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Rorus Raz posted:I'm pretty sure they sponsor it and all the normal stuff they would get a cut of goes directly to charity. It's good advertising and they probably get a lot of subscriptions for it. Twitch bits are stupid. Notch is also stupid. Therefore, Twitch bits = Notch. The man simply hates himself.
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Rorus Raz posted:I honestly cannot parse Notch's grievance besides this stupid tribal thing where gamers pretend to be akin to a racial minority. Twitch is a lovely company and he doesn't want to give them money. That's a fair position. It's the declaring that he refuses to support a charity marathon that's only tangentially related to Twitch that's weird.
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UraniumAnchor posted:Iceless is Caleb. I'm not sure why he's listed that way. Name change maybe? Rebranding would be my guess
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TheMadMilkman posted:Twitch bits are stupid.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:02
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DKC race was fun, the kid on the couch has been there a few times and I love how excited and inclusive he tries to be
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Rorus Raz posted:I mean, Twitch does do stupid things like the bits, but this seems to be loving a charity because they decided to air Bob Ross marathons. Ya, and it makes him look really, really petty.
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Brother Entropy posted:wait is this really solely because twitch started meeting what people wanted by allowing non-video game streams I think his grievance is over Twitch's new "cheers" system which allows viewers to "tip" streamers with points exchangeable for real money. A lot of gamers are upset over this because it's similar the payment model used by porn camsites I think?
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TheMadMilkman posted:Ya, and it makes him look really, really petty. It's nice to see a developer who embodies gaming culture like that.
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Pakled posted:I think his grievance is over Twitch's new "cheers" system which allows viewers to "tip" streamers with points exchangeable for real money. This is sort of hilarious because almost every big streamer already has a tip jar, and will prominently display the highest tip in their current session, and allow people to send in messages with tips that're then read with text-to-speech. They've been doing this for quite some time - this is simply Twitch legitimizing the process, which was separate from subscription money as far as I understand?
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Pakled posted:I think his grievance is over Twitch's new "cheers" system which allows viewers to "tip" streamers with points exchangeable for real money. Yeah, there was a reddit ama somewhere from a camgirl and she said that the big sites have what is essentially an in-site currency that is used and you cant solicit for paypal or some other payment platform, so to get around it they do skype shows and poo poo or post an Amazon wishlist so you can just get poo poo you were going to buy with your cam-money anyway. Its kinda strange and it is paying for sex through layers of bullshit. I don't know if twitch bans a separate donate button via paypal or whatever, but there you go.
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Pakled posted:I think his grievance is over Twitch's new "cheers" system which allows viewers to "tip" streamers with points exchangeable for real money. more unobtrusive ways for streamers to make money sounds like a good thing to me, what am i missing
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Jul 6, 2016 23:09
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That Bob Ross marathon was the best thing they ever did.
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Majuju posted:This is sort of hilarious because almost every big streamer already has a tip jar, and will prominently display the highest tip in their current session, and allow people to send in messages with tips that're then read with text-to-speech. They've been doing this for quite some time - this is simply Twitch legitimizing the process, which was separate from subscription money as far as I understand? Twitch is taking a higher percentage than the alternative systems were. As long as linking to your PayPal donation page isn't banned, I have no issue with Twitch instituting the new system. And Twitch isn't dumb; they know how much money people will throw out just to see something happen in chat.
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KKKLIP ART posted:Yeah, there was a reddit ama somewhere from a camgirl and she said that the big sites have what is essentially an in-site currency that is used and you cant solicit for paypal or some other payment platform, so to get around it they do skype shows and poo poo or post an Amazon wishlist so you can just get poo poo you were going to buy with your cam-money anyway. Its kinda strange and it is paying for sex through layers of bullshit. I don't know if twitch bans a separate donate button via paypal or whatever, but there you go.
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They're ruining the purity of honest computer game streaming.
