie (for those of you who are gearing up for scathing remarks about mental disabilities, Captain Marvel is a woman as well) Seriously tho don't kid yourself you would absolutely go watch a Marisa Tomei Aunt May movie
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Jun 25, 2016 19:31
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Yeah, I would have had to slightly change the wording to respond to the Silver Sable rumor. Like something about how I'm sure Marvel will talk them out of it and tell them what a mistake it would be to have a female lead or something. I don't know exactly what I would have landed on, but it's not like it's hard to use a hacky joke to take a cheap shot at Marvel.
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Jun 25, 2016 19:34
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, I would have had to slightly change the wording to respond to the Silver Sable rumor. Like something about how I'm sure Marvel will talk them out of it and tell them what a mistake it would be to have a female lead or something. I don't know exactly what I would have landed on, but it's not like it's hard to use a hacky joke to take a cheap shot at Marvel. Yeah that would've been better, it's just as worded it didn't work at all. Good effort tho, B-
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Jun 25, 2016 19:35
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NikkolasKing posted:So the two people I see get poo poo on consistently by comic book/movie/comic book movie fans are Zack Snyder and Bryan Singer. I got nothing on Snyder as the only film I've seen of his at this point is 300, which I hated but which was based on garbage to begin with so it's hardly his fault. Singer has always gotten crap for the X-Men movies, to the point I remember when First Class came out a lot of people called it the first "genuinely good X-Men movie." That kind of irked me since I like X1 and 2. They could have been better but saying they were outright bad? I don't agree. Snyder is extremely my poo poo first and foremost because his movies are a visual delight. Singer is too flat at camera work, or his cinematographer is, and it makes the movies a drag. X1 and X2 are the only movies of his that I've really liked and that's because of their relatively tight plotting and because the minority oppression allegory works best in those.
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Jun 25, 2016 19:37
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Literally The Worst posted:Yeah that would've been better, it's just as worded it didn't work at all. Good effort tho, B- Christ, Sir Kodiak was just joking about the MCU dragging its rear end to make a female-led superhero movie. The joke wasn't anything special, but it's hardly the first time the MCU was criticized for taking its sweet time to finally make a movie not starring a straight white man.
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Jun 25, 2016 19:42
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Literally The Worst posted:But I mean it's not like this has been a rumor since the email hack or anything, it's exactly as ludicrous as the idea of an Aunt May movie, you're right, and also not an rear end in a top hat  Basing the validity of anything on rumors is tremendously telling. Sony turning over every Spider-Man rock to see what in the world could make money means nothing, proves only that female characters exist within Spider-Man stories. They have ideas for all of them, and the men too. #Whoa
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Jun 25, 2016 19:43
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Equeen posted:Christ, Sir Kodiak was just joking about the MCU dragging its rear end to make a female-led superhero movie. The joke wasn't anything special, but it's hardly the first time the MCU was criticized for taking its sweet time to finally make a movie not starring a straight white man. Thanks for reiterating the thing I was literally quoting in that post, never would have guessed
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Jun 25, 2016 19:43
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Would Aunt May have powers in her solo movie? Golden Oldie baking powers or just borrow the Iron Man suit or what?
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Jun 25, 2016 20:24
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I just want a movie about Marisa Tomei bein sassy
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Jun 25, 2016 20:31
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The Aunt May movie would've been Sally Fields Aunt May. So no sass
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Jun 25, 2016 20:43
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CelticPredator posted:The Aunt May movie would've been Sally Fields Aunt May. But now it's Marisa Tomei
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Jun 26, 2016 03:09
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Oh I know. I'm just glad the movie didn't happen then. If it happens now, I will watch it.
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Jun 26, 2016 03:10
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The Aunt May movie was going to have her be a spy and set in the past. So, we were sadly not going to see Sally Fields kill anyone if it got made. They were going to cast a younger actress. I still wish Sony had a chance to make their Spiderman universe, just so I could see what the minds behind this email would have produced: quote:Spidey thought This is the email of a man in charge of a major film franchise who made more in 2014 than everyone in this forum combined. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Jun 26, 2016 04:07
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Wait, that email is real? It isn't a joke?
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Jun 26, 2016 04:12
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A Spidey Snap-Chat story is kinda neat marketing. It would've been expensive as hell though. They could've introduced some really low level villains in that.
