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thespaceinvader posted:The hell is this in response to?
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sorry that was really really mean 
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LemonDrizzle posted:For what it's worth, that's a fund that invests in commercial property, not residential property - its investors want to sell because they're anticipating a recession that will reduce demand for things like office space, not housing. Won't that indirectly reduce demand for housing? Less offices = Less people in the capital with jobs = less demand for residential property ?
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Chairman Gove announced a 'Back to the Land' movement where unemployed and intellectuals are sent out of the cities and into the fields of East Anglia to toil on Workfare and get the British Spirit.
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qhat posted:Won't that indirectly reduce demand for housing? Less offices = Less people in the capital with jobs = less demand for residential property ? correlation vs causation etc, but yes 
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OldMemes posted:You can just blame everything on Blairites. Except it is literally the Blairites fault. I know how weird this is for a politician, but Corbyn is busy doing his actual job instead of taking part in a pissing contest for imaginary faults. He's defending his leadership by actually being a leader and trying to help the people he represents instead of joining the backstabathon scramble for political power at the expense of the rest of the country. To make him defend himself first one of their accusations has to be actually true, otherwise he quite reasonably won't bother. The worst thing you can do when arguing with the right is get drawn into their pace, that leads straight to semantics hell and they will never be satisfied with anything anyone says and will blur the issues until it's all just a meaningless poo poo-flinging contest. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Jul 4, 2016 18:53
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At any rate, regardless what causes what, I reckon a lot of property investors are understandably spooked. I wouldn't be surprised if prime property utterly collapsed in the next few months, but that's just speculation from me.
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PLP meeting this afternoon: https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/750020668608110593 They really do think it belongs to them and them alone.
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Jul 4, 2016 18:55
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will a crash in house prices cause brexiteers to reconsider their position, them largely being old and all not that it will do anything i just want them to be fully aware of the ride to hell theyve voted to strap themselves and everyone else in to
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Jul 4, 2016 18:56
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Apraxin posted:PLP meeting this afternoon: If someone on the Corbynite wing of the party had aped a Farage slogan, it would have received a full page article in The Guardian about how insensitive and awful it was.
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Apraxin posted:PLP meeting this afternoon: Yes, they do. They will learn.
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Apraxin posted:PLP meeting this afternoon: Then they should vote to Leave  Roll on SDP2: SPLIT HARDER
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XMNN posted:will a crash in house prices cause brexiteers to reconsider their position, them largely being old and all Thought I'd check my local area on rightmove, usually there is literally nothing under £300k except poo poo over-60s properties, but there's like 7 properties now all added in the past 2 weeks lol.
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Jul 4, 2016 19:01
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Well so do the 600 or so thousand members of the party. And there's a lot more of us than you, MP's.
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Apraxin posted:PLP meeting this afternoon: They're not declaring ownership, they want to see the Labour party returned to what it was.
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Pissflaps posted:They're not declaring ownership, they want to see the Labour party returned to what it was. They aren't the only ones.
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Pissflaps posted:They're not declaring ownership, they want to see the Labour party returned to what it was. Which specific point in Labour Party history are you referring to when you say "what it was"?
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Pissflaps posted:I believe their job is to represent their constituents. An MP's job is to represent their constituents - a Labour MP's job is to work with the party, represent its members, to form a unified Opposition and push the party's agenda forward. A shadow cabinet member's job is specifically to work with the leader who appointed them, handling policy and presenting and arguing it against the government None of these things involve MPs doing what they want because they hate losing and hate who their membership elected, or throwing their toys out of the pram by constantly damaging the party and giving it bad press to suit their own personal aims. But they do it because they feel like lords of their own little manor, safe in their position and power. If they were under threat of deselection by the membership for their actions, they sure as hell wouldn't be loving around like they are
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Jul 4, 2016 19:07
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Pissflaps posted:They're not declaring ownership, they want to see the Labour party returned to what it was. Socialist? Bring it the gently caress on.
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I thought May was way ahead in the race. This isn't good. Everything I've heard about Leadsom is that she's to the right of Hitler.
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UnquietDream posted:Which specific point in Labour Party history are you referring to when you say "what it was"?
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UnquietDream posted:Which specific point in Labour Party history are you referring to when you say "what it was"? I'm guessing a point when it was a party that appeared capable of forming a government.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:2nd of May 1997, round about lunchtime. Shortly before a general election when a populist Labour leader was appointed and won a landslide majority? ... Wait.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Then they should vote to Leave There's a piece in the indy today saying exactly this: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-crisis-how-to-start-new-party-in-10-steps-a7116931.html
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OwlFancier posted:They aren't the only ones. Did you vote Labour at the last election?
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Pissflaps posted:I'm guessing a point when it was a party that appeared capable of forming a government. Guess what would have happened if they'd all done the jobs to which they were appointed instead of conniving the resign at the worst possible moment for the country. Fakedit: engaging with Pissflaps *slaps own wrist*
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Pissflaps posted:Did you vote Labour at the last election? Green in the GE because I live in a safe Labour seat and wanted them to keep their deposit, don't really see the point in throwing my vote away. Would vote for them in a system where it actually mattered though. Unless you mean the last election full stop in which case yes I voted labour.
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https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/750026074935943168 These are gold. Also on that standard life thing. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmiTX-4WIAEFr1F.jpg:large Nothing changes. Except it did this time.
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Pissflaps posted:I'm guessing a point when it was a party that appeared capable of forming a government. What would be the key policies of this hypothetical Labour government?
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OwlFancier posted:Green because I live in a safe Labour seat and wanted them to keep their deposit, don't really see the point in throwing my vote away. Would vote for them in a system where it actually mattered though. Green voter says 'I want my Labour party back'. I thought you lived in the Redcar constituency? That was LibDem in 2010.
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Pissflaps posted:I'm guessing a point when it was a party that appeared capable of forming a government. Hahaha, what the gently caress is wrong with you and how do you have the patience for this? It's kind of impressive really.
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Jul 4, 2016 19:15
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Remove jeremy corbyn and replace him with @dril
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Regarde Aduck posted:I thought May was way ahead in the race. This isn't good. Everything I've heard about Leadsom is that she's to the right of Hitler. While Hitler was an epic bastard he only had a passing interest in the occult and not a close servant of the Dark Lord. If Leadsom gets in the world is completely hosed.
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qhat posted:Remove jeremy corbyn and replace him with @dril Stop stealing my ideas. "The labor paty was the greatst accomplishment of the 14 century and I will tend to take it back to it's roots of lynching tories"
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Pissflaps posted:I'm guessing a point when it was a party that appeared capable of forming a government. 1945? Sounds great, let's do it!
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Pissflaps posted:Green voter says 'I want my party back'. No, Middlesbrough South. Tom's majority is narrower than Ashok's was but it's still a solid labour seat. I imagine I'll have to vote Labour in the next GE though if things continue. And I'm a member of the Labour party, not the green party. Milliband was not terribly impressive and MPs have to be made to listen, unfortunately.
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Pissflaps posted:I'm guessing a point when it was a party that appeared capable of forming a government. ah. 1974?
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