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Max out the ship mobility skills, throw any sort of +turn console on (and there's a lot of actually useful variants these days), get 18+ turn on even the fattest of whaleboats. And that's before boff abilities and such that improve mobility.  Inertia matters a lot more in practice, that's why stuff like the Scimitars and Vengeance feel so awkward even despite their decentish turn rate.
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Or it's a bunch of people like me that haven't played much in two years, has a head full of out of date info and politely scoffs at how much poo poo keeps getting piled into this game. Not to mention the constant assurances that "anyone with half a brain can fit a ship and get through some advance queues" now being matched with responses like "I can't believe you even had to ask that" Like hey sorry dude, the game moved on while some of us were away and frankly discussion around here always centered more on "do this build" and less on "this is why this build works so well" On top of all that the skill system is literally all new from my last login and my past experiences with this game tell me "the tool tips on these skills are useless at best, misleading and obtrusive at worst" Edit: And to my knowledge the only other major resource of game mechanics is the STO subreddits where to this day they insist that some need play a healer role, and a tank role and all that mmo holy trinity bullshit that don't apply to this game. In other words, expect more stupid questions in the thread, including mine because there's a lot of new poo poo going on and my human nature makes me try to ignore it and carry on like it's still the days when ENG was king and SCI was a trap. Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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That's a completely fair point to make. And if it wasn't constantly the same group of people saying the same things over, and over, and over, I would even agree and apologize. When it's actually new or returning players, you'll find the thread is much less vitriolic than it has been for the past couple weeks.
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Dr. Lariat posted:Edit: And to my knowledge the only other major resource of game mechanics is the STO subreddits where to this day they insist that some need play a healer role, and a tank role and all that mmo holy trinity bullshit that don't apply to this game. They're back on this poo poo? Last I checked they were flogging builds that were a year or two out of date, but sprucing them up by giving them hot fantasy names.
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hakimashou posted:Also, i strongly suggest everyone convert all their dil, and all the dil they get during the bonus event, and all the dil you get going forward, into zen immediately. Just wanted to quote this post from about a year ago. 220 dil to 500 in a year.
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Mondian posted:They're back on this poo poo? Last I checked they were flogging builds that were a year or two out of date, but sprucing them up by giving them hot fantasy names. I noticed it in a discussion of the new Doom queue, talk of how the varied objectives meant an even greater than usual focus on dedicated healers and tanks to draw attention away from warp cores and alla that mess. It may not be prevalent, I wasn't digging to deep, just skimming threads to get a broad idea of what's going on with all the new stuff.
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Psycho Landlord posted:That's a completely fair point to make. And if it wasn't constantly the same group of people saying the same things over, and over, and over, I would even agree and apologize. Same, I honestly wasn't watching where the questions were coming from, I've seen what you're describing happen around here as well.
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To be fair, as much as we've been making GBS threads in the timegating portion of it, the Doomsday queue does actually have more going on in it than any other queue so far. It's actually kinda fun.
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Speaking of the new skill stuff tho... has anyone bothered to put up a basic skill spec on the wiki? That'd probably go a long way towards helping these clueless people. Someone go do that, I'll give you fat loot for it.
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Procyon V is fun if you're just looking for an escalating furball. That Enterprise J model looks like rear end though.
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Psycho Landlord posted:I get the feeling a lot of people ranting about turn rates are trying to fly Jupiters and poo poo without replacing Pedal to the Metal. Haven't played properly in years, ain't had many or any of the shiny ships or their consoles. And yes, I like cruisers and carriers. I don't think I even have Pedal to the Metal; I don't have many specialisation points. Highest character is 57. So I've been completely lost with regards to Turn Rate for years. The general advice on Turn Rate was 'live with it'. Like, everyone recommends the Tachyokinetic Converter for Turn Rate. I've only ever had 5 Lobi, and have never wanted to open boxes in the first place.
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Bloodly posted:Haven't played properly in years, ain't had many or any of the shiny ships or their consoles. And yes, I like cruisers and carriers. I don't think I even have Pedal to the Metal; I don't have many specialisation points. Highest character is 57. What ship is it. You want a few Rcs consoles from the fleet mine, 12500 fleet marks each.
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Defiance Industries posted:The Enterprise J always looks like rear end though.
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Defiance Industries posted:That Enterprise J model looks like rear end though.
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Mondian posted:Speaking of the new skill stuff tho... has anyone bothered to put up a basic skill spec on the wiki? That'd probably go a long way towards helping these clueless people. You just said my favourite thing. https://wiki.wesleyguide.com/skillz_4_goonz
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If you don't want to spend lobi on your turn rate, I honestly suggest getting a Conductive RCS Accelerator. You can craft them or buy them for ridiculously cheap on the exchange and they have a neat proc and a number of useful variants. Plus they come as ultrarare right out of the box, which is always nice.
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SKY COQ posted:You just said my favourite thing. Bless you sir you are a goon amongst goons
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SKY COQ posted:You just said my favourite thing. Qualified wiki articles follow a peer review process. I'll need 3-5 goons to confirm this isn't dogshit.
