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AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
Juri isn't a femme fatale though she just wants to loving kill you

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Ixiggle
Apr 28, 2009
People are way into her feet so as long as those are bare the fans will be fine

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

Hey man I know I"m opening a can of worms it's just that that exact argument comes up so often and is so bad that I'm sick of reading it. "Both gender characters are just idealised body images" yeah maybe if Urien had dick jiggle physics and flexed his rear end on his kick animations.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Ixiggle posted:

People are way into her feet so as long as those are bare the fans will be fine

I was legit upset when I thought she had shoes in one of the first screens I saw

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

AnonSpore posted:

Juri isn't a femme fatale though she just wants to loving kill you

For real, she does not want to gently caress anyone, she wants to loving kill them. Her thing is she is a sadist. The only people she talks dirty to are the ones she really wants to kill like Cammy and Chun.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

attackmole posted:

maybe if Urien had dick jiggle physics and flexed his rear end on his kick animations.

Yes please.
Add that instead of taking away the buttslaps. kthx.

Safety Scissors
Feb 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

I think it's actually a very fair criticism that doesn't get enough legitimate discussion. My niece, who is 6, saw my fight stick and wanted to play with it. I had her try USF4 and KI. She preferred USF4. I wouldn't want her to play SFV because I think the female characters are inappropriately designed and she always wants to play as a girl. My family doesn't even buy her things like barbie dolls because we think they promote a negative imagine of women, so SFV is flat out of the question. People want to avoid this argument, but concerned parents will buy their kids KI or Injustice instead as a Teen rated fighter over SFV based just on the design of the female costumes. I know you guys don't give a poo poo, but that doesn't mean it's not an issue that undermines a lot of Capcom's stated goals for SFV.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Boxer looks fuckin' sick, y'all.

Baal posted:

For real, she does not want to gently caress anyone, she wants to loving kill them. Her thing is she is a sadist. The only people she talks dirty to are the ones she really wants to kill like Cammy and Chun.

Sorry, I wasn't implying that her goal is to have sex with anyone, but that she does have a seductress aspect to her moves, like the 'come hither' finger motion she does or her non-Feng Shui Ultra from SF4. Much like the spider whose imagery covers her clothes, she likes to play with her opponents before beating the poo poo out of them.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
Cats are not being seductive when they play with mice before killing them

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
If you don't think a lot of Juri's stuff is designed to give people a bonez0r then you're either being deliberately obtuse or you need to watch better anime

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

AnonSpore posted:

Cats are not being seductive when they play with mice before killing them

Neither are spiders.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Agreed --v

ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

attackmole posted:

maybe if Urien had dick jiggle physics and flexed his rear end on his kick animations.

Urien should just be one of those guys from Mount Your Friends.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

Countblanc posted:

If you don't think a lot of Juri's stuff is designed to give people a bonez0r then you're either being deliberately obtuse or you need to watch better anime

I'm saying that saying it's okay that her design is Boobs and Feet because her personality is a femme fatale or whatever is ridiculous, she's a murderous psycho and maybe a creepy perv at best

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

Safety Scissors posted:

I think it's actually a very fair criticism that doesn't get enough legitimate discussion. My niece, who is 6, saw my fight stick and wanted to play with it. I had her try USF4 and KI. She preferred USF4. I wouldn't want her to play SFV because I think the female characters are inappropriately designed and she always wants to play as a girl. My family doesn't even buy her things like barbie dolls because we think they promote a negative imagine of women, so SFV is flat out of the question. People want to avoid this argument, but concerned parents will buy their kids KI or Injustice instead as a Teen rated fighter over SFV based just on the design of the female costumes. I know you guys don't give a poo poo, but that doesn't mean it's not an issue that undermines a lot of Capcom's stated goals for SFV.

Yeah I mean people get sick of it because it derails the thread and usually amounts to the same rehashed arguments, not because it's not valid, SA's usually pretty smart about this kind of stuff as far as internet communities go. But there's a certain point where people kinda blow it off in the FGC that's disconcerting to me, it's like people who've been playing fighting games for long enough get blind to the thing that half naked girls beating each other up is pretty juvenile to people uninitiated to the genre.

