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Procrastinator posted:But then what do you call the third one????? Now You Three Me
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DaveWoo posted:Now You Three Me The Horseman: Four See Me Five The Magical Six
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When do they do the Fast and Furious crossover?
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As soon as Paul Walker signs on.
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Propaganda Machine posted:As soon as Paul Walker signs on. The greatest illusion of all time; Paul Walker was alive all along.
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I've read the last few pages and still don't understand how this is the topic we're on
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Jul 3, 2016 01:46
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Oliver made a throwaway joke about Now You See Me 2 in last Sundays episode
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Also there won't be a new episode until July 24. But here's this week's web exclusive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQwMCQFgQgo Happy Independence Day!
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:It's made good money ($164mill international). There will be a third. Not necessarily true. First movies have to double their gross because theaters get 50% of it, so NYSM2 would've had to make 180m to break even just on production costs, then they would've had to recoup the ad buys (which might've been $0 since nobody seems to know the movie exists) and then the biggest cherry on the poo poo sundae is that international gross reports are 100% straight up bullshit. Studios are free to claim whatever gross they want for international sales because there's no way of verifying or conclusively discredit and a studio is more than likely not wanting to admit a franchise is damaged because it hurts future plans. The last bit is very important because even if the studio is publicly traded (most studios aren't) it is not mandatory that shareholders are informed about finances if it's deemed that revealing the information could harm revenue (which admitting a franchise has failed would be). For the latest international gross bullshit you only need to look at Warcraft. quote:There were claims of fraud on Chinese social media: http://chinafilminsider.com/china-box-office-warcraft-ticket-sales-come-scrutiny/ Love Crime fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Love Crime posted:Not necessarily true. First movies have to double their gross because theaters get 50% of it,
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Ticket sale grosses haven't actually been relevant news for decades now because the studios get at least 80% of their revenue through other streams and these days the initial theatrical run are barely more than an advertising campaign for the home media sales but those stats still get reported by the trades and websites because who the gently caress cares about regional breakdowns of blu-ray sales or international TV rights trade agreements for a movie that fell out of cinemas 3 months ago. Also movies never 'break even' or lose money purely on ticket sale matching the production budget because the Hollywood accounting process is set up in such a way that the movies pretty much always end up losing money on paper because of *reasons*. There's a whoooole bunch of stories of writers and crew who took points on a movie but even though the movie was incredibly successful from a box office point of view they never got paid out because it officially never made a profit. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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kevin smith talked on his podcast now about talking to an a-list actor (prolly affleck/damon) about the production process one studio has a formula that can accurately predict how much a movie will earn within an acceptable range he also said it hasnt failed yet so it sure as poo poo cant be disney because hoo boy john carter
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There's usually at least one every year. It's a blockbuster that's not really a good movie but not glaringly worse than a lot of other blockbusters that get released around it. It just bombs due to bad word of mouth. 2015 it was Fantastic Four. It wasn't a good movie, it was a boring and bland movie, I don't know it it was really a 9% RT movie though. But it became poison at the box office. Generally people will go see mediocre blockbusters, but you reach that critical mass of bad buzz and it just tanks hard. I don't really think FF was all that much worse than BvS, but the latter somehow managed to make $850mil before bad buzz killed the box office draw.
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Love Crime posted:Not necessarily true. First movies have to double their gross because theaters get 50% of it, so NYSM2 would've had to make 180m to break even just on production costs, then they would've had to recoup the ad buys (which might've been $0 since nobody seems to know the movie exists) and then the biggest cherry on the poo poo sundae is that international gross reports are 100% straight up bullshit. Studios are free to claim whatever gross they want for international sales because there's no way of verifying or conclusively discredit and a studio is more than likely not wanting to admit a franchise is damaged because it hurts future plans. Current worldwide on NYSM2 is $238,249,643 Without China that would come to $156,307,187 Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:kevin smith talked on his podcast now about talking to an a-list actor (prolly affleck/damon) about the production process John Carter came out in 2012, have they had a major failure since then? They made money on Guardians of the Galaxy and Antman.
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sbaldrick posted:John Carter came out in 2012, have they had a major failure since then? The Good Dinosaur only made $120 million, which as far as a Pixar film is concerned is a major flop.
