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namesake posted:Got to admit that's dangerously close to saying we should listen to experts on things they're expert in. Yeah, it has to be taken with a pinch of salt really. If an 'expert' assures me that Kim Jong-Un has a nuclear penis that can hit England within 30 minutes, I'll probably grimace and consider resigning. Caroline Lucas asked the government to provide an official apology and pigfucker refuses lmao.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I'm not the one falsely accusing someone of being a war criminal.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Unless you're in favour of retroactive justice, which is a stupid idea, "We've done nothing illegal" is a real defense. Even if he can't be held to legal account he can be held to account in that people can say he is evil and valued pumping up his ego and the thrill at being able to execute violence against humanity to demonstrate his power more than he valued hundreds of thousands of human lives. The law isn't the same thing as morality. Couldn't you just substitute 'war criminal' for 'monster' in your head?
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I'm not the one falsely accusing someone of being a war criminal.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I'm not the one falsely accusing someone of being a war criminal. Stunning non-sequitur, bravo.
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big scary monsters posted:I thought special forces were in fact on the ground in Libya and some were even killed. It's an open secret we have special forces on the ground all over the place. If/Where we point the drones and whether they have hit their targets isn't guesswork.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I'm not the one falsely accusing someone of being a war criminal. Hmm this is a contentious view that even I think is dumb, my friend.
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Some of them are just goons pretending to be special forces.
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Ugh, the house is now just patting itself on the back over how Saddam Hussein was bad.
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If Blair does a warcrime in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
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Renaissance Robot posted:If Blair does a warcrime in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Yeah it sounds a lot like a pig corpse being hosed.
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jiggerypokery posted:It's an open secret we have special forces on the ground all over the place. If/Where we point the drones and whether they have hit their targets isn't guesswork. Could have fooled me. (thanks whoever posted that piece on the history of British counterintelligence last thread, it was great) Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Is Corbin supposed to be a biting and clever nickname? Because it just reminds me of Obummer.
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big scary monsters posted:I thought special forces were in fact on the ground in Libya and some were even killed. Special forces? What special forces? http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/britain-is-at-war-in-libya-and-nobody-thought-to-tell-us-a7052356.html
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Not Operator posted:Is Corbin supposed to be a biting and clever nickname? Because it just reminds me of Obummer. GET IN THE BIN (I think is what they're going for)
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Renaissance Robot posted:GET IN THE BIN (I think is what they're going for) No, I get it. I just think its incredibly childish.
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I thought it was a reference to WWE wrestler Baron Corbin because he's a loner and a drifter with a score to settle and is out to prove himself
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Not Operator posted:No, I get it. I just think its incredibly childish. Welcome to UK politics
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Wildstrike posted:Even if he can't be held to legal account he can be held to account in that people can say he is evil and valued pumping up his ego and the thrill at being able to execute violence against humanity to demonstrate his power more than he valued hundreds of thousands of human lives. He's a moron and grossly incompetent in his execution of the war. The report so far as I've read (and obviously this could change) doesn't go far enough to say that he harboured ill intent or did what he felt wasn't in the best interests of the nation. Until that is provably so I can't, much as I want to, judge him morally in that manner. I just really dislike throwing around the term War Criminal at people who haven't been indicted because it trivialises the term. Apologies for the misunderstanding.
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graun posted:Adapting one of Tony Blair’s most famous comments, the SDLP MP Mark Durkan said that this was not a day for soundbites, but today was a day when “the hand of history should be feeling someone’s collar”. Cameron laughed, and said MPs had to take responsibility for their actions. 
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Either way, it reminds me of 'Obummer', and that's not a positive thing.
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Actually I think you'll find that British colonists never committed genocide, because genocide wasn't defined within international law at the time. 
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brian posted:I thought it was a reference to WWE wrestler Baron Corbin because he's a loner and a drifter with a score to settle and is out to prove himself I enjoy the moments when Baron is brought up in this topic and I briefly become vaguely relevant
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Yorkshire Tea posted:He's a moron and grossly incompetent in his execution of the war. The report so far as I've read (and obviously this could change) doesn't go far enough to say that he harboured ill intent or did what he felt wasn't in the best interests of the nation. Until that is provably so I can't, much as I want to, judge him morally in that manner. I just really dislike throwing around the term War Criminal at people who haven't been indicted because it trivialises the term.
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Well intentioned war crimes
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Not Operator posted:No, I get it. I just think its incredibly childish. Agreed. Jherembe is better.
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Baron Corbyn posted:I enjoy the moments when Baron is brought up in this topic and I briefly become vaguely relevant To be fair I hear he's going to bring the end of days so at that point you're going to be more relevant than ever
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Not Operator posted:No, I get it. I just think its incredibly childish. Lmao have you ever read these threads before?
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Pissflaps posted:Agreed. What was the explanation beyond this one again. I think it was a reference to the gorilla but I don't get the connection.
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Baron Corbyn posted:What was the explanation beyond this one again. I think it was a reference to the gorilla but I don't get the connection. Neither knew when to let go.
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R. Mute posted:Accidental War Criminal Iraq slipped and fell on my shock & awe campaign
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During an official visit to Hong Kong and China the trade and investment minister has said the UK will be opening up new trading markets like the Elizabethans didUK trade and investment minister Mark Price posted:A fresh start gives a unique opportunity to shape a bright future for the UK as a global trading nation and open economy.
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Baron Corbyn posted:What was the explanation beyond this one again. I think it was a reference to the gorilla but I don't get the connection. Unfairly put under a gun.
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Man Tony sounds rough today. That's only the smallest little tiny bit of what he deserves after the Iraq War. But still.
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Tesseraction posted:Unfairly put under a gun. Wait, wait. Unfairly?
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dispatch_async posted:During an official visit to Hong Kong and China the trade and investment minister has said the UK will be opening up new trading markets like the Elizabethans did Not sure being at odds with half of Europe counts as peace but I agree that we're headed that way.
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 i'm back after being trolled into loving oblivion by TIC, what's u- oh drat. I have just shown up to the wildest party. Even if it's just stern words, the very notion of any kind of accountability is terrifying the right and bringing me untold joy.
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Tony Blair posted:He says for more than 20 years the regime of Saddam Hussein had been a source of conflict and bloodshed. about that tony....
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