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Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Eonwe posted:

some games are an exception, I believe gta vice city does french

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is run in French as well, although I don't think they ran it in French when it was at AGDQ (or was it SGDQ2015?). Don't they require at least one of the players to be playing in English for races? It feels like it but maybe I'm just making that up

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LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

MisterBibs posted:

Is there a speed reason why a bunch of these games are in their native Japanese? Because if I can't read the text, I'm lost about whats going on and its less of a "hey, I should play this" situation.

e: echoing this run being boring. I fell asleep for a good hour or so.
On top of the text thing a lot of games before the PS2/XBox/GCN era were produced and released in Japan months ahead of everyone else and tend to have the most bugs because of that. They'd fix some things while translating and producing the game elsewhere in the 6 months between those releases.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

SectumSempra posted:

The list of games this year looked lovely.

I caught ed edd and eddy and was pleasantly surprised. Anything else interesting so far?

Luckily I missed the megaman stuff.

I thought Hagane and Skyblazer were both great runs, interesting games and new (to me at least)

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

lazorexplosion posted:

I thought Hagane and Skyblazer were both great runs, interesting games and new (to me at least)

Skyblazer's legit one of my favourite games of the SNES era. Really easy though, the game showers you with extra lives, but such a great game.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Pakled posted:

The Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze race was really good. The commentary was top-notch and the competitors were close the whole way through and there was a lot of trading of the lead.

Probably was my overall favorite run so far.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Pakled posted:

What Your Computer said, and because a lot of games have exploitable glitches in the Japanese version that got patched out for international releases.

Your Computer posted:

Not to mention that the japanese version is generally the first 1.0 version of a lot of games, aka. the least patched version. A lot of insane bugs get fixed during the time it takes for the games to get an english release.

LethalGeek posted:

On top of the text thing a lot of games before the PS2/XBox/GCN era were produced and released in Japan months ahead of everyone else and tend to have the most bugs because of that. They'd fix some things while translating and producing the game elsewhere in the 6 months between those releases.

Man, this is disappointing to hear. I've got no problems with runners using glitches to speedrun in principle, but knowing that they are using janky earlier versions because they have the least patches is kinda lovely. It's like "speedrunning" Morrowind under the basis of using the Robe of St Roris's before its health-restoration effect was constantly on in the first version.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

drunken officeparty posted:

Yeah but Paper Mario

i mean come on man



Dunno, feel like this needs some stickers.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

MisterBibs posted:

Man, this is disappointing to hear. I've got no problems with runners using glitches to speedrun in principle, but knowing that they are using janky earlier versions because they have the least patches is kinda lovely. It's like "speedrunning" Morrowind under the basis of using the Robe of St Roris's before its health-restoration effect was constantly on in the first version.

The Fast Racing Neo run specifically mentioned that. The game was patched a couple of months ago, and since it's an eshop game, it downloads the latest version automatically. So if you want to do any of the ludicrous breaks he did in his run, you can't, unless you have the 1.0 version.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




well last night during the Racing Neo-X or whatever the runner specifically stated towards the end that he is making this game look super broken but you can't play the game that way anymore because it has been patched so much that it plays completely differently

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

drunken officeparty posted:

I was mocked in the thread during the winter GDQ for only talking about paper mario

but it was all worth it

id do anything for paper mario

I loved the Paper Mario run at AGDQ but unfortunately the thread didn't seem to agree.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

Pakled posted:

I loved the Paper Mario run at AGDQ but unfortunately the thread didn't seem to agree.

I always love Paper Mario.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Internet Kraken posted:

Dunno, feel like this needs some stickers.

TTYD was good but don't even speak to me about anything after that. they bring dishonor to the name of the greatest video game ever made

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

With as little couch talking as is going on, I am surprised they arent discussing mroe donations. I also cant believe there is still almost 30 minutes of this

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

MisterBibs posted:

Man, this is disappointing to hear. I've got no problems with runners using glitches to speedrun in principle, but knowing that they are using janky earlier versions because they have the least patches is kinda lovely. It's like "speedrunning" Morrowind under the basis of using the Robe of St Roris's before its health-restoration effect was constantly on in the first version.

the goal is to go fast

Thing about this, right, is that speedrunning is just not big enough to sustain a game's community being split across multiple patch versions (usually) and the object of speedrunning is to go quickly so it usually just makes sense to standardize to one version of the game. Because SPEEDrunning, this ends up being the fastest version more often than not.

also glitches are fun how can one hate on that

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

KKKLIP ART posted:

With as little couch talking as is going on, I am surprised they arent discussing mroe donations. I also cant believe there is still almost 30 minutes of this
germany's obv not donating very much right now

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

wouldnt it be great if the run ended with him softlocking the system?

