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Defiance posted:I guess the question for me that springs to mind from all of this, and it's a question that's marginally more on-point, is how much of modern political discourse is being driven by mental illness? Is Milo acting out because he genuinely believes in the cause or is he compelled to become the center of attention because of some deeper underlying personal problem? Same goes for Trump. It's been at the point since the 1960's and increasing since then that, with the definition of "mental illness" so expanded, you can call anything you don't like or agree with the product of mental illness. Read Thomas Szasz for starters. Or don't idc
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Jun 27, 2016 10:25
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it's pathological
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Jun 27, 2016 10:28
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It seems like Szasz is taking things to the extreme. He doesn't believe in mental illness at all. A lot of diagnostic tools have come around since he published his work. For instance, it's my understanding that schizophrenia and OCD can be diagnosed with a brain scan. On the other extreme you have someone like Prester Jane, who seems pretty comfortable diagnosing Trump based on his public persona -- which may or may not be in line with how he behaves in his private life. She has even gone so far as to predict a meltdown when Trump finally loses. Caught in the middle is poor (?) Dinesh D'Souza, who had to undergo mandatory therapy as a result of his conviction for bundling money improperly. His views are pretty out there, but I don't necessarily think they merit psychological treatment. I haven't really drawn any conclusions, but this discussion is making me wonder how many of you fuckers are certifiable IRL.
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Jun 27, 2016 10:41
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it's cool to humiliate desouza in any and all ways possible imo
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Defiance posted:It seems like Szasz is taking things to the extreme. He doesn't believe in mental illness at all. A lot of diagnostic tools have come around since he published his work. For instance, it's my understanding that schizophrenia and OCD can be diagnosed with a brain scan. “Schizophrenia is defined so vaguely that, in actuality, it is a term often applied to almost any kind of behavior of which the speaker disapproves.” “If schizophrenia…turns out to have a biochemical cause and cure, schizophrenia would no longer be one of the diseases for which a person would be involuntarily committed. In fact, it would then be treated by neurologists, and psychiatrists then have no more to do with it than they do with Glioblastoma [malignant tumor], Parkinsonism, and other diseases of the brain.” “‘Mental illness’ is an expression, a metaphor that describes an offending, disturbing, shocking, or vexing conduct, action, or pattern of behavior, such as schizophrenia, as an ‘illness’ or disease.” Also this ought to be read widely http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Szasz/myth.htm
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After much deliberation, those most likely to be Tautologicus if it is not NML are, in this order: Maoist Pussy DrPlump Ork of Fiction Baloogan Oiled & Ready Maoist Pussy and Dr Plump are under HIGH SUSPICION If you wish to assist in nailing the perp, items of note: Tautologicus had a posting hiatus from August 30th 2015 to June 24th 2016 at 1:21AM Baloogan is under suspicion for this post less than 20 minutes after his probation and Kissinger's: 3:46AM Tautologicus: "Like Baloogan is getting probated for the benefit of who exactly" DrPlump is under suspicion for getting banned for the first time in a decade (MRA Bullshit) on 9/30/13, just 4 days before Tautologicus first registered All suspected parties have posted in threads in multiple forums besides YCS in conversation with Tautologicus and have some similar speech patterns.
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One might say this isn't the thread for this...but in fact, within every thread i've ever talked about this i've been shut down, so i no longer see any distinction between this thread and another thread when discussing thomas szasz or the roots of the term mental illness.Oiled and Ready posted:After much deliberation, those most likely to be Tautologicus if it is not NML are, in this order: lol, I am NML 1, 2 and 5, and I honestly 100% did not post on this website from August 2015 to March 2016.
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Jun 27, 2016 10:57
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its true im Tautologicus
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Jun 27, 2016 11:02
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no wait im actually not, sorry.
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Tautologicus posted:One might say this isn't the thread for this...but in fact, within every thread i've ever talked about this i've been shut down, so i no longer see any distinction between this thread and another thread when discussing thomas szasz or the roots of the term mental illness. So you registered this account a few years ago solely to troll ask/tell and now it is the only account you have left, right checks out
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Baloogan posted:no wait im actually not, sorry. You protest too much, how many other accounts do you have that have posts in YCS besides Kissinger and Baloogan I'm guessing at least 2 more
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Jun 27, 2016 11:07
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I plead the fifth. I don't recall.
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Oiled and Ready posted:So you registered this account a few years ago solely to troll ask/tell and now it is the only account you have left, right I registered to post in Nu-GBS and then i just kinda fell into trolling A/T as a side gig, and yes
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Jun 27, 2016 11:10
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I'm rather certain that we're all Oiled and Ready alternate accounts.
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Jun 27, 2016 11:13
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I'm not quite sure why I'm maintaining Sec. Kissinger's impeccable grammar and spelling, but it's all part of the character.
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Jun 27, 2016 11:15
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Henry Kissinger posted:I'm not quite sure why I'm maintaining Sec. Kissinger's impeccable grammar and spelling, but it's all part of the character. Baloogan can keep up his grammar and spelling even when he's drunk, to the point there are several documented late nights where Baloogan can't spell 3 words correctly in a row even as Kissinger posts impeccably. But Trump can't modulate his vocabulary to be dumber on command, nope, even though he's always sober. Instead, Baloogan is some sort of savant and no one else can possibly play multiple characters.
