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Zahi posted:Makes it easy for a real country to take it back under their wing. We should just start calling Britain by its proper name. "Airstrip One".
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Jun 28, 2016 01:21
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ElGroucho posted:This is why we have a republic, kids That'd be a point except for the fact that this was *literally just a public opinion poll* and has no legal significance. It's just an expression of the collective desire. The whole clusterfuck, in the immediate, resulted from the smart ones, the guys running the ship, deciding to *hold* the public opinion poll in the first place. So those stupid fuckers decided to do this, now they're in the burning boat that they set fire to in the first place, and the objection is that the *people* are too damned stupid to be allowed to vote? And it's *David Cameron*, the guy who decided to hold the referendum in the first place, that's the smart one? How's that working out for him? This is the best single thing I've read on Brexit, because it's the first thing I've read that actually considers the serious concerns of the people who voted Leave, without just punting and painting them as a bunch of ignorant racists: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/divided-britain-brexit-money-class-inequality-westminster?CMP=share_btn_tw quote:Most of all, Brexit is the consequence of the economic bargain struck in the early 1980s, whereby we waved goodbye to the security and certainties of the postwar settlement, and were given instead an economic model that has just about served the most populous parts of the country, while leaving too much of the rest to anxiously decline. Look at the map of those results, and that huge island of “in” voting in London and the south-east; or those jaw-dropping vote-shares for remain in the centre of the capital: 69% in Tory Kensington and Chelsea; 75% in Camden; 78% in Hackney, contrasted with comparable shares for leave in such places as Great Yarmouth (71%), Castle Point in Essex (73%), and Redcar and Cleveland (66%). Here is a country so imbalanced it has effectively fallen over. If people have money, they voted to stay, if they were poor, they voted to leave. The poor are, in fact, allowed to watch decades of increasing income inequality (London is at this point effectively uninhabitable for the merely middle-class), decades of less and less work, decades of more and more worry, and decide that "Hey, maybe the smart people who are running things aren't actually all that smart," without being attacked in some of the most vile, undemocratic terms I've seen. They've been compared to insects and reptiles in the press. It's really pretty classist in the British sense, hearkening back to a long history of an elite landed gentry who never really enjoyed the idea that the regular people down at the pub should have an equal say in the way things are run. Which is a big part of the reason I'm enjoying this. Everyone was so! surprised! at the results of the vote, precisely *because* they've spent decades pissing on those people and telling them that it's just a warm spring rain, painting them as ignorant, calling them racists, using mockery and condescension as tools of political argument rather than treating legitimate concerns with the seriousness they deserve. So what are those people going to do when you have a public opinion poll? They're going to tell you what they know you want to hear, and then they're going to go into the voting booth and vote what they actually think. Also a good bit from that Grauniad article: quote:Orwell wrote his masterful text The Lion and the Unicorn when Europe was tearing itself apart, and the UK’s isolation was more a matter of righteous principle than political chaos. England, he said, “resembles a family, a rather stuffy Victorian family, with not many black sheep in it but with all its cupboards bursting with skeletons. It has rich relations who have to be kowtowed to and poor relations who are horribly sat upon, and there is a deep conspiracy of silence about the source of the family income.” Phanatic has a new favorite as of 01:34 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 01:30
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Jun 28, 2016 01:39
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Kennel posted:England is a gift that keeps on giving. I'll never get over soccer matches being described as "gigantic travesties" or "humiliating losses" when every single one of them has a score of 2-1 or 1-0. You guys were almost identical, calm down.