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swickles posted:The Good Dinosaur only made $120 million, which as far as a Pixar film is concerned is a major flop. That's ok, they will pay for it with the merchandise from the Broadway version of Frozen.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:kevin smith talked on his podcast now about talking to an a-list actor (prolly affleck/damon) about the production process Fivethirtyeight and Andy Greenwald did a podcast with a guy who gets hired to do these predictions. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/podcast-the-guy-who-predicts-whether-a-movie-will-bomb-months-before-its-made/
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LividLiquid posted:This isn't even close to being true. Uh, yes it is. http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=32164 The average is 50%, if a movie is kept in theaters for a very long time it can even go higher than 50%, even up to 80%. Why would you even argue otherwise? This is extremely common knowledge. Humbug Scoolbus posted:Current worldwide on NYSM2 is $238,249,643 Without China that would come to $156,307,187 If we took the international numbers as actually being 100% true and disregarded ad buys that would be 50ish million profit. A studio isn't spending 90m in the hopes of making half of that. Movie would definitely be considered a disappointment and make a sequel unlikely but possible if they retooled it by making it with a much lower budget and writing out a lot of the 'stars', a common fix to lackluster sequels. Love Crime fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Jul 12, 2016 |
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Love Crime posted:Uh, yes it is. That thing you just linked says that it is not 50%. It's a swinging percentage that starts out in the neighborhood of 80% to the studio and then over the weeks swings toward 80% to the theater. I mean, sure if you are just looking at the raw percentage number over time, the percentage number itself averages out to 50%. However since the vast, vast, vast majority of a film's take happens in the first few weeks, studios are getting way more than 50% of the overall ticket sales. And films that aren't doing fantabulous are going to have an even higher percentage number going to the studio than a block buster, because they aren't in theaters for as long.
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Gyges posted:That thing you just linked says that it is not 50%. It's a swinging percentage that starts out in the neighborhood of 80% to the studio and then over the weeks swings toward 80% to the theater. I mean, sure if you are just looking at the raw percentage number over time, the percentage number itself averages out to 50%. However since the vast, vast, vast majority of a film's take happens in the first few weeks, studios are getting way more than 50% of the overall ticket sales. Uh, no. Maybe don't read one thing and ignore the rest is my advice. It can begin at 30% but by the full run of the movie it averages out to around 50% or even higher of the gross that the studio doesn't get because it ends up wildly swinging to higher than 50%. Read below for proof. quote:Often times it's on a scale detailed in the contract. The usual scale is similar to the following And if you're thinking "well maybe international is different!" quote:Studios usually receive only 40-50% of the total box office income. For instance, in Japan in 1999, total box office income was 182,835 million yen but the income distributed to the studios was 82,794 million yen. Nerds tripping over themselves to argue poo poo they have no idea what they're talking about ITT Love Crime fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jul 12, 2016 |
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This has literally nothing to do with anything, stop slapfighting about it.
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Did John do a segment about Hollywood accounting or something? Anyway, I liked John's hate mail segment. Good insults are hard to come by, and can be very creative.
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He very briefly made a throwaway joke about how now you see me 2 is a throwaway movie. I acquit. Edit: also Shannon was stabbed
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Hey, remember when this show used to actually have episodes every week? Nah me neither. Here's some youtube stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxfqkrO5ww
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Remember when this show was premised on being comedy paired with delving into an interesting but little-known issue instead of just a bunch of cute animal videos?
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SlothfulCobra posted:Remember when this show was premised on being comedy paired with delving into an interesting but little-known issue instead of just a bunch of cute animal videos? It started out with a salmon cannon, you all knew what you were getting into. 
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SlothfulCobra posted:Remember when this show was premised on being comedy paired with delving into an interesting but little-known issue instead of just a bunch of cute animal videos?
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Josh Lyman posted:There were no animal videos this week. There's a very musical cat out there that'd disagree.
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Josh Lyman posted:There were no animal videos this week. Open Source Idiom posted:There's a very musical cat out there that'd disagree. John Mellencamp may look more like Beast from Disney's Beauty And The Beast every year but that's still a really hurtful thing to say about him. 
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:John Mellencamp may look more like Beast from Disney's Beauty And The Beast every year but that's still a really hurtful thing to say about him. Well he did used to go by John Cougar.
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John's segment on the RNC was beautiful.
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Holy poo poo, that Gingrich interview. That was like a Colbert Report bit but its real life!
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No comments on the Ailes tribute? That was pure magic.  Like a useless, racist greatest hits.
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VagueRant posted:Holy poo poo, that Gingrich interview. That was like a Colbert Report bit but its real life! The reporter tried so hard, I could feel her spirit being crushed through that interview.
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VagueRant posted:Holy poo poo, that Gingrich interview. That was like a Colbert Report bit but its real life! Pack it up, truthiness has gone mainstream...
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Holy poo poo I just watched it. Can we put Erdogan in charge of purging America?
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The reporter tried so hard, I could feel her spirit being crushed through that interview. She should have just cut him off after his bullshit proved indefatigable. Like honestly, the producers know that dreck will get memed or viralized or referenced on yet another stupid "you won't believe what (____) does/says!" bit. If more of the media actually cut people off for lying to their faces... but no, gotta maintain that faux objectivity.
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I'm surprised he didn't bother covering the weird dealings behind closed doors that resulted in procedural discrepancies at the RNC. It sounds boring at first, but it was the last gasp of the Trump haters trying to make their stand and be squashed. There was also some hubub at the protests outside of the RNC that would be worth mentioning. The unauthorized use of music is kind of a soft and easy issue to confront on the other hand. It's been done for a long while, and it was really mostly an excuse for him to bring in celebrities to show off. Shame I'm not hip enough to recognize them. Playing the end of the world as we know it was probably the highlight of that segment, but it totally fits with the narrative the Republicans have that the world already has gone off a cliff despite any real evidence of such.
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