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In this analogy, Goons play the part of 'Chandler', while Latrine appears as himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54OYS_mZlBE Moma getting a mention as 'pacific rim nation'. Edit: Literal shite snipe 
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Hey MoMa do you think Laztrine is a genuine backer or a troll?
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Jul 12, 2016 22:13
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Lazrin posted:that's just it... i do have friends in the industry... in fact, *i* may have even spent some time there! Step 1: Be cordial, so people are inclined to include you in their network. Examples of uncordial behavior is calling everyone in the community "cunts".
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Jul 12, 2016 22:13
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D1E posted:Bad day at the office MoMA? No - real busy today.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:18
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Tank Boy Ken posted:Hey MoMa do you think Laztrine is a genuine backer or a troll? Confirmed troll.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:18
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ManofManyAliases posted:Did I doubt a little? Sure - It's a crowd-funded game from a new company helmed by a mix of individuals from different walks of life. There's always a tinge of doubt. But, through the course of the last couple of years my observations, information I received from individuals and the interactions from CIG, I do believe the project will eventually succeed. I think anyone spending money on crowdfunding ought to realize that it's a gamble. If Chris pulls a similar stunt as Keiji (I don't think he will), I can't be mad at myself for willingly and knowingly spending my money on something that wasn't a sure thing. If kickstarter/crowdfunding is a gamble, how can you be sure that it WILL succeed?
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Jul 12, 2016 22:19
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ManofManyAliases posted:Please - don't even call this bullshit because you can't understand how consolidated financials work. BTW - these accounts are abbreviated. Your accountant "friend" should have informed you that you can't make any reasonable or educated guess as to the financial integrity of this one subsidiary based on the audited filing. If you can't make any reasonable or educated guess based on this one filing, why do you see this as a positive thing? You clearly posted about how this encouraged you based on the numbers present. So which is it?
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Jul 12, 2016 22:25
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he's acknowledging it may a bad bet but he's betting it will succeed, though he has no proof it will. give the guy a break. if he wants to blow his $4k let him. hes not as bad as some of the cultists we've endured.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:25
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Oh by the way guys I'm 30 pages behind so if I don't reply in 4 days then don't worry I'm a-ok. And call you parents, they miss you.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:26
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Jobbo_Fett posted:If kickstarter/crowdfunding is a gamble, how can you be sure that it WILL succeed? You cannot be sure of anything.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:26
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Jobbo_Fett posted:If you can't make any reasonable or educated guess based on this one filing, why do you see this as a positive thing? You clearly posted about how this encouraged you based on the numbers present. Stop your little entrapment games with moma, he's too clever for your feeble ruses
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Jul 12, 2016 22:27
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot be sure of anything. Star citizen.jpg 
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Jul 12, 2016 22:28
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Jobbo_Fett posted:If you can't make any reasonable or educated guess based on this one filing, why do you see this as a positive thing? You clearly posted about how this encouraged you based on the numbers present. You cannot infer as to the verisimilitude of financial success from just one subsidiary. That said, the presented numbers, in my opinion, do not appear to be negative. That's what I feel; it's what I believe. Agree to disagree.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:29
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ManofManyAliases posted:Well, yeah. The operational expense for 180 people is not cheap. But, they were still net positive cash flows at the end of the year. That's a huge positive for an entity with 22 mil operational expense. Even then, it gets consolidated to the parent, who's obviously using this entity to offset their tax burden. How can you say this is a positive when its just 1 sub out of 5 or 42 or whatever number is the real one? You just said you can't take a REASONABLE guess at this stuff.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:29
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot be sure of anything. how about a friendly wager? If you give me $10k, I promise to give you a completionist package if Star Citizen exists in two years
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Jul 12, 2016 22:30
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Guess Moma is going to ignore Streetrollers epic postStreetroller posted:Ok, so after a while of dealing with Cloud Imperium Games, I have finally received a refund of $3000 USD.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:31
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ManofManyAliases posted:And 4 years in - no investigation of any kind. This has something to do with crowdfunding. You'd think someone who raised over 100 mil via crowdfunding and was suspected of operating a scam would at least have an inquiry opened against him and his company . . . Oh, but there aren't any? Lol, you're a literal tard if you think that an investigation happens as soon as a company starts and not once they have something go on. You're also an idiot for thinking that any serious investigation would openly talk about a criminal investigation of a "high profile" company.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:34
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:how about a friendly wager? If you give me $10k, I promise to give you a completionist package if Star Citizen exists in two years This person has a pretty good track record. I know this because I recognize the poster's name and I have rose-tinted glasses about the last 4000 pages. I'd say it's a pretty good wager. I mean pledge. Don't trust pgabz tho he only produces poo poo content. Said so himself.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:34
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot be sure of anything. I am sure you will post again in this thread.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:35
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Streetroller posted:Then, on July 11th, I was contacted by an LA County Investigator inquiring information about CIG and RSI.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:36
