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EvilGenius posted:So what do you reckon is going to happen tomorrow to distract us from Chilcot on Wednesday? Nigel takes back his resignation, reinstating himself as the leader of UKIP, until he resigns again in the evening. Boris Johnson declares that he's going to run after all, prompting Gove to drop out from the race.
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Deteriorata posted:Rich resort area at the east end of Long Island, New York. A series of villages called Southampton, East Hampton, etc., collectively referred to as "The Hamptons" Dirty furrins stealin are names 
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EvilGenius posted:So what do you reckon is going to happen tomorrow to distract us from Chilcot on Wednesday? Nothing. The Media have been waiting for the day for a decade, so the only thing that could would be a massive terrorist attack or war.
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Jul 4, 2016 20:45
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boris just backed leadsom i have no doubt she'll win the activist's vote
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ukle posted:Nothing. The Media have been waiting for the day for a decade, so the only thing that could would be a massive terrorist attack or war. It's going to be interesting watching the contortions involved in getting CORBYN BAD and BLAIR BAD in while Corbyn is busy saying BLAIR BAD.
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EvilGenius posted:So what do you reckon is going to happen tomorrow to distract us from Chilcot on Wednesday?
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DesperateDan posted:Why indeed- if your point is more generally "the EU is pretty poo poo at things" then you aren't going to find many people here who will make anything of a strong case otherwise. Zephro fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Jul 4, 2016 20:51
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Here's Mark Blyth articulating the point I failed so miserably at this morning; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvZil0qWPg&t=439s
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Jul 4, 2016 20:54
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XMNN posted:will a crash in house prices cause brexiteers to reconsider their position, them largely being old and all
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Jul 4, 2016 21:05
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Metrication posted:boris just backed leadsom all is pain and suffering
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Jul 4, 2016 21:08
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jiggerypokery posted:Here's Mark Blyth articulating the point I failed so miserably at this morning; Ah so when you argued that free movement is bad because people who did not negotiate free movement don't have free movement, you actually meant that you're against the common currency and the negative effect of the euro on import-based economies that are not currency sovereign. Gotcha. 
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Jul 4, 2016 21:12
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OwlFancier posted:It's going to be interesting watching the contortions involved in getting CORBYN BAD and BLAIR BAD in while Corbyn is busy saying BLAIR BAD. If Corbyn were a Strong Leader he would have pointed out that BLAIR BAD years ago, TIBFJC he must resign. (Ignoring of course the fact that he did)
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Jul 4, 2016 21:19
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XMNN posted:no idea what the future looks like, no idea if you can or even want to live in this country in 2 years or 5 years or 10 years
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Jul 4, 2016 21:20
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:A copy of Mein Kampf is found in Jeremy Corbyn's local library. Many Labour front benchers resigned to bring us this information.
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Jul 4, 2016 21:22
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Anybody seen Gove's argument for him being PM? He's running on Miliband's 2015 platform. Edit: Actually all of them that aren't May are pretty much promising Miliband's 2015 promises that were mocked as dangerous socialism. We're hosed.
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Jul 4, 2016 21:22
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Milliband had a 2015 platform? I thought it was a menhir...
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Jul 4, 2016 21:23
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That'll be a kick in the balls for Ed if he wins.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Anybody seen Gove's argument for him being PM? He's running on Miliband's 2015 platform. 
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Jul 4, 2016 21:30
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anyone seen gove's argument? don't be silly, of course you havent.
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Jul 4, 2016 21:33
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Professor John Curtice at the University of Glasgow from the 28th of June talking about the results of the referendum, with a solid chunk on the demographics of the voters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SszC7NDfqjQ?t=15m edit: added start time to link Menator fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Jul 4, 2016 21:36
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jiggerypokery posted:Here's Mark Blyth articulating the point I failed so miserably at this morning; free movement of capital and free movement of labour are not the same thing
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Jul 4, 2016 21:37
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capital will be utterly worthless in thirty years so everyone stop crying about it
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Jul 4, 2016 21:38
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qhat posted:capital will be utterly worthless in thirty years so everyone stop crying about it i want to interview bolsheviks in 1918 about what they thought the world would be like in a hundred years
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Jul 4, 2016 21:40
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Aliquid posted:i want to interview bolsheviks in 1918 about what they thought the world would be like in a hundred years they'd probably say something like durrhh or nhgnnng or something like that
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Jul 4, 2016 21:41
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Zephro posted:Yeah, this. Britain has just hung a giant "foreigners gently caress off" sign on its front lawn. Between the outright attacks and abuse, leadership candidates for the job of prime loving minister taking about the country is "swamped" and the fact that you are personally blamed for pretty much everything that's wrong with this place, why would you want to stay? It's an incredibly hostile atmosphere. I am an immigrant (I was once told "you're the kind we want to encourage"), I live in a nice area and work with nice people. It's very disconcerting to hear all this poo poo about immigrants, as if I didn't already feel vaguely uneasy within 40 feet of a St. George's cross. I cannot imagine how poo poo it feels to be Polish in England at the moment.