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Jun 28, 2016 01:58
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chitoryu12 posted:Surprisingly, no. The monarch of the United Kingdom actually maintains quite little power; though she gives power through her position, she has very little ability to directly make proclamations on how the country is run. The UK has maintained its monarchy specifically because of this: there's no reason to overthrow your king and decapitate him when he's not actually doing anything. quote:At least 39 bills have been subject to Royal approval, with the senior royals using their power to consent or block new laws in areas such as higher education, paternity pay and child maintenance. A White Guy posted:One of the things Elizabeth has done is that she basically took the Royal Family off public money - the Royal Family is entirely self-funded. quote:Queen in line for £2.8m pay rise in 2017-18 Carbon dioxide posted:The amount of monarchy-haters in the Netherlands is only 5 or 10%, so the king can reach way more people with his politically neutral speeches.  Sorry, enough republicanism, have some content:  Prince Charles having trash thrown at him: 
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Jun 28, 2016 02:39
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chitoryu12 posted:I'll never get over soccer matches being described as "gigantic travesties" or "humiliating losses" when every single one of them has a score of 2-1 or 1-0. If USA's basketball dream team lost to Iceland 100-99 in Olympics playoffs it would definitely be a gigantic travesty and a humiliating loss.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:42
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chitoryu12 posted:I'll never get over soccer matches being described as "gigantic travesties" or "humiliating losses" when every single one of them has a score of 2-1 or 1-0. It's pretty devastating to lose to someone who manages to get double your score, it's also very embarrassing to never score at all.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:50
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Kennel posted:If USA's basketball dream team lost to Iceland 100-99 in Olympics playoffs it would definitely be a gigantic travesty and a humiliating loss. They'd deserve it for sending pros. Olympic basketball has no integrity!
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Jun 28, 2016 02:53
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Nuebot posted:It's pretty devastating to lose to someone who only gets paid 10% of your salary
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Jun 28, 2016 02:58
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Nuebot posted:It's pretty devastating to lose to someone who manages to get double your score, it's also very embarrassing to never score at all. Australia Women's team loses 7-0 to Under-15 men's side quote:In quite some setback ahead of the summer Olympics in Rio, Australia Women's team have lost 7-0 to a Newcastle Jets Under-15 side.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:04
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Remember when womens basketball had that big push to make it popular about six years ago, and it crashed and burned so hard and so fast because literally no one gave any fucks. That was embarrassing.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:20
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Remember when womens basketball had that big push to make it popular about six years ago, and it crashed and burned so hard and so fast because literally no one gave any fucks. No one gives a gently caress about the brazilian women's soccer team and ironically their results are ridiculously better than the male team.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:22
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Lots of weird crapping on women's sports out of nowhere for some reason?
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Jun 28, 2016 03:25
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zakharov posted:Lots of weird crapping on women's sports out of nowhere for some reason? You're mistaken. People have been crapping on womens sports since the invention of womens sports.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:26
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Jun 28, 2016 03:31
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Phanatic posted:That'd be a point except for the fact that this was *literally just a public opinion poll* and has no legal significance. It's just an expression of the collective desire. The whole clusterfuck, in the immediate, resulted from the smart ones, the guys running the ship, deciding to *hold* the public opinion poll in the first place. So those stupid fuckers decided to do this, now they're in the burning boat that they set fire to in the first place, and the objection is that the *people* are too damned stupid to be allowed to vote? Dumb loving rednecks hate foreigners and capital cities are too expensive to live in on welfare. Got it.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:38
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Nuebot posted:It's pretty devastating to lose to someone who manages to get double your score, it's also very embarrassing to never score at all. I mean sure, technically 2 is better than 1. In the same sense that a baby that dies at the age of 2 was more successful than the infant who died at 1.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:45
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chitoryu12 posted:I mean sure, technically 2 is better than 1. In the same sense that a baby that dies at the age of 2 was more successful than the infant who died at 1. This is one of the dumbest analogies I've ever heard.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:56
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belt posted:This is one of the dumbest analogies I've ever heard. The analogy that fails at two words was more successful than the analogy that failed at one.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:02
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I didn't see him smashing his knee into the other dudes face initially so I was just thinking "sure the move is hell on the knees but it looks like he executed it fine"
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Jun 28, 2016 04:28
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Testekill posted:I didn't see him smashing his knee into the other dudes face initially so I was just thinking "sure the move is hell on the knees but it looks like he executed it fine" Uh... I think he's smashing his knee into the guy's balls. I don't see a face hit at all.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:34
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I thought they were talking about the elbow to the junk.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:37
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zakharov posted:Lots of weird crapping on women's sports out of nowhere for some reason? I tried to explain that the womens good fundamentals make up for their inability to dunk!!
