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Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
So apparently the Bengal said that the Bengal will be done in, he estimates, three months. And according to him all of the "underlying tech" has to be finished for the Bengal to be done. I'm not really sure what underlying tech he's talking about (I know nothing about game development), but that sounds remarkably optimistic.

I think what bugs me about this whole thing is how we see a ton of stuff on the aesthetics and nothing on the gameplay. Nobody has ever argued that Star Citizen isn't pretty. The problem is that a pretty game that sucks to play still sucks. Has CIG done anything to actually make sure things work inside that Bengal? What are the game mechanics associated with all of this? Do they even exist?

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AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Name a planet "Star Marine" etc

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So apparently the Bengal said that the Bengal will be done in, he estimates, three months. And according to him all of the "underlying tech" has to be finished for the Bengal to be done. I'm not really sure what underlying tech he's talking about (I know nothing about game development), but that sounds remarkably optimistic.

I think what bugs me about this whole thing is how we see a ton of stuff on the aesthetics and nothing on the gameplay. Nobody has ever argued that Star Citizen isn't pretty. The problem is that a pretty game that sucks to play still sucks. Has CIG done anything to actually make sure things work inside that Bengal? What are the game mechanics associated with all of this? Do they even exist?



I don't think Star Citizen is pretty on any level, the graphics are pretty basic, space itself looks absolutely shockingly poo poo and the art direction is the worse I've seen in a long time.

Seriously the shops look worse than those in GTA 4

peter gabriel fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jul 8, 2016

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

When did we decide that Toast's family is dead?

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

peter gabriel posted:

I don't think Star Citizen is pretty on any level, the graphics are pretty basic, space itself looks absolutely shockingly poo poo and the art direction is the worse I've seen in a long time.

I'm still a fan of some of the ships. The Bengal, for example, looked pretty impressive. The levels were less interesting and I don't see how any of it really competes with CoD:IW in terms of graphics, but I still give the ship guys kudos. Then again maybe I'm just nostalgic for a game that isn't even out yet.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

SirPhoebos posted:

When did we decide that Toast's family is dead?

Cockney rhyming slang - Brown Bread

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I'm still a fan of some of the ships. The Bengal, for example, looked pretty impressive. The levels were less interesting and I don't see how any of it really competes with CoD:IW in terms of graphics, but I still give the ship guys kudos. Then again maybe I'm just nostalgic for a game that isn't even out yet.

I like some of the materials surfaces like on the Freelancer, it looks really cool, but that's honestly about it for me - the rest is OK, but for what the game is supposed to be and supposed to represent it's poo poo.
Just imo of course

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Nobody has ever argued that Star Citizen isn't pretty.

:colbert: It's like the inside of a new 1980's shopping centre, sure some posed shots in space look good, or in arc corp from certain angles when the LOD clips in right, assuming there's no horrible UI in the way, or a bulkhead, or an airlock, or a vending machine, part of your helmet, or your 1ft thumb etc.

The luxury 10k nightclub looks ok and "ok" is generous, that should be the best place ever, the fish tanks look fine and I like the thing hanging from the ceiling, the seating isn't great considering you can't sit and you actually clip through the couch. Hangars are bland, though the asteroid one actually looks good for an industrial feel. All the space stations are really bad though for boring corridors. The gold horizon map looked better.

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

Daztek posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8

Look at the Uk office compared to the LA office

A comparison of coffee machines:


UK


LA

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Release the car dealership croberts, you've delayed this for too long and now it isn't funny anymore.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

boviscopophobic posted:

A comparison of coffee machines:


UK


LA

I think this would make a great video. Coffee machines, front doors, work spaces, etc.

Eldragon
Feb 22, 2003

If the LA office actually sold lattes using that machine, they would actually be making a product.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
New ship idea, probably?

FOOD SHIP TRUCK, with coffee shop.

It's like the news van but actually does something.

Can shoe-horn in the drink mixing game even.

$350

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Decrepus posted:

Imagine being so autistic that you can't understand Erin's expressions while he's on camera with Sandi. Holy poo poo lol

It looks like he's going to cry for most of the time, I just skipped around the video.

Also what happened to their new format? That was still 30+ minutes of mind numbing verbal bullshit

On the plus side I didn't see Blesnick once , unless I skipped over him

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
Nice of Ricky Gervais to make a new episode of The Office for us!

SomethingJones fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jul 8, 2016

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
Nice to see Gary Parpman is still in the game




edit: yeah, I think that's our Gary

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


SomethingJones posted:

Nice to see Gary Parpman is still in the game




edit: yeah, I think that's our Gary



that dudes entire day is spent opening and closing the mouth

TerraGoetia
Feb 21, 2011

A cup of spiders.
MoMA always does the majority of their posting when I'm not around. This makes me sad. They're actually starting to grow on me. Here are my points (if you ever read my posts at all):

1) My partner is vegetarian. I have no idea how to cook vegetarian food at all. Is there such a thing as a veggieburger that doesn't suck, and if so, how do I make one?

2) The Republic isn't a tragedy at all, and I'm not sure I understand you saying its your favorite. I suppose the greatest tragedy to come out of it is Plato's awful formalism being adopted by otherwise rational people. His theories on statecraft and the suppression of the arts are just awful to a modern thinker.

3) What are your opinions on Chris Roberts's hairpiece? I wear wigs myself, and could possibly loan him some. They would be much more feminine but would probably be the correct color for him. Would you ask him to PM me if he's interested?

4) Do you know why Peter Gabriel is so angry? I always thought he was such a nice person.

5) I grew up kinda poor, so I can't imagine what $4,000 of disposable income feels like. What's your standard of living like? Do you drive Porches and sell oil companies or something?