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qhat posted:they'd probably say something like durrhh or nhgnnng or something like that where are my flying cars, comrade
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Spangly A posted:free movement of capital and free movement of labour are not the same thing Ok whatever, I'll bite. Remain was about protecting the interests of the super rich, Blyth presents a case as to why. Corbyn should have stuck to his guns and been a voice for leave from a leftist point of view. I later argued that being anti free movement of labour within the eu isn't necessarily a racist view to hold. Out of the EU we have the option for a more socially responsible immigration policy. But yeah, whatever, if you think that needs spelling out go for it.
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Aliquid posted:i want to interview bolsheviks in 1918 about what they thought the world would be like in a hundred years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gwyHNo7MI
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thespaceinvader posted:Milliband had a 2015 platform? I thought it was a menhir... The second pillar and capstone have been lost to history.
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Zephro posted:A crash in house prices is one of the few Brexit silver linings. Whether it will actually happen (the BoE has already pretty much said it'll cut interest rates below their current 400-year lows and print billions of extra poonds) is another issue but I'd love it if it did and it would be hugely to the benefit of most people under 40, who have been hosed in almost every other respect lately. good news for anyone stuck here though Zephro posted:Yeah, this. Britain has just hung a giant "foreigners gently caress off" sign on its front lawn. Between the outright attacks and abuse, leadership candidates for the job of prime loving minister taking about the country is "swamped" and the fact that you are personally blamed for pretty much everything that's wrong with this place, why would you want to stay? It's an incredibly hostile atmosphere.  the political atmosphere towards immigrants is so incredibly hostile now, their future is an afterthought and they are being sized up as hostages for the exit negotiations imagine how the brexiteers are going to feel in 10 years when all their children are working abroad because they torpedoed what was left of the british economy and foreigners talk about their kids the same way
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qhat posted:anyone seen gove's argument? don't be silly, of course you havent.
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Gimme-grants :iamafag:
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XMNN posted:imagine how the brexiteers are going to feel in 10 years when all their children are working abroad because they torpedoed what was left of the british economy and foreigners talk about their kids the same way i'm sure there'll be two or three immigrants left for them to still blame everything on can't even walk for ten solid hours in the middle of London without passing a small polish bakery operating out the back of someone's house, this country's gone to the dogs so it has
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Angepain posted:i'm sure there'll be two or three immigrants left for them to still blame everything on "Of course our kids can't work here! Petyr and his chums have taken all 3 of the jobs in this country! SEND THEM BACK" winegums fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Milliband had a 2015 platform? I thought it was a menhir... My favourite thing about those loving stupid rocks is that originally it was an idea for Indy ref that was knocked back because "They'll be called grave stones". Someone brought this idea back for the 2015 GE. This was somebody's giant mechanical spider.
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OwlFancier posted:It's going to be interesting watching the contortions involved in getting CORBYN BAD and BLAIR BAD in while Corbyn is busy saying BLAIR BAD. Pretty obvious how this will go. Corbyn will make a speech decrying Blair and it will be ignored in favour of stories from the PLP about how corbyn shouldn't be so divisive at such a tough time.
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thespaceinvader posted:Milliband had a 2015 platform? I thought it was a menhir... We've been using menhirs for centuries, and we still don't know what they're for. Also hi, Remain voter here, very angry and unsure of the future but I'm pretty eager to watch it burn.
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Apraxin posted:Also at the PLP meeting, Kinnock senior apparently indirectly accused Corbyn of being an anarcho-syndicalist (??????): Oh poor Lord Kinnock. Words have meanings you fud, and Corbyn is as much an anarcho-anything as he is a Marxist-Leninist for fucksake. The idea that 30+ year MP Jeremy Corbyn, doesn't support parliamentary socialism, who has been involved in exactly 0 armed uprisings against parliament in all his years on this planet beggars belief. I get they don't like that he won't step down but for fucksake, this is fantasy poo poo. We should be so lucky to have an anarchist taking centre stage of British politics.
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The Deleter posted:We've been using menhirs for centuries, and we still don't know what they're for. Pretty sure they're 4. controls on immigration
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yeah well i know that this person has voted consistently against any form of gay equal rights or any equal rights in general, against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who are long term unemployed, voted for raising tuition fees to 9k and also for ending all financial support for 16-19 yo in training, is a climate change skeptic, is against any limits of fees charged by letting agents and, surprisingly, is against euthanasia for the homeless. overall tho i rekcon she'd b e a good leader IMO.
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