I know there's American companies with the issue too, but honestly I think a lot of it just stems from most FG's being made by niche Japanese companies. Japanese manufacturers are way more comfortable with making characters hypersexualized nerd bait.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Countblanc posted:

If you don't think a lot of Juri's stuff is designed to give people a bonez0r then you're either being deliberately obtuse or you need to watch better anime

I am being neither sir nor am I saying anything opposite to the former

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

AnonSpore posted:

I'm saying that saying it's okay that her design is Boobs and Feet because her personality is a femme fatale or whatever is ridiculous, she's a murderous psycho and maybe a creepy perv at best

She could be any of those things, the original point being that they got the point across without being excessively fan-servicey like they have with Mika and Laura.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Juri's design should NOT be boobs because that's Chun's life, and it gives her proper motivation for wanting to murder Chun

General Morden
Mar 3, 2013

GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA
when did i enter the senran kagura thread

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)
I blame Juri

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
I just like Juri's design in general. :shobon: Anyone else watching the WSO stream?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Juri is a good character from multiple points

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Capcom is a bunch of old idiot pervs who aren't even within shouting distance of the alternate reality you've concocted where they take female gamers or the social message behind all the cheesecake into consideration at all.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
just copy overwatchs design asthetics and then also copy overwatch, the game, onto your hard drive, and play it, because its good

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

RIP anti-grav chun

Zand
Jul 9, 2003

~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

darealkooky posted:

people being sexy in fighting games is more then just masturbation material (although that's cool too) but it's also because people of all sexes want to be insanely physically attractive but can't in real life because they eat at applebees too much or something. zero G tits are the exact same as guiles biceps the size of his head. this is my essay on gender politics and fighting games, ty for reading.

anyway urien probably has a suit because they want a way to give him alternate colors without just changing his skin tone and so they can sell the speedo as DLC

actually like I've said before, building biceps are nothing more than male power fantasies. equating them to oversexualized women is just misogynist

croutonZA
Jan 5, 2011
Sexy ladies dressed sexily in video games is fine. If every game was filled with them that would suck but it isn't 1995 anymore so it isn't and the games that do should be embraced, not derided.

Thoughts on Balrog so far?

Zand
Jul 9, 2003

~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

croutonZA posted:

Sexy ladies dressed sexily in video games is fine. If every game was filled with them that would suck but it isn't 1995 anymore so it isn't and the games that do should be embraced, not derided.

Thoughts on Balrog so far?

the minstrel version of mike Tyson looks cool in this version but I can't believe he doesn't have headbutt

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

croutonZA posted:

Thoughts on Balrog so far?

He looks, and I like that they gave him a lot of tools to gently caress with people; I imagine if PR_Balrog makes it to top 8 at EVO there'll be a lot of salt over it.

FanaticalMilk
Mar 11, 2011


attackmole posted:

Yeah I mean people get sick of it because it derails the thread and usually amounts to the same rehashed arguments, not because it's not valid, SA's usually pretty smart about this kind of stuff as far as internet communities go. But there's a certain point where people kinda blow it off in the FGC that's disconcerting to me, it's like people who've been playing fighting games for long enough get blind to the thing that half naked girls beating each other up is pretty juvenile to people uninitiated to the genre.

I know there's American companies with the issue too, but honestly I think a lot of it just stems from most FG's being made by niche Japanese companies. Japanese manufacturers are way more comfortable with making characters hypersexualized nerd bait.

I find it funny when games like Koihime Enbu which are literally based off of hentai have tamer costume designs than the girls in SFV. Though Koihime seems like the exception rather than the norm.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Don't let your kid play KI or Injustice because they suck

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009

Zand posted:

the minstrel version of mike Tyson looks cool in this version but I can't believe he doesn't have headbutt

i think its his alpha counter. i know that not what you mean but just saying

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




In Training posted:

Don't let your kid play KI or Injustice because they suck

lol.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Vega is sexy and cool:

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Zand posted:

actually like I've said before, building biceps are nothing more than male power fantasies. equating them to oversexualized women is just misogynist

I remember someone using the old-rear end "oh, but zangief and urien are naked how is that not female gaze" argument in one of the FGC group Laura-Talks, and then someone pointing out "actually female gaze is closer to kyo, which you guys seem to enjoy saying 'looks like a fag' so"

Anyway, funny that they designed a character with a counter to jump-guard. Rog looks strong, but by now I realize that you're not going many places without wakeup options so. Also 330 damage anti-air from any range.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Jack Trades posted:

Vega is sexy and cool:


vega would be unselectable if rashid had his own stage in the kingdom.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/hottie-deported-saudi-arabia-handsome-article-1.1327759

General Morden
Mar 3, 2013

GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA
shaheen is based off that guy

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

Jack Trades posted:

Vega is sexy and cool:


Reminder that Mika's outfit was made skimpier and Laura wears a version of a gi better-suited for parody porn while Urien and Vega were given more clothes. :v:

EDIT: They also upgraded the hell out of Karin's costume.

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Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

bhsman posted:

Reminder that Mika's outfit was made skimpier and Laura wears a version of a gi better-suited for parody porn while Urien and Vega were given more clothes. :v:

EDIT: They also upgraded the hell out of Karin's costume.

Capcom hosed this up for real. How dare they give Vega and Urien more clothes?!
I'm being completely serious here.

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