TerraGoetia fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jul 8, 2016

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Youtube comments posted:

u muggy little oval office just stop playing no one likes you this video does not show SC at all yes its got bugs but when it does work its amazing and it work a good 80% of the time you loving joke i play with no real problems every day wow you mug your hole life is ripping on a game because you are a jellos prick wow what a life you have lmao

:allears:

TerraGoetia
Feb 21, 2011

A cup of spiders.

We need a Jello Cat to represent your Hulk mode now.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

peter gabriel posted:

I don't think Star Citizen is pretty on any level, the graphics are pretty basic, space itself looks absolutely shockingly poo poo and the art direction is the worse I've seen in a long time.

Seriously the shops look worse than those in GTA 4
You don't like the space dandruff?

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


TerraGoetia posted:

Is there such a thing as a veggieburger that doesn't suck
no

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

thatguy posted:

You don't like the space dandruff?

I hate everything, it's kind of my 'thing' grrrr and all that, you know?

Plural Abysss
Feb 25, 2016
Star Citizen: u muggy little oval office

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube


I like you.

Plural Abysss
Feb 25, 2016
oops sorry

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I think what bugs me about this whole thing is how we see a ton of stuff on the aesthetics and nothing on the gameplay.

This 100x

Seriously, the game was supposed to be out by now and even with all the "delays" squadron 42 is supposed to be out this year. Where are the detailed/narrated posts/videos showing core game systems?

They really are doing all the art first I guess.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

TerraGoetia posted:

1) My partner is vegetarian. I have no idea how to cook vegetarian food at all. Is there such a thing as a veggieburger that doesn't suck, and if so, how do I make one?

This is supposedly the closest yet:

http://www.techinsider.io/review-of-beyond-meat-veggie-burger-that-bleeds-2016-5

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

XK posted:

I like you.

:glomp:

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Again, something something Brexit commentary.

Either that or a 12 year old?

Both?

paarp.

stinch
Nov 21, 2013

Daztek posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8

Look at the Uk office compared to the LA office

Looks like they just have a bunch of production staff and some line leads inefficiently spread around several studios.

That's like having a manufacturing company that is literally just a factory with a few production lines. How could you expect that to produce a highly complex product whose production processes will need to be developed and refined during production? They are completely missing a whole bunch of specialised staff you need to do that. You can't just promote some of you production line staff to leads and expect that to work as an alternative to doing it properly.

Lobus
Jun 24, 2016

What happened here?
:parrot:

:henget:

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008
I haven't been in this thread in forever

Are you all doing the stimpire thing still or is that old news

also what happened to their ender's game minigame ripoff

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Lastdancer posted:

I haven't been in this thread in forever

Are you all doing the stimpire thing still or is that old news

also what happened to their ender's game minigame ripoff

The Stimpire will never get old - its relevance to Star Citizen triples every second.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Seriously though why isn't cargo in the game, make a volume that is "cargo" that can dynamically fill using small, medium, and large boxes depending on a widgets' size except the boxes aren't actual representative boxes (not fidelitious I know) and are just extrapolated from how much poo poo you have in your inventory. gently caress loading and unloading nonsense. Make 3 different models of generic crate and task a few guys to knock it out by the end of the month.

Why isn't mining in the game, have a flag on certain materials' properties like mineable, ore types, etc so if a procedural asteroid has a certain material property you can mine it to produce ore widgets which are just numbers in a database etc etc like it's been four loving years and they don't have this stuff prototyped? Shoot a laser beam that returns a line trace and if the material is of a certain type it adds X widgets per second to your inventory. You could have a rough prototype done in an hour. AsteroidRockMaterial1 is flagged as mineable and PlatinumOre, my laser does a line trace by channel and the material returns mineable and PlatinumOre, 5 PlatinumOre is added to my ship's inventory per second which is a weapon attribute of the MiningLaser item. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Maybe UE4 has spoiled me with how simple it is and Cryengine is just that bad but I seriously am at a loss.

It boggles the mind, like, seriously, WHAT THE gently caress DO THEY EVEN DO THERE. They have 300 employees and they can't have a few dudes make what is essentially just a bunch of database entry types? Why do the people who unironically say "you don't understand game development" ask these questions? I understand game development just fine and what they are (not) doing is just mindblowing.

Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jul 8, 2016

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Decrepus posted:

Imagine being so autistic that you can't understand Erin's expressions while he's on camera with Sandi. Holy poo poo lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8&t=1869s

He's dead on the inside.

(31:08 if the link doesn't work.)

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

TerraGoetia posted:

1) My partner is vegetarian. I have no idea how to cook vegetarian food at all. Is there such a thing as a veggieburger that doesn't suck, and if so, how do I make one?

I know this was intended for moomba, but Serious Eats might have your back on this one. The two recipes in the link are both by Kenji Alt-Lopez, and he's always on point.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2015/06/vegetarian-burger-recipe-recap.html

Danknificent
Nov 20, 2015

Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8&t=1869s

He's dead on the inside.

(31:08 if the link doesn't work.)

that is not a happy guy :catstare:

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8&t=1869s

He's dead on the inside.

(31:08 if the link doesn't work.)

i havent really seen much footage of sandi actually talking.

why does she make me feel like she is a snake person in human skin

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alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Justin Tyme posted:

It boggles the mind, like, seriously, WHAT THE gently caress DO THEY EVEN DO THERE. They have 300 employees and they can't have a few dudes make what is essentially just a bunch of database entry types? Why do the people who unironically say "you don't understand game development" ask these questions? I understand game development just fine and what they are (not) doing is just mindblowing.

the 3D space hats wont draw themselves you know

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