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Mortanis posted:Neal McDonough is a goddamned treasure. He's been in everything. From Star Trek First Contact to that pretty bland movie version of Timeline, though I always think of him from Band of Brothers. And who can forget his role as the eponymous character in Tin Man: The Search for A Homo?
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Mortanis posted:Neal McDonough is a goddamned treasure. He's been in everything. From Star Trek First Contact to that pretty bland movie version of Timeline, though I always think of him from Band of Brothers. 
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Carly Pope has been cast as Susan Williams, Hal Jordan's sister in law in the comicsquote:The CW has revealed to TV Insider that Carly Pope will be taking on the recurring role of Susan Williams, a journalist from nearby Coast City who comes to Star City “looking to make a name for herself” by targeting Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell) for a big story. If all of this sounds a little familiar to fans of the DC Universe, that's because in the comics, Williams is married to Jim Jordan, the little brother of Coast City's resident Green Lantern, Hal Jordan.
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Jun 30, 2016 05:33
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That feels so tangential I can barely even consider it news.
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Death Zebra posted:He also voiced Arrow a few years ago and obviously wound up playing an Arrow villian. Is there a term for that? Cast irony? Well there was Michael Rosenbaum who played Lex Luthor on Smallville for years and was simultaneously voicing Flash on the Justice League/JLU animated series. He even did an episode of JLU (one of the best) where he voiced the Flash while Flash had his mind swapped with Luthor's. ManSedan posted:I've been rewatching this on Netflix. Season 1 was okay but season 2 is so good ugggghhh what happened. Remember when we were all like "Arrow has such a quicker pace than Smallville! This is awesome and that episode's arc would've been an entire season's on Smallville!" Yeah, me too  Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Carly Pope has been cast as Susan Williams, Hal Jordan's sister in law in the comics Jesus. They need to poo poo or get off the GL pot.
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McDonough also crushed it on Band of Brothers too. Which makes his turn as Dum Dum Dugan even better.
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Thwomp posted:Well there was Michael Rosenbaum who played Lex Luthor on Smallville for years and was simultaneously voicing Flash on the Justice League/JLU animated series. He even did an episode of JLU (one of the best) where he voiced the Flash while Flash had his mind swapped with Luthor's. That was my favorite scene in JLU, with the exception of the scene where Amanda Waller does her whole speech about how Batman is the reason Cadmus exists. That was a good speech and sold me on the character.
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Rosenbaum is also my favorite Deadshot.
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Narcissus1916 posted:McDonough also crushed it on Band of Brothers too. Which makes his turn as Dum Dum Dugan even better.
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Crunk Abortion posted:Rosenbaum is also my favorite Deadshot. I loved that Rosenbaum did a snarky, sarcastic Kevin Spacey impression as his Deadshot voice. Deadshot was AWESOME in Batman: Assault on Arkham. He clowned Batman AND Joker, slept with Harley, and ended up pretty much as the big hero. There's no way Will Smith could possibly make him that awesome in the movie.
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I'd like to thank whoever brought up Justified for reminding me about it, as I'd been meaning to watch it for a while. Started yesterday, I'm halfway through season one now and god drat do I not regret this decision. 
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Spergatory posted:I'd like to thank whoever brought up Justified for reminding me about it, as I'd been meaning to watch it for a while. Started yesterday, I'm halfway through season one now and god drat do I not regret this decision. And the first season isn't even close to the best! I think the correct ranking is 2 4 6 3 1 5?
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Cody Rhodes (Stardust) is going on be on Arrow season 5. They are not loving around this year.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I loved that Rosenbaum did a snarky, sarcastic Kevin Spacey impression as his Deadshot voice. Once you get that in your head, there's no un-hearing it.
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Joyquote:During a panel at HVFF, Ramsey spoke with fans about his position on the show and where his character, Diggle, would venture in Season 5. However, he did take a moment to tease Olicity shippers that their OTP wasn’t dead yet. According to a tweet by @fangirlishness, David told them, “We can expect death, mayhem, AND OLIVER AND FELICITY GETTING BACK TOGETHER!”