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Jun 26, 2016 04:13
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CelticPredator posted:A Spidey Snap-Chat story is kinda neat marketing. It would've been expensive as hell though. They could've introduced some really low level villains in that. It's not clear to me that he doesn't mean using that idea in-universe, since there's not a chance in hell that Sony wouldn't make a real-world Spider-Man Snapchat available to literally anybody who wanted in. It's just a guy making it clear that his only exposure to young people is the most superficial of Internet trends. It's like someone in the 80s whose entire conception of teenagers is based exclusively on MTV.
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Jun 26, 2016 05:08
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Just to gently remind people who have high hopes, or even moderate hopes, of the next Spider-Man movie being good- that man is still the one who has final say over everything. The gently caress wad who made the worst choices for Fox got brought over and is in charge of the movie from Sony's POV. Sony has final say over the movie. And the creative team of the movie is utter dogshit. You can have as many amazing actors as you like, if the people who are MAKING the film are utterly dreadful, you're going to have a God awful movie. Marvel and more importantly RDJ might be able to parlay that into an acceptable if bland film, but I wouldn't expect any more than that. Sony is just the worst film company of the big names, whose least hated film in the last 5 years might be Goosebumps.
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Jun 26, 2016 05:11
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Wait who is Silver Sable and why does Sony want her in a movie, aside from the alliteration you would get from a headline like Sony's Spiderman versus Silver Sable ? Is she Aunt May's superhero identity?
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Jun 26, 2016 05:13
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Burkion posted:Just to gently remind people who have high hopes, or even moderate hopes, of the next Spider-Man movie being good- that man is still the one who has final say over everything. What do you got against Jon Watts?
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Jun 26, 2016 05:14
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Cardboard Box A posted:Wait who is Silver Sable and why does Sony want her in a movie, aside from the alliteration you would get from a headline like Sony's Spiderman versus Silver Sable ? It changes from time to time and iteration to iteration but basically she is Spider-Man's Black Widow, only still a foreign agent, usually. That's pretty much it. One time she was a mobster's daughter, some times she works for the US, but usually she's just a C list Black Widow who isn't Russian. She's just a fairly long running support character of the Spidey Books, but in an indirect way. I think her biggest role in recent history was when she teamed up with Spidey to stop Dock Ock from igniting the atmosphere. Hat Thoughts posted:What do you got against Jon Watts? Nothing personally, just that I think it's going to take a director of higher caliber than "The Guy Who Directed Cop Car" to not be crushed under the combined weight of Sony and Disney telling him what the gently caress to do. Could be worse. Could be his writing staff.
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Jun 26, 2016 05:16
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Sir Kodiak posted:It's not clear to me that he doesn't mean using that idea in-universe, since there's not a chance in hell that Sony wouldn't make a real-world Spider-Man Snapchat available to literally anybody who wanted in. Oh yeah, the guy's out of touch. But as a MILLENNIALLLL, I would be stoked to open up a Spidey Snapchat. Just 5 or 6 20 second clips per day for a week and you're golden. It would be prime marketing.
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Jun 26, 2016 05:19
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As an aside, what do you think the odds of us getting a Thunderbolts movie post-Suicide Squad?
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Jun 26, 2016 07:46
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Vicissitude posted:As an aside, what do you think the odds of us getting a Thunderbolts movie post-Suicide Squad? I'd say it's highly likely. It won't be until after Infinity War, but I could easily see Marvel going with Thunderbolts and New Avengers and wanting to have a movie of a battle between those groups.
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Jun 26, 2016 09:04
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I hope they go with either the team that had Bullseye, Venom and Ares or the one with Red Hulk, Leader, Agent Venom and Ghost Rider.
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Jun 26, 2016 09:08
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Vicissitude posted:As an aside, what do you think the odds of us getting a Thunderbolts movie post-Suicide Squad? I'm more interested in the odds of every print of suicide squad exploding right now
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Jun 26, 2016 12:23
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Burkion posted:\Nothing personally, just that I think it's going to take a director of higher caliber than "The Guy Who Directed Cop Car" to not be crushed under the combined weight of Sony and Disney telling him what the gently caress to do. this idea that the studios are constnatly breathing down everyone's neck telling them to how shoot the movie is super weird considering studio interference is more likely to show up in the script/editing
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Aunt May movie was going to have her be a spy and set in the past. So, we were sadly not going to see Sally Fields kill anyone if it got made. They were going to cast a younger actress. That EDM stuff pretty much did end up in ASM2 with Electro, too.
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