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Good Will Hrunting posted:Amount of time played does not correspond to skill at all. Except the 50s/40s/30s he's talking about has no direct correlation with time played and (allegedly) everything to do with skill e: oh hello page 500
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Yeah, i'm talking about competitive ranks. There probably shouldn't be THAT much disparity between comp ranks this early on and quick play MMR, so to see players probably more than an entire standard deviation of skill apart from each other in the same game is kinda ridiculous. It seems obvious that Blizzard wants quick play to be a cesspool that gets fast games rather than balanced ones.
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Duration of activity in thread has no correspondence to reading ability I do find it weird that Quick Play seems to take longer to match for what seems like a looser match on player ability though. Maybe because there's much less of a restriction on who can group together for quick play - not only by the game's permission with regards to rating disparity but also with regards to picking out your competitive premade. Zoness fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Night Blade posted:If it was a girl, probably a lot of people. Hey now, there are plenty of popular male streamers that are obnoxious garbage
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I didn't misread his post. My point was that I thought Quick Play tries firstly to compose a team with an equal average level, does it not? I thought that was priority number 1. If you're saying skill rank 30s/40s/50s should be with other 30s/40s/50s in Quick Play regardless of their level, you're missing the point of Quick Play.
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quick play matches by a hidden quick play mmr value. level isn't factored in at all.
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I haven't played many quick matches since competitive launched. The comp matches are usually even, I've only had one match out of 10 or so that was a landslide. I really appreciate being part of random teams that want to work together.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Amount of time played does not correspond to skill at all. True. But it correlates. It's not 100% direct. My friend who've we had for comp setups is only level 30, and his comp rank is literally over double that at 65. But if you saw a team of people with only 2-3 hours in the game going up against a team of people with 100+ hours, you would definitely say that the game would lean in favor of the latter.
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Zoness posted:quick play matches by a hidden quick play mmr value. level isn't factored in at all. Then how is it different from competitive except not displaying how lovely everyone is? I must be crazy but I swear I read a thing about how they used level to make sure they could have an equal number of veteran players with newer players or something like that. Level is literally pointless then I suppose.
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Regardless of how lovely comp matches can be, people at least seem to appreciate your healing more than in quick play.
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Star posted:Regardless of how lovely comp matches can be, people at least seem to appreciate your healing more than in quick play. I try to make sure to thank every healer in quick play, especially if they switched from someone else.
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Jul 8, 2016 17:21
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level very clearly matters in quick play because the moment I prestiged 90% of the people after that in games were also prestiged, which wasn't the case before
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There is no greater feeling in the world when multiple people from your team and the enemy team congratulate you for carrying.
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Ddraig posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRy17YdK33Y I don't think I have a single minute logged with Reaper. I'll screw around with he and Winston in quick mode tonight. Thanks!
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PerrineClostermann posted:Reminder that character classes designed to instantly kill enemies at an uncounterable distance, with none of the traditional "weaknesses" of said class, are completely balanced. Nerfing such a class is absurd, and ruins the game for people that actually matter. lol check out this post
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Then how is it different from competitive except not displaying how lovely everyone is? There are special rules for really new players but they wear off pretty quickly, I've seen a level 9 in the same game as level 100s.
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Sindai posted:It's not really. Parties are a thing though, so double-prestiged players can party with single-digit level players which makes the matchmaking super weird
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Improbable Lobster posted:I try to make sure to thank every healer in quick play, especially if they switched from someone else. Same. Always tip your
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Improbable Lobster posted:I try to make sure to thank every healer in quick play, especially if they switched from someone else. I thank mine in competitive, they are rad people
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Jul 8, 2016 18:36
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If a healer on my team earns a card, I always vote for them. It's a nice "I know this doesn't mean much, but here you go" gesture I guess
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nickhimself posted:If a healer on my team earns a card, I always vote for them. It's a nice "I know this doesn't mean much, but here you go" gesture I guess If we win I tend to assume it was because of the healer.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:31
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Mei  stop hurting me
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Eiba posted:This game's pretty fun. I'm not especially good at it, and never will be especially good at it, so I'm happy to just play quick play, and I like that I usually get matched with people who are difficult, but possible to defeat. For you.
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Is there a built in 5 second or so delay before other players' hero pics are shown or am I just constantly grouped with people playing on toasters?
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buffbus posted:Is there a built in 5 second or so delay before other players' hero pics are shown or am I just constantly grouped with people playing on toasters? The other team's picks don't show up till the match has been going a bit. Your own team should show up as soon as they pick. So if they're taking a long time they are either indecisive or playing on toasters.
