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qhat posted:is this guy a loving idiot or something Evidence: The last 6 years.
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qhat posted:wtf He means the bosses of the private companies that own the NHS.
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What's everyone's opinions on the Lib Dems? They've been a butt of some jokes for a while but they don't seem so bad, and they've contributed plenty to the UK. They seem to be gaining traction as people become angry with the Tories and Labour seem to be rejecting Corbyn, who could be seen as a symbol for further left views.
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FT posted:Michael Gove has taken aim at bankers and big businesses as he set out his case to take over from David Cameron as Conservative Party leader and UK Prime Minister. What madness is this, the fanatically market worshiping Gove is attacking the bankers whilst Little Red Book loving McDonnoll is busy sticking up for there interests 
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Jul 1, 2016 12:06
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Purge the Labour right into the lib-dems where they belong and make the Labour party represent labour.
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The lib dems will promise literally anything and then not bother to deliver.
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Megaspel posted:What's everyone's opinions on the Lib Dems? They've been a butt of some jokes for a while but they don't seem so bad, and they've contributed plenty to the UK. They seem to be gaining traction as people become angry with the Tories and Labour seem to be rejecting Corbyn, who could be seen as a symbol for further left views. What do you think they have contributed to the UK, other than putting the Tories into power of course?
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Megaspel posted:What's everyone's opinions on the Lib Dems? They've been a butt of some jokes for a while but they don't seem so bad, and they've contributed plenty to the UK. They seem to be gaining traction as people become angry with the Tories and Labour seem to be rejecting Corbyn, who could be seen as a symbol for further left views. they're a bunch of ineffectual, power-hungry spivs who recently wrecked their party for a second rate role in government and whose collusion with Cameron is one of the proximate causes of Cameron offering a referendum vote in the first place. I wouldn't piss on a libdem if he was on fire
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CoolCab posted:The lib dems will promise literally anything and then not bother to deliver. yeah I can't think of any other parties taht are guilty of this
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Junior G-man posted:Hahaha
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I love that putting Alan B'stard in charge would be a net positive for the UK right now.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Jul 1, 2016 12:10
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Hm, actually thinking about it now 100mill/week is only 5.2bill more a year. The 2015/2016 NHS budget was £116.4bill so really that's not an unrealistic amount
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Jul 1, 2016 12:11
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qhat posted:Purge the Labour right into the lib-dems where they belong and make the Labour party represent labour. they'll auto-purge in a bit, no need to rush probably left-labour should consider a deal with the greens at that point, maybe even nationalists in scotland and wales.
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A great plan I can get behind.
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:they're a bunch of ineffectual, power-hungry spivs who recently wrecked their party for a second rate role in government and whose collusion with Cameron is one of the proximate causes of Cameron offering a referendum vote in the first place. I wouldn't piss on a libdem if he was on fire But tell us how you really feel? This is pro-click as hell.
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quote:Gove says he has no expectation of Article 50 being triggered by the end of this calendar year. He doesn’t actually put a timetable on it at all. The TRUE BELIEVER OF BREXIT seems to have gotten some cold feet on the issue.
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Jul 1, 2016 12:19
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OvineYeast posted:they'll auto-purge in a bit, no need to rush I think under FPTP there is, maybe 'responsibility' is true strong a word, but a very good argument for a progressive electoral pact. How many constituencies that returned Tory had a majority 'not-Tory' (although this is probably true for almost every MP in parliament). Labour/Libs/Greens etc have different stances, sure, but there should be enough common ground there to return a Not-Tory government.
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LemonDrizzle posted:That's about the increase that you'd get from inflation alone if the budget was kept constant in real terms. To be fair, we should be talking about a decrease from deflation instead.
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Jul 1, 2016 12:24
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Junior G-man posted:The TRUE BELIEVER OF BREXIT seems to have gotten some cold feet on the issue. amazing. it's almost like he's full of poo poo
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Jul 1, 2016 12:25
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what's even more astounding is that theresa may is looking pretty good right now
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748836602156347392 This is bad for Britain.
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LemonyTang posted:I think under FPTP there is, maybe 'responsibility' is true strong a word, but a very good argument for a progressive electoral pact. How many constituencies that returned Tory had a majority 'not-Tory' (although this is probably true for almost every MP in parliament). I'm wary of including the Lib Dems in a 'progressive' movement since 2010, but I'm in a party which still contains the Lab right so...
