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Photex posted:Not surprised that cockbag JoshOG was being a scumbag, he's also a co-owner of the site. I feel like you could safely call any popular streamer that spends a lot of time on gambling or giveaways a scumbag.
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I just heard about this and holy poo poo. Valve really better step in on this one, on top of other things. This is fifty kinds of hosed esp. when you see their promotional videos. Then again honestly how illegal it is to do what they're doing, they need more than that.
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So there's like 10 million people watching youtube videos of "personalities" gambling. Well. I kinda could understand people watching a stream of a guy gambling because he's queuing. Watching a video of it not so much. The whole situation seems to have gotten wildly out of control.
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Haha, this owns. I hope someone has to hang for this
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Bohemian Nights posted:Haha, this owns. I hope someone has to hang for this I think we can go ahead and hang all streamers on youtube with high subscription counts, the world will be a better place
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Jul 4, 2016 09:59
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I just wanna chime in on the JoshOG hate and say the only times I've watched his stream he's come across as someone I would describe as a 'stupid loving stoner' so it doesn't surprise me one bit that he's doing stupid poo poo like this
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Jul 4, 2016 11:37
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This is the most interesting thing to happen to the game in years.
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In other news, someone has apparently found a way to force reports into the overwatch system? https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4r6hym/people_have_found_a_way_to_force_cheaters_into/
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Bohemian Nights posted:In other news, someone has apparently found a way to force reports into the overwatch system? And it's gone! Faster than kids betting skins on csgoskins.com
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Katamari Democracy posted:And it's gone! Faster than kids betting skins on csgoskins.com valve will never voluntarily kill betting because they know that the inflated prices for items on the steam market exists of the artificial demand it creates. look at how ft asiimovs were a stable $60 forever until gtav came out, and then the flood of them coming onto the market crashed the price and it never recovered because they were never worth that price nor the $20ish price they are now. they are worth nothing, not because valve says that in their tos, its because they are literally loving texture files on your harddrive but the sheer volume of transactions on the steam market means that its super profitable for them, and the us government won't punish them nearly hard enough. it's like that scene from fight club where the motor companies find recalling faulty cars unprofitable, even if it is the moral path
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Bohemian Nights posted:In other news, someone has apparently found a way to force reports into the overwatch system? Why do people it's safe to cheat once per 24h? Is there any data to support this?
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PerOlus posted:Why do people it's safe to cheat once per 24h? Is there any data to support this? None other than it being a repeated claim on various hacking forums and kind of backed up by the fact that people can spinbot without a shadow of a doubt in a game, be reported by 5 players, and never end up OW'd.
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Jul 4, 2016 15:00
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I think I should try and sell my most expensive skins before opskins gets blasted by the ftc
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exethan posted:I think I should try and sell my most expensive skins before opskins gets blasted by the ftc I'm curious, what is OPSkins doing that'll get them blasted? If you assume they are paying taxes aren't they just an auction house for in game items?
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They're affiliated with a lot of the gambling sites and streamers so I wouldn't be surprised to see them listed as complicit if this gets federal attention and investigated by actual law enforcement
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Hahahahahahahaha Jesus Christ http://www.pcgamer.com/csgo-lotto-i...=buffer_pcgamer http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/07/04/popular-youtubers-implicated-in-counter-strike-betting-scandal?abthid=577a812219c442027b000006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC1tH7f441c&feature=youtu.be&t=413
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It would really be insanely funny if the whole skin business got shut down by the US Gov't. At the same time I'd feel bad for all those 16 year old skin millionaires. It's certainly possible that sites like CSGO Lotto could be banned, but I imagine sites like CS:GO Lounge could survive, not only because it is more a betting site, but also because it is owned in Poland (iirc) and it will be nigh on impossible to prevent people circumventing a site ban using proxies.
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 yeah brother that will keep you out of trouble
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Depths posted:
Judge: "Mr. Martin, you may now present your defense." TmarTn: "lol oops #sorrynotsorry"
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Jeza posted:It would really be insanely funny if the whole skin business got shut down by the US Gov't. At the same time I'd feel bad for all those 16 year old skin millionaires. It's certainly possible that sites like CSGO Lotto could be banned, but I imagine sites like CS:GO Lounge could survive, not only because it is more a betting site, but also because it is owned in Poland (iirc) and it will be nigh on impossible to prevent people circumventing a site ban using proxies. Honestly valve's whole business strategy since TF2 needs to be banned, it's making a generation of addicts.
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Very interesting post on reddit that FaZe are the owners of CS:GO Wild, and have won a whole lot on stream on the site. http://dramaalert.com/forum/threads/faze-clan-owns-csgo-wild.1209/?ckattempt=1 CS:GO Wild is a registered business in Antigua, and two co-owners of FaZe posted about their trip to Antigua only a few months ago: https://twitter.com/fazeapex/status/697859045651140608 https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4r77x5/sirscoots_on_twitter_heard_a_rumor_that/d4yte9a 
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So steam nuked his site. Good. I wonder if the guy was proper scamming people. Apart from the game is rigged against you basic scam that is gambling. Like when that moe clown knew the rolls beforehand he was just playing against the site so the issue people had other than promoting gambling to stupid tweeners was just that he was giving people a very misleading notion about the probability of winning. In the latest scandal it looks like he's straight up taking money off strangers because he/they could know the outcome. Unless he owns the accounts he's betting against which is possible.
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slavatuvs posted:how did these sites even make money? house takes a cut.
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slavatuvs posted:how did these sites even make money?
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I've also wondered that. It's pretty clear how OPSkins and the likes make money, but are these betting sites and CSGOLounge really valued off of how many skins they own on a bot? It has real value, but that is probably the worst way to be rich.
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They're probably pretty religious about turning their cut into real money. No one wants 40000 p90 asimovs
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Photex posted:house takes a cut. and then what? selling them immediately on the market?
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Hello mr bank manager i'd like to take out a loan? Security you say? why yes here is by pristine ep1cn00bkiller skin for an asset on a video game
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Goofballs posted:They're probably pretty religious about turning their cut into real money. No one wants 40000 p90 asimovs This is what I don't get. You'd have to exchange items to keys and then undersell the keys. It all seems like a bad way of getting anything besides money that is tied to a bot's steam account.
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slavatuvs posted:This is what I don't get. You'd have to exchange items to keys and then undersell the keys. It all seems like a bad way of getting anything besides money that is tied to a bot's steam account. you don't have to exchange items to keys, i'd imagine the large cuts end up on OPSkins.
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Sir Scoots is on a goddamned crusade https://twitter.com/SirScoots
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I don't think anyone knows how this will shake out yet. I assume valve has to comment at some point, so I'm looking forwards to some handwaving about how skins don't have any actual value
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It'll be pretty hilarious if the government has to step in to deal with this. These sites are making a lot of money from allowing children to gamble and it's really only been a matter of time until this boils over. I do wonder what'll happen to the price of skins if all of these gambling sites get shut down
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I have a green famas worth 2 cents, should I liquidate my CS equities before the market goes bust?
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It's pretty sweet though, I'd hate to part with it.
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