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Or they're good people and letting others pick first so they can synergize. Not everyone slam-picks Genji/Tracer/Widow/Hanzo. It's a weird feeling for sure though.
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nickhimself posted:If a healer on my team earns a card, I always vote for them. It's a nice "I know this doesn't mean much, but here you go" gesture I guess I wish more people were like you frankly. I play a lot of Lucio and I almost always get a card and almost never get any clicks. But invariably when I don't pay Lucio and someone on the other team does they get like 5 even though their healing numbers/percentages are nowhere close to what I usually put up. Dumb thing to get salty about but it does annoy me. Luckily I've discovered that Winston is really awesome to switch to in quick play when it's obvious no amount of healing is going to help your team.
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I kinda like playing in the poo poo tier, being a player who can sortof aim a little bit and know the flanking routes you can do stuff like this:  My card got zero votes COME ON
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vulturesrow posted:I wish more people were like you frankly. I play a lot of Lucio and I almost always get a card and almost never get any clicks. But invariably when I don't pay Lucio and someone on the other team does they get like 5 even though their healing numbers/percentages are nowhere close to what I usually put up. Dumb thing to get salty about but it does annoy me. This disturbs me as well. Especially when the other in my team start to gloat (which in itself sucks) about how easy it was, when I have like 70% damage healed but get no clicks on my card.
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vulturesrow posted:Luckily I've discovered that Winston is really awesome to switch to in quick play when it's obvious no amount of healing is going to help your team. That's Zarya for me. I've decided I cannot Winston for poo poo. Everytime I play him I get blown up instantly somehow (and can live 10x longer as Zarya) while doing no damage. Meanwhile every Winston I meet ends up taking forever to kill. he's just not for me 
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Zoness posted:Duration of activity in thread has no correspondence to reading ability I think it's because competitive kicks everyone out after a round so much more people are actively searching for a game
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Xaris posted:That's Zarya for me. I've decided I cannot Winston for poo poo. Everytime I play him I get blown up instantly somehow (and can live 10x longer as Zarya) while doing no damage. Meanwhile every Winston I meet ends up taking forever to kill. he's just not for me It's usually the same for me. I had one match where it seemed like no one could bring down Winston's shield on the escort for some reason that was a lot of fun. Usually though I feel like the opposite of a tank when I play him.
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Rick posted:It's usually the same for me. I had one match where it seemed like no one could bring down Winston's shield on the escort for some reason that was a lot of fun. Usually though I feel like the opposite of a tank when I play him. Others have written this in the thread but Winston is only nominally a tank. What he excels at is disrupting the enemy attack and hunting down turrets, Bastions, Widowmakers,etc.
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Winston is probably the worst hero to use to kill Bastion, every damage tick of his gun will do less damage thanks to Bastion's armor and bastion's DPS just shreds through Winston's Shield, Armor, and HP.
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yea winston's not so great at killing bastion he can deal with poo poo like genji no problem tho
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Zikan posted:Winston is probably the worst hero to use to kill Bastion, every damage tick of his gun will do less damage thanks to Bastion's armor and bastion's DPS just shreds through Winston's Shield, Armor, and HP. Actually I've done pretty well with him against emplaced Bastions . But that is probably more a function of flanking them rather then anything special about Winston so fair point.
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vulturesrow posted:Actually I've done pretty well with him against emplaced Bastions . But that is probably more a function of flanking them rather then anything special about Winston so fair point. Bastion is like the hardest counter to winston. One bastion could probably single-handedly kill 2 winstons and their bubble shields before going down.
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Mr. Whale posted:Bastion is like the hardest counter to winston. One bastion could probably single-handedly kill 2 winstons and their bubble shields before going down. I said it was a fair point. But I play on PS4 so it's pretty easy to flank Bastions and kill them. I agree using Bastion as an example was a poor one. There point was more that Winston is good for hunting down individual enemies rather than fulfilling a true tank role.
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Oh man, this 1070 is incredible. Silky smooth solid 60 FPS, with maximum settings on everything (including AA) and 150% scaling for 1080p  I am captain overwatch.
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vulturesrow posted:Others have written this in the thread but Winston is only nominally a tank. What he excels at is disrupting the enemy attack and hunting down turrets, Bastions, Widowmakers,etc. Yea unless you are hopping on a bastion that has like 10 hp left the bastion will win the fight against winston every single time.
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