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Jun 27, 2016 11:23
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its hard work postinking this poorly u try it somtime
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Jun 27, 2016 11:24
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actualy it isn't you just have to ignore all the red squigglies lol
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Baloogan posted:actualy it isn't you just have to ignore all the red squigglies lol purposefully posting mass typos in order to reflect your actual level of drunkenness is your biggest flaw imo even when I'm wasted I don't do the Baloogan tgbe baloofan being when you kin fo just tgype with the level of efeort you owuld sober ----- Hey Baloogan --- QUIT VICE SIGNALING
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Jun 27, 2016 11:35
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im just lazy when i type and dont go back and correct things. i prob type worst when sober and i really only had 2 drinks tonight im stone cold sober
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Jun 27, 2016 11:39
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New policy speech tomorrow, so get ready for TelemprompTrump-- https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/747378619773747201
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Jun 27, 2016 11:43
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Dogstoyevsky posted:New policy speech tomorrow, so get ready for TelemprompTrump-- Expect it to be on globalization and free trade. Wiki says that town essentially got destroyed when the steel mill sold out to Severstal and then AG a few years ago. Getting some momentum in the rust belt would be a good thing to do in the few weeks before the convention considering he definitely isn't going to pull back to a tie nationally during this period. Might as well attempt to consolidate the white unionized working class or what's left of it.
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Jun 27, 2016 11:58
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I got drunk last night to enhance my Trump posts, but then I started reading about economics and fell asleep.
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Jun 27, 2016 12:33
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FabioClone posted:I got drunk last night to enhance my Trump posts, but then I started reading about economics and fell asleep. I wasn't that enthusiastic writing those myself..just kinda phoning it in. but the people deserve to know
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Jun 27, 2016 12:35
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Seriously, though. Don't drink rum and try to read about the financial markets. I regret my choices.
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Jun 27, 2016 12:39
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gas thread
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Oiled and Ready posted:Expect it to be on globalization and free trade. Wiki says that town essentially got destroyed when the steel mill sold out to Severstal and then AG a few years ago. As long as he's bringing back JoePa, he might as well resurrect the steel mills, amirite?
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Liddle Marco's gonna shiv Trump's immigration agenda--quote:Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said he would try to derail Donald Trump’s signature proposal to ban Muslim immigrants from the U.S. if he wins reelection to his Florida senate seat.
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Dogstoyevsky posted:Liddle Marco's gonna shiv Trump's immigration agenda-- I'm the "GOP moderate" who actually plans on running on the platform of "you can't do that terrible thing! No, really, I'd like to do it as much as you, but you cannot. It is too arduous and expensive. You gotta set realistic goals when it comes to being an rear end in a top hat. Start small, work your way up, genocide isn't for amateurs!" I have no idea what voter group is being targeted by Ryan's recent pivot to "I know you want to stomp the puppy to death, but maybe just kick the puppy. It's more sustainable.", but I know this is good news... FOR NEHLEN! EDIT: Marco reboot is such a transparent Paul Ryanbot that I forgot who I was insulting halfway through. If that was the goal...congrats?
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Jun 27, 2016 13:16
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I'm thinking Amateur Economist
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It really is an art tho to have bad opinion s about everything.
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Rubio's position on immigration has always been less horrible than expected. For instance, in the Gang of Eight -- where he was the most conservative member negotiating -- he agreed that there should be a path to amnesty, but only if the immigrant had been in the country for 5 years. Rubio also caved on a provision that would allow the previously-deported to return and petition for citizenship. It's like his sole humane issue.
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Oiled and Ready posted:I have no idea what voter group is being targeted by Ryan's recent pivot to "I know you want to stomp the puppy to death, but maybe just kick the puppy. It's more sustainable.", but I know this is good news... FOR NEHLEN! Hm, maybe politics involves a certain amount of compromise and coalition-building, and Trump's approach of delivering hilarious supa slams to everyone else in the GOP would make his hypothetical presidency extremely unproductive?
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Jun 27, 2016 13:30
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One of the positive aspects of Trump's candidacy is that he revealed Paul Ryan to be the effete beta that I always suspected him to be. Bro do you even whip.
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Zelder posted:*looking at another person* "haha I'm willing to bet half of my all my cumulative things that I definitely won't get tired of you" Ten year anni in October and my relationship works but I can see why they're more likely to fail then they aren't. It's an antiquated social concept that does not make sense for a lot of modern people's lifestyles and encourages long term decisions that frequently don't work out. People who feel pressured to get married before they're 30 end up getting into relationships with people they don't have compatible goals with, they end up resenting each other, they crap out some kids to try to repair the damage and then it either ends spectacularly and ruins everyone's lives or lasts for decades until you finally learn to stand each other in your 60s. Marriage today is like Church in the 80s. I suspect attendance to be down in the coming decades accordingly.
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Dogstoyevsky posted:Hm, maybe politics involves a certain amount of compromise and coalition-building, and Trump's approach of delivering hilarious supa slams to everyone else in the GOP would make his hypothetical presidency extremely unproductive? He's slowly trying to knock all the has-beens out of the party and turn it into his party. He doesn't need to build coalitions with Sad! losers. Their days are numbered
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