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Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

so am I the only one who thinks reviewing the runs and giving them a numerical score is kinda daft

I think it's nice for people who want to watch old runs they missed and don't know which ones are worth their time.

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AvidAcid
May 30, 2004

oh christ
how do you know if a run is a 7 vs 7.5

itskage
Aug 26, 2003


SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

so am I the only one who thinks reviewing the runs and giving them a numerical score is kinda daft

In a vacuum sure.

But it's just so people who want to know which ones they might be interested n if they are archive diving. Other wise you're presented with days of potential mediocre runs to sort though.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Phendrana Drifts is one of the most chill zones in all of video games

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

so am I the only one who thinks reviewing the runs and giving them a numerical score is kinda daft

"which runs are good" and "which vods do I watch" are pretty much the most common questions for the thread, for the next two weeks

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
He's reaching sync speed!

BeanBandit
Mar 15, 2001

Beanbandit?
Son of a bitch!
That infinite speed morphball glitch...

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

so am I the only one who thinks reviewing the runs and giving them a numerical score is kinda daft

Yes, it's actually pretty drat useful

SWMadness
Jul 16, 2011

Excellent.

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

so am I the only one who thinks reviewing the runs and giving them a numerical score is kinda daft

I'm not paying attention to the actual numerical score, but hearing the pros and cons of each run (good/bad couch commentary, technical exploits, whether or not it shows off new tricks, etc) is pretty helpful.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

so am I the only one who thinks reviewing the runs and giving them a numerical score is kinda daft

this post gets a 2 out of 10

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

I came in late to this run, is it a gimmick run, or is it a Contractually Obligated Metroid run?

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
That DK race will probably end up being the best run of the marathon. I can't picture anything topping that.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

It's watch how bad we can break the poo poo out of a great game

^ Tetris?

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

I came in late to this run, is it a gimmick run, or is it a Contractually Obligated Metroid run?

Obligate with a tiny gimmick, donation incentive for the suit. So if this is your first time seeing Metroid Prime it's your standard, decent run. If you've seen it before then it's pretty meh.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Sage Grimm posted:

Obligate with a tiny gimmick, donation incentive for the suit. So if this is your first time seeing Metroid Prime it's your standard, decent run. If you've seen it before then it's pretty meh.

Basically what I figured. Even MP2 or 3 would be more interesting. Has the third even been featured on *GDQ?

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
how nice is the suit, i can 't watch abd also accidently hit this thread but hey might as well ask

Erata
May 11, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

mandatory lesbian posted:

how nice is the suit, i can 't watch abd also accidently hit this thread but hey might as well ask

It looks like a mustard spill and a ketchup spill went sour together.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
It's..uh, a very unflattering green.

EDIT: V Probably the most succinct way of putting it.

Sage Grimm fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jul 4, 2016

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Remember those bottles of weird-coloured ketchup designed to appeal to kids back in the 90s? Basically that.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
i look forward to seeing this suit on the streets then

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Minrad posted:

"which runs are good" and "which vods do I watch" are pretty much the most common questions for the thread, for the next two weeks

I guess, but my point was more that the only really useful criteria for whether or not you'd like it is pretty much "are you interested in the game?". Everything else is subject to that.

like this thread really liked the DK race and I just found it boring because I don't find the game very engaging or interesting as a run so I wouldn't recommend it much

and if there's a real knockout of a run that you'd never expect like Tetris was a couple of GDQs back, people usually just recommend it on its own. a rating thing seems a bit dumb since it comes down to one's own personal taste in video games a lot

like right now I am kinda snoozing through the metroid prime run as well, not because it's necessarily bad but because I just don't find the game interesting to watch

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Metroid runs as a whole are very much 'been there, done that', but they're expected. Save/Kill the Animals usually accounts for a good amount of the donation total by the end of the event.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

I guess, but my point was more that the only really useful criteria for whether or not you'd like it is pretty much "are you interested in the game?". Everything else is subject to that.

like this thread really liked the DK race and I just found it boring because I don't find the game very engaging or interesting as a run so I wouldn't recommend it much

and if there's a real knockout of a run that you'd never expect like Tetris was a couple of GDQs back, people usually just recommend it on its own. a rating thing seems a bit dumb since it comes down to one's own personal taste in video games a lot

like right now I am kinda snoozing through the metroid prime run as well, not because it's necessarily bad but because I just don't find the game interesting to watch

Personally speaking, there are plenty of runs of games I've never played or would be all that interested in playing that I ended up enjoying based on recommendations from the thread. For instance, last AGDQ's Animorphs.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

LethalGeek posted:

It's watch how bad we can break the poo poo out of a great game

^ Tetris?