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Rhyno posted:Cody Rhodes (Stardust) is going on be on Arrow season 5. They are not loving around this year. Finally, some goddamn payoff on the Cosmic Key.
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Ugh, the whole Oliver + Felicity thing... I just don't get it. Am I the only one who would prefer her dead and gone, permanently? She sticks out like a sore thumb as a made-up Mary Sue fanfic character who's never presented as being wrong even though she constantly is again and again. I hate her dumb mom, too.
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JazzFlight posted:Ugh, the whole Oliver + Felicity thing... I just don't get it. Am I the only one who would prefer her dead and gone, permanently? She sticks out like a sore thumb as a made-up Mary Sue fanfic character who's never presented as being wrong even though she constantly is again and again. I hate her dumb mom, too. She's a good actress and she's goddamned gorgeous but the character is insufferable. I just do not understand the mentality behind the relationships on the shows. They cast aside Laurel+Ollie because of the chemistry between Amell and EBR but over on Flash they junked the amazing Barry and Patty chemistry in favor of BARRY+IRIS 4EVER.
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Rhyno posted:She's a good actress
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JazzFlight posted:Ughhhhh, really? Every time she goes into pouty face cry scold mode with Oliver I want to shoot myself. Meanwhile when Jesse Martin (Joe) on Flash cries every ep, I want to toss an Emmy at him. Good enough and her chemistry with Amell is undeniable. But the producers made her the center of the show which has killed my interest in the character. I have good money that says she's already been guaranteed her own show down the line when her Arrow tenure is done, Berlanti loving loves her.
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JazzFlight posted:Ughhhhh, really? Every time she goes into pouty face cry/scold mode with Oliver I want to shoot myself. Meanwhile when Jesse L. Martin (Joe) on Flash cries every ep, I want to toss an Emmy at him. She can't do emotional. She's pretty good at the comedy stuff. She's not a good actor, but she's no Huntress.
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The problem with Felicity isn't that she's a bad character. She's a good character, and fun... but only when she's allowed to be the fun quirky banter sidekick. However the writers for this show are so incompetent that the only way to know how to do romance is with the maximum amount of contrived angst as possible, which is against her character from the first two seasons and is just a massive drag in general. I wish they'd get over that sort of lovely writing, but every romance on every CW show is a similar atrocity so it's got to be some sort of network mandated thing. 
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They even got the gay black dude to pick up the "quirky banter sidekick" slack but they managed to even drag him down with all the dour poo poo by the time the season was done.
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JazzFlight posted:Ugh, the whole Oliver + Felicity thing... I just don't get it. Am I the only one who would prefer her dead and gone, permanently? She sticks out like a sore thumb as a made-up Mary Sue fanfic character who's never presented as being wrong even though she constantly is again and again. I hate her dumb mom, too. Use Flashpoint as a reset button, make Ollie/Laurel the main couple, turn Felicity back into bitter hacker Felicity as the new Calculator. Boom.
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Asimo posted:The problem with Felicity isn't that she's a bad character. She's a good character, and fun... but only when she's allowed to be the fun quirky banter sidekick. However the writers for this show are so incompetent that the only way to know how to do romance is with the maximum amount of contrived angst as possible, which is against her character from the first two seasons and is just a massive drag in general. I wish they'd get over that sort of lovely writing, but every romance on every CW show is a similar atrocity so it's got to be some sort of network mandated thing. I think I heard it on a podcast from some guy whos done a bunch of TV but it kind of made sense: show writers for the most part are people who come from pretty well off families, go to college prep, then some ivy league college, and finally get jobs writing scripts and because of that they have really stunted social lives and life experiences and so have no real depth to draw on for how 'normal' people talk and interact. I mean if the show is about rich white people thats in their wheelhouse, but they rely on tropes and cliches for everything else because thats the crutch they have (character is in a gang? he has to call everyone 'dawg', constantly. CSI practically writes itself!). Then of course they become execs too. Thats not to say there aren't screen writers who are the complete opposite out there, obviously.