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Atreiden posted:Guess Moma is going to ignore Streetrollers epic post You see, it's totally normal for a company to have to be dragged kicking and screaming to give a customer a refund he is entitled to by law. Because %0.0026 percent of the money raised is worth more than the potential PR backlash of a customer that feels he has been cheated and has legal avenues for getting back his money.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:36
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot infer as to the verisimilitude of financial success from just one subsidiary. That said, the presented numbers, in my opinion, do not appear to be negative. That's what I feel; it's what I believe. Agree to disagree. Oh for gently caress's sake, MoMA. Please. PLEASE stop. Embrace the poo poo show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwzg7SYZKF0
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Jul 12, 2016 22:36
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Streetroller posted:Ok, so after a while of dealing with Cloud Imperium Games, I have finally received a refund of $3000 USD. This is an excellent post and deserves to be seen outside of this thread - maybe a few more whales can yank their money out of the blazing dumpster that is Star Citizen before it's too late. The video is a good idea. If Derek spots it, it would also be worth adding this post to the OP. Another option is having it as a brief thread in this subforum so people can actually find it again.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:36
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who wants to infer my verisimilitude
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Jul 12, 2016 22:37
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I'll give dicklaz one thing, he is more entertaining to read than Toast.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:38
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot infer as to the verisimilitude of financial success from just one subsidiary.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:39
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SirPhoebos posted:You see, it's totally normal for a company to have to be dragged kicking and screaming to give a customer a refund he is entitled to by law. Because %0.0026 percent of the money raised is worth more than the potential PR backlash of a customer that feels he has been cheated and has legal avenues for getting back his money. Especially when the company lies to paypal and a DA. Totally a company you should intrust with $4000 right Moma?
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Jul 12, 2016 22:39
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Dial A For Awesome posted:This is an excellent post and deserves to be seen outside of this thread - maybe a few more whales can yank their money out of the blazing dumpster that is Star Citizen before it's too late. The video is a good idea. If Derek spots it, it would also be worth adding this post to the OP. Another option is having it as a brief thread in this subforum so people can actually find it again. He's already blogged it! http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/07/star-citizen-this-war-of-mine/comment-page-1/#comment-3465
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Jul 12, 2016 22:39
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot infer as to the verisimilitude of financial success from just one subsidiary. That said, the presented numbers, in my opinion, do not appear to be negative. That's what I feel; it's what I believe. Agree to disagree. Star Citizen: That's what I feel; it's what I believe.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:39
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ManofManyAliases posted:You cannot infer as to the verisimilitude of financial success from just one subsidiary. That said, the presented numbers, in my opinion, do not appear to be negative. That's what I feel; it's what I believe. Agree to disagree. Aside from typing/talking like a jackass, this is the first post you've ever made that's worth a goat gently caress. Tentative tone, non-confrontational, states an opinion. That'll do, Toast.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:40
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Atreiden posted:Especially when the company lies to paypal and a DA. Totally a company you should intrust with $4000 right Moma? "The DA won't know"
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Jul 12, 2016 22:41
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ManofManyAliases posted:Who hires someone back as a consultant if they're considered a failure? If Microsoft fired him and wanted him away from the product, they wouldn't hire him back. What about Peter Molyneux? Everyone considered his later games as failures or, at the very least, overpromised games that couldn't deliver on tons of content. That didn't stop people from trusting him again and again.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:42
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ManofManyAliases posted:Let me go ask the 180 people sitting in the UK with their thumbs in their asses if development ended. Eagerly awaiting your reply to this. 
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Jul 12, 2016 22:43
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Star Citizen: That's what I feel; it's what I believe. I mean, we just had the name updated but this one is too good to pass up.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:43
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" a significant expansion of the base game " - Ortwin "MVP " - Roberts Ortwin argues that the scope of the project has changed, thus explaining why they havent delivered what was promised in the kickstarter But straight from the horses mouth on record, the CEO of the company (Roberts) explains they are aiming to release a Minimal Viable Product Get sued to gently caress and back CIG I hope they see jail time
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Jul 12, 2016 22:44
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loving lol at ortwin ortsplaining the law to a DA.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:45
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Streetroller posted:Ok, so after a while of dealing with Cloud Imperium Games, I have finally received a refund of $3000 USD. Is this on reddit yet? I'm bad at reddit. Someone do this and post the link.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:46
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Versimilitude motherfucker.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:46
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ManofManyAliases posted:I'm no "kid," Jr. And, I don't need to know a thing about game development to understand business. Wow, you really are stupid. No wonder you gave them 4,000$
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ManofManyAliases posted:And I keep asking where you guys get this assumption that there is no plan? Literally no one here has any insight as to the actual project management behind CIG's doors. So your speculations and assumptions are as asinine as mine in that regard. So what you're saying is they might not have a plan? Totally selling me on this game, brah! You'd think "having a plan" would be a major thing to communicate to the people expecting a final product.
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