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qhat posted:what's even more astounding is that theresa may is looking pretty good right now She
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qhat posted:Somehow Labour have managed to avoid keeping the Tories off the front page of the papers today. Astonishing. All it took was for Boris to make the single most surprising and baffling decision by one person I've seen in years. (Most surprising and baffling decision by a collective remains a close call between Leave and Donald Trump)
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748836602156347392 As a remain voter, i don't want to see a second referendum because gently caress britain blowfish posted:She she's more electable because 1) daily mail said so 2) she's not michael gove
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Jul 1, 2016 12:31
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George Osborne has just abandoned his pledge to eliminate the deficit by 2020.
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Junior G-man posted:But tell us how you really feel? no sir, i don't like them
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They are going to delay Art50 primarily because they want to get a new general election in before the final effects of Brexit start to affect the general population. So my best guess is an Art50 triggering just before an GE in the spring.
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GaussianCopula posted:They are going to delay Art50 primarily because they want to get a new general election in before the final effects of Brexit start to affect the general population. So my best guess is an Art50 triggering just before an GE in the spring. off you gently caress, Nazi
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So Osborne has abandoned his fiscal target, and I poo poo you not Michael Gove used the term 'entrepreneurial state' in his leadership speech to refer to more government investment in R&D. That phrase is directly lifted from one of the economists from McDonnell's lecture series. Regardless of what people may think of Corbyn I strongly believe he's had a big effect on the Overton window. Also: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748842353188896768 Thus proving that even tearing each other apart will only lose the Labour party one point.
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McDonnell's joining the bugfuck crazy brigade: http://www.politico.eu/article/john-mcdonnell-leaving-eu-ends-free-movement/ quote:John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, on Friday set out the Labour Party’s economic plan, saying that after the U.K. exits the EU, “free movement of labor and people will come to an end.” LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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good news even more good news https://opendemocracy.net/uk/neal-lawson/labouring-on-its-time-to-leap quote:Meanwhile as you read this (and maybe weep) UKIP, its mission accomplished, is in a bunker somewhere working out with Aaron Banks how to morph into a populist and authoritarian workers’ party to win seats from Sunderland, to Stoke to South Wales. Given the mess it’s in, about as far from a government in waiting that you can get, and despite the mess the Tories are in, Labour is likely to be crushed at an election whenever it is and whoever is the leader at the time.
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LemonyTang posted:I think under FPTP there is, maybe 'responsibility' is true strong a word, but a very good argument for a progressive electoral pact. How many constituencies that returned Tory had a majority 'not-Tory' (although this is probably true for almost every MP in parliament). Just remember, in the last general election Tories, DUP and UKIP took home a combined 50.1% of the votes. Even under a more democratic system the bastards alliance currently would have an edge.
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If UKIP and Arron Banks create Project Fash and it wins seats in the North it's all over for The United Kingdom of England and Wales. And me. I will be off.
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LemonDrizzle posted:McDonnell's joining the bugfuck crazy brigade: To be fair he is saying here that freedom of movement will end, and he wants free trade and protection for EU nationals. He isn't promising them, just saying those are the aims.
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jabby posted:So Osborne has abandoned his fiscal target, and I poo poo you not Michael Gove used the term 'entrepreneurial state' in his leadership speech to refer to more government investment in R&D. That phrase is directly lifted from one of the economists from McDonnell's lecture series. mcdonnell nicked it from mazzucato, whose book has been positively reviewed in well-known bastions of ultraleftist ubermarxism, such as The Financial Times I dunno as I've remarked before, in terms of actual economic policy rather than rhetoric, Corbyn's team has not been all that leftist
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Megaspel posted:What's everyone's opinions on the Lib Dems? They've been a butt of some jokes for a while but they don't seem so bad, and they've contributed plenty to the UK. They seem to be gaining traction as people become angry with the Tories and Labour seem to be rejecting Corbyn, who could be seen as a symbol for further left views. Great Scott! Marty! If you can hear me you're trapped in early 2010! We need you to change the future. It's your grandchildren Marty, your grandchildren are part of the New New Nazi party. You have to change it, one second I'll get you a list... Oh boy Marty it's not good, this list is too long to send across the trans temporal corridor you've found yourself in. Just remember, don't trust the Lib Dems and... good luck, we're counting on you!
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