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Pissflaps posted:Hmm are either of these feasible? add the fact may ruled it out so starts her tenure as PM by lying and its not a good look
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Breath Ray posted:This is great news. Looks like Remain will be crying on the other side of their faces now. you can't have it both ways mate it's either great news for exports that sterling is weak or great news that sterling is (briefly) recovering
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Jose posted:add the fact may ruled it out so starts her tenure as PM by lying and its not a good look That'll be a piece of piss to spin away.
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The pound is almost guaranteed to fall again once Carney drops interest rates.
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Wouldnt a new GE open up for MP reselection? I find it very hard to believe the PLP would vote for a GE in that case.
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Junior G-man posted:When the traders realise in 2-3 days that the UK is still leaving and hosed, it'll start slipping again. Try 15 minutes. It's back down to where it was first thing this morning.
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Pay attention to the big chart! Ignore the decidedly more distressing little chart below! The big chart is the important one because it's bigger!
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dispatch_async posted:Try 15 minutes. It's back down to where it was first thing this morning. More volatile than bitcoin lmao
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I for one am excited about the meteoric 0.75% rise in the value of the pound.
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I don't really think it makes much difference whether the General Election is in December 2016 or May 2020. Either way the Conservative Party will increase their majority because Labour are an utter shambles. Corbyn's a rubbish leader, the PLP are pretending that we live in a world where their opinions matter more for choosing a party leader than members, & members are quite reluctant to go back to the old block vote and seem willing to lead the party into the wilderness to win the ideological...struggle isn't the right word. Handbag fight for the party's soul. I mean I guess the Liberals could double their number of MPs, going from one to two or whatever, but unless the only thing you care about is the resurrection of the corpse of the Lib Dems a snap election will be disastrous for the majority of the country.
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ukle posted:
No it doesn't. It's 55% of MPs or, more conveniently, 50%+1 to repeal FTPA.
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I thought that maybe the whole Conservative leader rigmarole was part of kicking Article 50 into the long grass for a while, with a new leader by the end of the week there's going to be little excuse for delaying it now.
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The pound is now back up to the best levels since 6am this morning! Wow!
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Ugh i'm not looking forward to this clusterfuck. I could actually cope with Corbyn going, but not to Eagle. We're going to go from impassioned hard leftist to centrist career politician who's main claim to fame is that she cried. May will destroy her. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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TinTower posted:In 2014, the "unelected" President of the European Commission was confirmed by 425 MEPs, on the back of 38 million European citizens voting for European People's Party aligned national parties. May's not PM yet. But when she is it'll be on the back of 340+ MPs (I think - the DUP still align with the Tories in these matters don't they?) not just 199. But you know that and are just being deliberately disingenuous aren't you
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Regarde Aduck posted:Ugh i'm not looking forward to this clusterfuck. Relax. Corbyn will win the Labour leadership contest. He's going nowhere.
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Breath Ray posted:This is great news. Looks like Remain will be crying on the other side of their faces now.
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hookerbot 5000 posted:I thought that maybe the whole Conservative leader rigmarole was part of kicking Article 50 into the long grass for a while, with a new leader by the end of the week there's going to be little excuse for delaying it now. Except that Theresa May has said she's not going to do anything about Article 50 until the new year, so there's proper time for negotiations. Which the EU don't want to have until...yeah, it's a dumb plan but that's our PM.
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Pissflaps posted:Relax. Corbyn will win the Labour leadership contest. He's going nowhere. Eh, i'd have accepted Owen Smith. I don't get why they went with Eagle as their candidate.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Eh, i'd have accepted Owen Smith. You don't have to accept anyone. Corbyn isn't going to stand down or lose a leadership contest. He's going to be the Labour leader at the next general election.
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i wonder how many brexit voters had summer holidays booked and hadn't bought any currency
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Pissflaps posted:You don't have to accept anyone. Corbyn isn't going to stand down or lose a leadership contest. He's going to be the Labour leader at the next general election. Well I'd certainly hope so. But I figure the PLP has many more plans up their sleeve.
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Jose posted:i wonder how many brexit voters had summer holidays booked and hadn't bought any currency Blackpool takes pounds.
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What would be the optics if May calls for an early election and it fails because Labour vote against? I could see it falling either as "May is defeated on her first motion to the house" or "Labour are too chicken to contest an election". Honestly the latter seems more likely to me, and even if it's uncertain it seems like a fair gamble for May to take.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Well I'd certainly hope so. But I figure the PLP has many more plans up their sleeve. if this is plan A, plans B through Z must be miserable
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Regarde Aduck posted:Well I'd certainly hope so. But I figure the PLP has many more plans up their sleeve. After the utter incompetence of the Chicken Coup so far, never mind the bright, shining leadership campaigns of Burnham, Cooper, and Kendall? What kind of Machiavellian master plot do you think the PLP has?
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NRVNQSR posted:What would be the optics if May calls for an early election and it fails because Labour vote against? Won't happen: Tories can revoke the FTPA with a majority, so don't need to bother with Labour support.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Blackpool takes pounds. why would anyone go to blackpool when there is lots of lovely countryside to visit
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NRVNQSR posted:What would be the optics if May calls for an early election and it fails because Labour vote against? Labour would be hosed, they'd be showing confidence in a Tory government.
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Labour's PLP problem will soon be resolved. There will be none of them left.
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Decius posted:I thought a low pound is great news? Its great for half of us and not so great but still not unbearable for the other half. But the effects of a low or high pound are often overstated by those with little understanding.
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hookerbot 5000 posted:I thought that maybe the whole Conservative leader rigmarole was part of kicking Article 50 into the long grass for a while, with a new leader by the end of the week there's going to be little excuse for delaying it now. the timetable may proposed was 'not until next year' as she wants to do negotiations before article 50. in theory it has shifted but we really have no idea until some actual policy is decided upon
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NRVNQSR posted:What would be the optics if May calls for an early election and it fails because Labour vote against?
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Ugh, never felt so depressed about politics, and it's been a depressing few weeks (and years). I may be driven to support the Lib Dems. See what has become of me!?
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Cerv posted:May's not PM yet. But when she is it'll be on the back of 340+ MPs (I think - the DUP still align with the Tories in these matters don't they?) not just 199. 340+ is still less than the 425 who voted for Juncker.
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Corbynism is the homeopathy of parliamentary politics - the fewer MPs Labour has, the stronger the movement becomes. Real change.
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mediadave posted:Ugh, never felt so depressed about politics, and it's been a depressing few weeks (and years). I may be driven to support the Lib Dems. See what has become of me!? What don't you like about Theresa May?
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Tempted to make a tampermonkey script that hides all pissflaps posts that reference Jeremy Corbyn and also any posts that quote pissflaps posts that reference Jeremy Corbyn.
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nothing to seehere posted:Won't happen: Tories can revoke the FTPA with a majority, so don't need to bother with Labour support. That doesn't sound like a great idea. Surely repealing one of their own anti-corruption bills immediately before an election would be a bit of an own goal?
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