You just reminded me of that insanely cringey Stepmania keyboard "skill showcase" AGDQ had as a substitute for Tetris. I hope they don't have anything like that this year

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Pakled posted:

Personally speaking, there are plenty of runs of games I've never played or would be all that interested in playing that I ended up enjoying based on recommendations from the thread. For instance, last AGDQ's Animorphs.

Animorphs is the sort of run I would define as knockout good and would have people talking about it anyway. Since that was a run so good it made me actually learn the speedrun myself (it's painful don't)

anyway my point is that you really only need to state the really good runs or the really bad runs, everything else in the middle is kinda really subject to individual taste in video games

SWMadness
Jul 16, 2011

Excellent.

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:


anyway my point is that you really only need to state the really good runs or the really bad runs, everything else in the middle is kinda really subject to individual taste in video games

Like Pakled said, if the commentator is really good, or if there's some amazing exploit they show off, I'll watch a run for a game I normally have no interest in. It's tough to figure out which runs those are without getting recommendations from a place like this thread.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

Internet Kraken posted:

You just reminded me of that insanely cringey Stepmania keyboard "skill showcase" AGDQ had as a substitute for Tetris. I hope they don't have anything like that this year

That poo poo was weird and dumb but apparently goons in the minority thinking so

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

LethalGeek posted:

That poo poo was weird and dumb but apparently goons in the minority thinking so

Yeah, that run was actually well received across the internet in spite of the fact goons seem pretty undivided on it being poo poo.

i don't really know why

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
General age of the internet versus general age of goons in games forum?

my parents boyfriend
Jan 28, 2007

Angel of Piratey Death, Yarrr!
I don't think it was less impressive than Tetris but it kind of moves too fast to see so it wasn't as good considering most people have probably never played Stepmania. Everyone has played Tetris and most of us aren't amazing at it.

HoneyBoy
Oct 12, 2012

get murked son
the Stepmania poo poo was just some apm wankfest

it doesn't help that stepmania music is weebstep poo poo and nightcore garbage

oh also

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dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

I have played stepmania for years, the Tetris guys are way more fun to watch. 20-30 buttons per second in a rhythm game is obviously insane but it's just not that much to watch imo even fully appreciating how hard it is.

my parents boyfriend
Jan 28, 2007

Angel of Piratey Death, Yarrr!
If I remember right, though, they eventually busted out the weird game modes and that went over a bit better.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

I can least say everyone the room I was with was all looking at each other going "wtf is this"

Also yeah the "music" was a bunch of stupid noise that made the whole thing more dreadful

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Ironsoviet posted:

I don't think it was less impressive than Tetris but it kind of moves too fast to see so it wasn't as good considering most people have probably never played Stepmania. Everyone has played Tetris and most of us aren't amazing at it.

Yeah like, I know that the stepmania showcase guy was very skilled and coordinated, but it just wasn't visually interesting at all to watch a guy's hands go really fast while arrows move across a screen. Tetris showcases tend to be at least visually interesting as well as being more relatable. More subjectively, I thought the music they chose was garbage.

Ironsoviet posted:

If I remember right, though, they eventually busted out the weird game modes and that went over a bit better.

I don't remember that, I watched the Stepmania showcase live and it was all just plain old black background, no gimmicks.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
The gimmicks were what the arrows were doing, it didn't change the background at all unfortunately. The showcase should have gone
"This is how fast a high-end song is like in top-tier Stepmania (NIGHTCORE NIGHTCORE GODAWFUL NIGHTCORE)"
"And here it is with modifiers.."
"And here is what Stepmania can do with its scripting (Break out that Undertale song or something similar)"
"And here is a comparison of someone doing their utmost on a pad!"

If it's always balls to the wall then there's no comparison to make.

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Ironsoviet posted:

If I remember right, though, they eventually busted out the weird game modes and that went over a bit better.

they did one song with one single mod on it to make the notes wobble a bit while they played and that was it

given the incredible depths of poo poo you can do with Stepmania, that was a really poor "showcase" of the game because some of the gimmick maps available for stepmania are loving sweet

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

they did one song with one single mod on it to make the notes wobble a bit while they played and that was it

given the incredible depths of poo poo you can do with Stepmania, that was a really poor "showcase" of the game because some of the gimmick maps available for stepmania are loving sweet

Isn't there a really great gimmick map that is Undertale theme?

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kGi9LE21dU

EDIT: V But that's the thing, that poo poo is no big deal for him but it looks visually impressive for amateurs to the scene which makes up the bulk of watchers.

Sage Grimm fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jul 4, 2016

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dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

The stepmania guy was playing "serious" at cmod 1000 anyone that can do that barely needs to see the arrows to know what to do. wobbly arrows, weird scroll direction, spinning arrows, etc. are pretty trivial when you're that good.

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