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fakemirage posted:The Ferengi dance isn't working anymore  Also, the TOS Gorn unlock has some bug that's being fixed. https://twitter.com/CaptainGeko/status/751284567873507328 Mondian posted:Qualified wiki articles follow a peer review process. I'll need 3-5 goons to confirm this isn't dogshit.
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Mondian posted:Qualified wiki articles follow a peer review process. I'll need 3-5 goons to confirm this isn't dogshit. It's a solid generalist build, and it shits on torpedoes, as all real builds should. 8/10 would probably use and fail to understand as a newbie because this game is opaque.
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I just put radiant nanite cloud on my vengeance to pad my crystal entity score, so by pubbie standards I'm now DPS, tank and party healer all in one.
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Mondian posted:Qualified wiki articles follow a peer review process. I'll need 3-5 goons to confirm this isn't dogshit.
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g0del posted:It's good. If you want a more generalist/less glass-cannon skill set, drop the 6 ranks in admiral tactical and fill out some of the science/eng commander level skills - won't affect your DPS much, and will increase survival. Nice one, will add to the article later.
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Doing the TOS stuff was fun and I liked the little touches they put in (like the Gorn special attack being throwing a huge rock) but it also reminded me why I stopped playing because wow this game is still janky as gently caress, ground combat is still kind of a mess and so is the UI. The last time I played was before the Romulan expansion. I assume the endgame is still a combo of queues, currencies and dilithium dailies? I will never care about ground stuff but if the space content is good I could see the game staying installed for a little bit. I do love my Galaxy-class. Also what was the special unlock we're getting for doing the TOS stuff at release? Gorn race unlock? Pierson fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Of all the TOS ships, I think either the Ranger or the Gemini are my favourite designs.
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The Bunny posted:Can anybody me stoptherock wiki access please. Should be done I think. Let me know if it didn't work.
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Is there any way to get higher grade 23rd Century weapons and equipment, or do I have to upgrade it all myself? I don't think I can live without the "man hitting a sheet of aluminium with a hammer" SFX of a torpedo hitting shields anymore.
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Zutaten posted:Is there any way to get higher grade 23rd Century weapons and equipment, or do I have to upgrade it all myself? I don't think I can live without the "man hitting a sheet of aluminium with a hammer" SFX of a torpedo hitting shields anymore. Either upgrade, or grind 23c missions. 23c mobs drop TOS loot. If you have a TOS character, send a bunch of money to him before you leave the 23rd century, TOS ESD sells TOS gear, Boffs and all that up to MKIX
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Pierson posted:Also what was the special unlock we're getting for doing the TOS stuff at release? Gorn race unlock?
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SKY COQ posted:Nice one, will add to the article later. And for all the new people coming back - cryptic actually worked really hard to make the skill explanations accurate. If the tooltip says it adds 15% accuracy, it really does. Finally, for anyone who wants to come up with their own skill distribution, remember that the first skill in a line has the largest effect. Behind the scenes skills are on a 0-100 scale and the first point usually gives you 50 in the skill, with the second giving you 80 and the final one 100. If you can't figure out where to stick a skill point, starting a new chain is more effective than finishing one you've already started. If anyone finds this useful, I accept payment in catfish sammiches and in lockbox ships donated to new players.
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fakemirage posted:Som costume unlocks (like the TOS look for your Gorn) and some reward packs with marks, items, traits and so on. I tried modifying my Gorn captain after I got a TOS character to level 10 but... I couldn't find any TOS stuff.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I tried modifying my Gorn captain after I got a TOS character to level 10 but... I couldn't find any TOS stuff. Its probably bugged at the moment.
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Tuskin38 posted:Its probably bugged at the moment. It is confirmed bugged at the moment according to Geko's Twitter! Man, I am so glad that the TOS tellarites are here. It is unfortunate that you have to max all height related sliders on them to get the camera to center correctly though.
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Took some screens of the Ranger http://imgur.com/a/UGF8d http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10064383-temporal-agents-weekly-rewards Global event is working, the meter just isn't updating. According to Trendy we hit Tier 3 on Wednesday. Tuskin38 fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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fakemirage posted:Som costume unlocks (like the TOS look for your Gorn) and some reward packs with marks, items, traits and so on.
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Reputations: Persevere in gaining Reputations and you’ll gain bonus Energy Credits, Dilithium vouchers for use in Reputation Stores, and bonus Marks so that you can purchase the special gear offered by Reputations. When you reach rank 5 in all nine current reputations – Task Force Omega, Temporal Defense Initiative, Nukara Strikeforce, New Romulus, Dyson Joint Command, 8472 Counter-Command, Delta Alliance, Iconian Resistance, and Terran Task Force – your Reputation projects will be updated so that any project that awards special gear will now replace Mk XII very rare gear with Mk XIII ultra-rare gear instead! Persevere is the right term I think.
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With all the marks the different temporal agent things award, plus the rep tokens you can get from your main, if they've already done the reps, I don't think that one will be so bad. The CXP track is where the bitter tears will be wept, I expect.
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Here is a nice general skill setup that hits all the right notes and is also an image for convenience.
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