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Yeah, I can understand not wanting to give money to Twitch for whatever reason and even not wanting to donate to the GDQ but saying that in Twitter just makes you look so loving petty
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Incoherence posted:As mentioned earlier, there definitely aren't (enforced) rules against this because most streamers have a button for you to donate directly to them (and twitchalerts integration on their stream so you can post your dankest meme in the comment box when you give them $4.20 and it shows up on stream and/or the streamer will read it). Yeah I don't follow game streaming except the GDQ marathons, so I can't speak to the Twitch donation thing, I just happened to know the answer to this one. Sounds like they do take a bigger cut, but maybe it is a lot easier to setup. Hopefully they don't ban Paypal and other exchanges for folks that want to use that.
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what I wish they'd ban is all the tickers and donation alerts and other dumb bullshit its just encouraging stupid kids to waste their money on their favorite streamer so they can be acknowledged just in general, being able to donate directly to a streamer is the dumbest poo poo anyway and just encourages the shittiest most useless people to try to make it big as a streamer
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Jul 6, 2016 23:14
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he said a naughty paddle him
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Jul 6, 2016 23:15
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goatface posted:They're ruining the purity of honest computer game streaming. its about ethics in video game streaming donations
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Eonwe posted:what I wish they'd ban is all the tickers and donation alerts and other dumb bullshit
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davidHalestorm posted:Yeah, I can understand not wanting to give money to Twitch for whatever reason and even not wanting to donate to the GDQ but saying that in Twitter just makes you look so loving petty To be fair, Notch, until how, has always donated a large sum of money during GDQs and the readers always make a big deal about his donations so people were probably asking him about it and he'd probably have to say something. Not that this doesn't make him a blowhard for the way he said it and his reasons for not donating. KKKLIP ART posted:Yeah I don't follow game streaming except the GDQ marathons, so I can't speak to the Twitch donation thing, I just happened to know the answer to this one. Sounds like they do take a bigger cut, but maybe it is a lot easier to setup. Hopefully they don't ban Paypal and other exchanges for folks that want to use that. I don't think they're banning tipping through alternate sources, at least, they say in their cheering faq that "third-party services and tools" are still allowed.
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My little sister had this game. It's not bad for an NES title based on a Disney movie. More than anything, it's just way too short.
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Making Gaming Great Again
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Rorus Raz posted:Agreed except donating is fine when not done for the reasons you mentioned. I don't think being able to give directly to a person is a bad thing, but i also don't need little gifs and noises going off every time someone gives the guy a buck. yea, thats fair I think people that do that are scummy and preying on people that just want some acceptance, especially younger kids. What I really hate are the people who have that donation popup when your combined max donation for the night becomes the highest donation calebhart just sits there and plays the first level of megaman over and over talking about how much he loves his community as a bunch of 12 year olds keep out donating each other
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Social Media posted:Making Gaming Great Again
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Twitch Bits are apparently $1.40 for 100, and 1 bit = 1 cent for a streamer. PayPal margin is supposedly 2.2% + 30 cents so it's probably...close? assuming Twitch isn't also taking a cut on the back-end, so it's really just Amazon trying to get in directly on action that's already happening. Y'know, like allowing operators to charge people to access private servers in the game you develop, or something.
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I don't think notch is calling the cheers thing porn - I think he is calling the Social eating thing porn.
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Oh god we're getting the Little Mermain singing. SHUT IT DOWN
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I'm ready for singing
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I am going to sing along even though I cannot sing well at all.
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Majuju posted:Twitch Bits are apparently $1.40 for 100, and 1 bit = 1 cent for a streamer. PayPal margin is supposedly 2.2% + 30 cents so it's probably...close? assuming Twitch isn't also taking a cut on the back-end, so it's really just Amazon trying to get in directly on action that's already happening. Y'know, like allowing operators to charge people to access private servers in the game you develop, or something. It would be interesting to know if there are any fees to cash out. Anyway, lets hear soem music
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Jul 6, 2016 23:24
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voltcatfish posted:time to mute Nah he actually sounds pretty ok!
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Eonwe posted:calebhart just sits there and plays the first level of megaman over and over talking about how much he loves his community as a bunch of 12 year olds keep out donating each other Don't forget about the closeted gay men from when he streamed shirtless.
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voltcatfish posted:time to mute  Also wow, notch keeps being the worst person ever? Is it like a cry for attention or what?
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