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Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

effectual posted:

So if neither oakland or vegas put up much cash, what will the Raiders do? Stay in old Oco a few more years then try again?

Yes, provided the Chargers move to LA. If they stay put, then the option defers to the Raiders, so they might do that. But negotiations have started in Vegas with "provide more money than anyone ever" as a starting point, and the Raider/Casino mans delegation wasn't laughed out of the room, so I'm optimistic a deal can get done. If not, Mark probably needs to sell his majority share of the team to get a deal done in Oakland.

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Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine
The Chargers should make a presentation to put a stadium at Seaport Village. Apart from the seawall, that place is a blight on the earth, and I think the contenders for redevelopment include a Ripley's Aquarium and a Fish Market, so it's not like they're playing against the big boys.

warcrimes
Jul 6, 2013

I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life. :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:

Volkerball posted:

Yes, provided the Chargers move to LA. If they stay put, then the option defers to the Raiders, so they might do that. But negotiations have started in Vegas with "provide more money than anyone ever" as a starting point, and the Raider/Casino mans delegation wasn't laughed out of the room, so I'm optimistic a deal can get done. If not, Mark probably needs to sell his majority share of the team to get a deal done in Oakland.

A $200 million difference isn't that big, a deal will get done.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

effectual posted:

So if neither oakland or vegas put up much cash, what will the Raiders do? Stay in old Oco a few more years then try again?

San Antonio. :getin:

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
I would be fine with either this or Vegas

a messed up horse
Mar 11, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
yeah Texas needs 3 NFL teams

a messed up horse
Mar 11, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
holy poo poo California has 4 right now

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

a messed up horse posted:

holy poo poo California has 4 right now

Four franchises but only 2 teams worth of players.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

a messed up horse posted:

holy poo poo California has 4 right now

California is underrepresented in NFL teams per capita.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
The stadium site near the unlv campus is out since Southwest Airlines opposes it. A shame, but now we're down to three sites finally lol

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

They should still build it there, but entirely underground

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

The Glumslinger posted:

They should still build it there, but entirely underground

and seal it off once everyone is inside, agreed

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.
Go Yucca Mountain Raiders!

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
I envision a stadium with a slot machine and sports gambling screen at every seat. Tickets are free as a comp if you gamble enough each week. This could work if you make the goal post a stripper pole.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
with a firing range in the parking lot where you can shoot machine guns

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

also uhhhhhhh instead of guys coming around to sell you hot dogs they give you advertisements for hookers. i bet they do that there

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Putting a football team in Vegas is going to make the Minnesota Love Boat look like a Mormon wake.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

why do they call it lost vegas anyhow. its right there

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Cavauro posted:

why do they call it lost vegas anyhow. its right there

They should call it Lost Wages:iamafag:

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Why that

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

the trick to gambling is to always draw the correct card or roll the correct number and never to pick the wrong ones. You will be a millionaire

Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.

Chichevache posted:

They should call it Lost Wages:iamafag:

That's what it's called in Leisure Suit Larry :wink:

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

the trick to gambling is to always draw the correct card or roll the correct number and never to pick the wrong ones. You will be a millionaire

It's also very important that you bet money. That's key.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I heard that the San Diego vote made the ballot on the radio. I don't know if this is new information.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

kiimo posted:

I heard that the San Diego vote made the ballot on the radio. I don't know if this is new information.

New info, not really a surprise. They needed 65,000 signatures to get on the ballot and they submitted 110,000.

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine
The news is that they went through and verified that the signatures were valid so it's on the ballot. The other TOT increase measure (Corey Briggs) hasn't yet been checked, I think.

It doesn't matter, though. Unless the Chargers have a major winning season, there's no way the measure passes.

The city attorney has asked the state supreme court to rule on the stadium initiatives with regards to the 50% or 2/3 thing that's been going on, but it remains to be seen if they will do so.

aperion
May 15, 2007

i want to believe
Grimey Drawer

Glass of Milk posted:

The news is that they went through and verified that the signatures were valid so it's on the ballot. The other TOT increase measure (Corey Briggs) hasn't yet been checked, I think.

It doesn't matter, though. Unless the Chargers have a major winning season, there's no way the measure passes.

The city attorney has asked the state supreme court to rule on the stadium initiatives with regards to the 50% or 2/3 thing that's been going on, but it remains to be seen if they will do so.

They have to qualify for the playoffs by the time voting happens for the team to create any traction on the issue to erase the memory of the poo poo 2015 season and before. Otherwise the active season won't do poo poo for the Chargers chances whatsoever.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

Lessail posted:

A shame, but now we're down to three sites finally lol

whoops, there's now 9 sites and it's 2.1 billion lol

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

I'm sure the Fertitta brothers could probably still afford that

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
https://twitter.com/RickVelotta/status/758682015130456068

jfc stop it with cashman

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
Nevada, and Vegas especially, are polling in strong opposition against using public funds for a new stadium in Vegas. This might be because of the $500m minimum that Davis has requested, but it might also be that Adelson can use his own goddamn money to build the new stadium.

Odds on Vegas voting to use public fubds without allowing the public to get involved à la Cobb county?

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine
The SD Chamber of Commerce came out in favor of the Chargers proposal. It's still not going to pass, though.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
Isn't Jerry Sanders on the chamber of commerce?

lol

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?

Zurreco posted:

Nevada, and Vegas especially, are polling in strong opposition against using public funds for a new stadium in Vegas. This might be because of the $500m minimum that Davis has requested, but it might also be that Adelson can use his own goddamn money to build the new stadium.

Odds on Vegas voting to use public fubds without allowing the public to get involved à la Cobb county?

very, very high

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

If the public funds come out of Vegas hotel room taxes going up, why would the residents of Vegas be upset about that? Do they think it'll negatively impact tourist dollars spent?

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
Because Adelson dropping half a billion on Trump would've been bad enough without him turning around and telling everyone that he can't afford to build an unecessary stadium without dipping into their tax money.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Zurreco posted:

Because Adelson dropping half a billion on Trump would've been bad enough without him turning around and telling everyone that he can't afford to build an unecessary stadium without dipping into their tax money.

I don't think Adelson is getting any of the team though. He's got no incentive to throw stupid money around. An election is a different story.

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
He'll own the stadium probably. Who knows. Either way, he is involved in the build process and any associated wooing.

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?

Leperflesh posted:

If the public funds come out of Vegas hotel room taxes going up, why would the residents of Vegas be upset about that? Do they think it'll negatively impact tourist dollars spent?

To paraphrase the deadspin response to this, those taxes aren't being raised for that purpose. They could be going to other stuff. It would be possible to raise hospitality taxes and improve schools or roads or housing for poor people

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Yeah, that's fair.

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