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And to contrast the above:Stephen Amell posted:I think that it’s important to remember that relationships on the show don’t have to be only defined by romance. Oliver and Felicity could have a wonderful, fulfilling, dynamic relationship and not be together, right?
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Blackchamber posted:I think I heard it on a podcast from some guy whos done a bunch of TV but it kind of made sense: show writers for the most part are people who come from pretty well off families, go to college prep, then some ivy league college, and finally get jobs writing scripts and because of that they have really stunted social lives and life experiences and so have no real depth to draw on for how 'normal' people talk and interact. I mean if the show is about rich white people thats in their wheelhouse, but they rely on tropes and cliches for everything else because thats the crutch they have (character is in a gang? he has to call everyone 'dawg', constantly. CSI practically writes itself!). Then of course they become execs too. Thats not to say there aren't screen writers who are the complete opposite out there, obviously. There's a few issues that compound to give us a very limited pool of showrunners. For one thing, almost all "creative" fields have a huge lack of diversity. Its rare to find a creative writing program that is not Trump Rally White. Then there's the ugly fact that to be a staff writer you've got to roll the dice and get lucky. You do need a great script; even hacks started with a strong script that somebody somewhere enjoyed. But your odds of getting lucky depend on how long you're willing to work in the Hollywood meatgrinder as an unpaid or sub-minimum wage worker. That's the reason why I largely stick to sending off the occasional script or short story to interested parties and just go with that. On top of all those factors, you've got a lot of subconscious bias when showrunners hire new writers. Its not a case of latent racism, but your chances of kismet are going to be higher if you're an affable fairly well-off white dude. The good news here is that the current pool of assistants and spec writers are much more diverse than at any point prior. To tie this all back to Arrow, The CW actually has a fantastic mentorship program for new writers. They're very selective but if chosen you're basically mentored by current staff and usually write a spec script for a current CW show. I know Arrow has hired a writer or two from the program, as has Supernatural.
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Narcissus1916 posted:To tie this all back to Arrow, The CW actually has a fantastic mentorship program for new writers. They're very selective but if chosen you're basically mentored by current staff and usually write a spec script for a current CW show. I know Arrow has hired a writer or two from the program, as has Supernatural. So basically you get borged into writing CW typical dumb poo poo instead of good scripts? 
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No I don't think there's any kid touching involved.
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Narcissus1916 posted:To tie this all back to Arrow, The CW actually has a fantastic mentorship program for new writers. They're very selective but if chosen you're basically mentored by current staff and usually write a spec script for a current CW show. I know Arrow has hired a writer or two from the program, as has Supernatural. I see a contradiction here.
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If you can't do, teach.
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Alexeythegreat posted:I see a contradiction here. Garbage in, garbage out. 
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Its abundantly obvious that The CW superhero shows only have a finite number of decent writers. Legends, Flash, and Arrow were all severely lacking this year.
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Jul 8, 2016 04:28
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The Flash had the same writers for seasons 1 and 2. They always sucked, they just weren't exposed as much in season 1.
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That and Reverse Flash was a way better villain than Zoom. Zoom loving sucked.
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Zoom was good when they actually revealed who he was, if they had done that at the midseason (and had cut out all of the Legends of Tomorrow tie-in stuff) it would've been fine. I do agree that Reverse-Flash is the more iconic and memorable villain though.
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Evil Jay was entertaining. He played crazy well enough to believe his motivations and explanations being nonsense was just a result of that, and not the writers. But Zoom and Good Jay sucked.
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Thwomp posted:Jesus. They need to poo poo or get off the GL pot. Don't hold your breath, GL is slated for DC Films
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I don't want to see Lanterns on TV.
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