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Jun 28, 2016 04:37
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oldpainless posted:I tried to explain that the womens good fundamentals make up for their inability to dunk!! Pretend I posted a picture of the Fry doll I had a goon custom-make for me. That episode has one of the greatest lines in the whole series: "What are you, gay?"
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Jun 28, 2016 05:51
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https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/eu...tory&soc_trk=twquote:Euro 2016 Steve McManaman exclusive: Iceland is as good as a bye for England - defeat is unthinkable e: Nevermind, this is the hottest possible take. https://twitter.com/TitanicGoal/status/747555115612123136/video/1 Stex T has a new favorite as of 06:06 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 06:00
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Terrible mma fighters. "loving FIGHT YOU PUSSY!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRFBNXgcVA&hd=1
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Jun 28, 2016 06:13
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ekuNNN posted:Sorry, enough republicanism, have some content: I'm afraid I don't get it - is the soldier saluting the officer and ignoring the queen? vvEdit: hilarious Serephina has a new favorite as of 07:44 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 07:36
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Watch the kid in the background, I didn't see it at first
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Jun 28, 2016 07:38
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RNG posted:Dumb loving rednecks hate foreigners and capital cities are too expensive to live in on welfare. Got it. Well not exactly. There are a lot of people who voted "leave" because the EU has basically become a reason as to why the world has either a) Gone wrong or b) Never been right. The free movement of people is seen to be an impediment for British people to achieve jobs, potentially with good reason. There is also a great deal of anger at the very idea that foreign visitors are coming to Britain, not being able to find work, and then claiming benefits. For some reason this makes people more angry than the vast amount of money that is shoveled into the furnace that is the City of London and the attempt to make Pinewood studios into mini-hollywood. There are a great deal of good reasons that people can dislike the EU. One of my personal ones is that I would prefer if it was less free trade and more raising every nation state inside it up to a set standard of living, a more federalist EU, closer to how the US is. But now? Now there is going to be suffering. People convinced that somehow a great deal of people are either racists or are empowering racists does not help the debate at all. The fact remains though, that a lot of the people at work who voted leave are the sort of utter fuckwits who post a burning EU note to Facebook and shout "FREEEEEDOM" afterr it, does not help matters at all.
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Jun 28, 2016 09:00
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Josef bugman posted:does not help matters at all. It is very funny, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8yYYMaKQDE
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Jun 28, 2016 09:05
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Jun 28, 2016 10:17
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nexus6 posted:The entirety of Scotland voted to leave btw Oh, they will soon.
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Jun 28, 2016 10:21
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ekuNNN posted:Queen in line for £2.8m pay rise in 2017-18 45.6 million pounds is 0.00008% of the yearly tax receipts collected by the British government. It's literally a statistically insignificant amount of money for the taxpayers to worry about.
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Jun 28, 2016 10:28
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cyberia posted:45.6 million pounds is 0.00008% of the yearly tax receipts collected by the British government. It's literally a statistically insignificant amount of money for the taxpayers to worry about. That £45M the Queen gets is 15% of the profits from her land ownership. The other 85%, £300M+, gets given to the treasury, i.e. the taxpayer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36643314 Turns out the Queen is pretty good at property investment. EDIT: bit dull fact, sorry. spog has a new favorite as of 10:55 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 10:40
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I've spent a month in Watford, areas of Kent and Brighton and I never saw a single person campaigning for Leave under 50. Also every person I spoke to eventually boiled down to complaining about immigrants. Currently moving to Kent with my husband because recent changes in his sector have made his job skill set incredibly rare. We chose england because the pay was slightly higher than the rest of europe and we have family near by. edit: I guess the shadenfreude is that if we filthy immigrants get thrown out we'll simply move to the continent and make some onion eating frenchman very rich instead of a member of gods chosen race? plain blue jacket has a new favorite as of 11:05 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 11:01
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nexus6 posted:The entirety of Scotland voted to 100% turnout and all voting the same way is impressive
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