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

"mind if i read some donations?"

"no its more important that we mutter back and forth"

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

the goal is to go fast

Thing about this, right, is that speedrunning is just not big enough to sustain a game's community being split across multiple patch versions (usually) and the object of speedrunning is to go quickly so it usually just makes sense to standardize to one version of the game. Because SPEEDrunning, this ends up being the fastest version more often than not.

also glitches are fun how can one hate on that

its not big enough to sustain that but big enough that people out there dedicate many hours of their lives to an ed edd and eddy game from 2004

speedruns are weird

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

drunken officeparty posted:

its not big enough to sustain that but big enough that people out there dedicate many hours of their lives to an ed edd and eddy game from 2004

speedruns are weird

It's like the fantranslation scene back in the 90s and early '00s: if you're not going to be the guy who translates Final Fantasy V, you may as well be the guy who translates a ton of loving weird niche games on the Famicom into Latin, because how else are people gonna know who you are?

Speedrunning works much the same way.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

WAAAHHH!! AHHHHH!!!

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

drunken officeparty posted:

its not big enough to sustain that but big enough that people out there dedicate many hours of their lives to an ed edd and eddy game from 2004

speedruns are weird

Well, as a person with 14 speedrunning World Records*...



*in extremely obscure games less than 100 people know about

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Glad I never bothered to play this.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

im thinking of creating my own video game then speedrunning it so i can up my world record count

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Your Computer posted:

Well, as a person with 14 speedrunning World Records*...



*in extremely obscure games less than 100 people know about

I'm the world record holder for Skreer-Bump, a game whose rules only I know.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

I'd ruin you all at Mornington Crescent. Rush's 2112 ruleset in effect, obviously.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
The upcoming Bioshock run reminds me I should've checked if the Rapture-based DLC for Bioshock Infinite was on sale during the now-ended Steam sale. Oops.

e: I don't get how people don't get immediately embarassed calling themselves by their online screenames. "Hi I'm YoloArthas420 ecks ecks ecks"...

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

poo poo, I want that Ultros toy.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
I only speedrun games of chance. I'm currently routing my Yahtzee world record pace run.


Which reminds me, I can't see Binding of Isaac on the list this event which is very good news.

Akett
Aug 6, 2012

Man, I loved FSA as a teen, but man those final bosses are a pain in the rear end playing casually.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Bioshock is an apt game to play decked out in American exceptionalism

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
god bless america

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Should be Bioshock Infinite :colbert:

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Your Computer posted:

I only speedrun games of chance. I'm currently routing my Yahtzee world record pace run.


Which reminds me, I can't see Binding of Isaac on the list this event which is very good news.

Have they done Binding of Isaac before? I can't imagine how you could speedrun it in a way that's satisfying considering how random it is

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Sir Tonk posted:

Should be Bioshock Infinite :colbert:

This isn't the Awful Games block.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc


:patriot:

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Internet Kraken posted:

This isn't the Awful Games block.

:eyepop:

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

drunken officeparty posted:

its not big enough to sustain that but big enough that people out there dedicate many hours of their lives to an ed edd and eddy game from 2004

speedruns are weird

I actually have a run of that game on that leaderboard. It's like, maybe a small handful of people who really put the work into it. I'm not really one of them.

Point is, speedgame communities should all be considered individually, and most individual games don't have very many people to them.

Merv Burger
Jan 3, 2008

Macaluso posted:

Have they done Binding of Isaac before? I can't imagine how you could speedrun it in a way that's satisfying considering how random it is

they have before, and it went as poorly as you would think it would

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Binding Of Isaac failed spectacularly on multiple occasions, I'm pretty sure.

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Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Macaluso posted:

Have they done Binding of Isaac before? I can't imagine how you could speedrun it in a way that's satisfying considering how random it is

Twice, once with a random run with a seeded run as a bonus, once as a two-player race that went in one player's favour almost immediately and never left. The seeded run was actually kinda fun. Seeing the OP combos you can get in Isaac is always a hoot.

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