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Cojawfee posted:What if the "clones" were the real crew members who were sedated and the other ones were the clones thinking they were the originals and they choose to kill what they think are clones. Best to burn them all, just to be sure.
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Cojawfee posted:What if the "clones" were the real crew members who were sedated and the other ones were the clones thinking they were the originals and they choose to kill what they think are clones. You just wrote a Metal Gear Solid plot.
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Jul 13, 2016 23:19
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Timby posted:You just wrote a Metal Gear Solid plot. A Metal Gear Solid plot?!?
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Jul 13, 2016 23:32
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Gaz-L posted:A Metal Gear Solid plot?!? Pulaski: "Tell me Prime Minister, how many of your people are clones?" Riker: "Clones?!" Pulaski: "Clones." Prime Minister: "Clones." And actual exchange in the episode.
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Jul 13, 2016 23:46
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Fister Roboto posted:Pulaski: "Tell me Prime Minister, how many of your people are clones?" It's better with, like, inflection.
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Jul 13, 2016 23:52
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Timby posted:You just wrote a Metal Gear Solid plot. Only if the clone that orchestrated your clone murder was a secret clone of you too, made to test you to see if you could order your clone to kill a clone of itself. In a VR simulation. Being run on your clone. By the original you. Who is also a clone.
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Jul 14, 2016 00:11
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Sash! posted:Only if the clone that orchestrated your clone murder was a secret clone of you too, made to test you to see if you could order your clone to kill a clone of itself. CLONE BONE!
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Jul 14, 2016 00:17
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Fister Roboto posted:Pulaski: "Tell me Prime Minister, how many of your people are clones?" Cut from the end of that scene is a shirtless guy with a mullet standing in the corner shouting "Les Enfants Terribles!" in a questionable English accent.
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Jul 14, 2016 00:20
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 New thread! New thread title! (Gross). And new TOS posts!  TOS: S2, E3: "The Changeling"Wherein Kirk saves humanity from mechanized annihilation by being a jerk to a robot. Oh, and "Mirror, Mirror" is up next. Great. I'll let you decide if that's sarcasm or not. Oh, and I had a chance to play a board game called Star Trek: Panic! a few days ago at a board game con. It's based on a game called Castle Panic! that is a co-op tower defense type of game. I liked the Trek version way better because it adds characters and missions to the mix, both in really thematic and mechanically rewarding ways. As board games go, it's fairly light, so check it out even if you're not normally that flavor of nerd. Just don't expect to win easily or often. Good co-op board games are brutally difficult, and this one is no exception.
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Jul 14, 2016 00:42
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Man I love DS9 but these Ferenghi centric episodes are pretty dire.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:01
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Rhyno posted:Man I love DS9 but these Ferenghi centric episodes are pretty dire. Is this some sort of new slang the kids are using for cool like "man that's so dire."
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Jul 14, 2016 03:06
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A dire wolf is like a really evil wolf or something, and they're in Game of Thrones, so
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Eh the one with the running joke of "Acting! Grand Nagus Brunt" was dull as dishwater.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:35
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Fister Roboto posted:Up The Long Ladder is definitely one of the worst episodes of Star Trek. Here's a colony that has only been able to survive via cloning, but now they need new genetic material. The crew adamantly refuses to donate any of theirs because...? So they have to take drastic measures and forcibly take some material from Riker and Pulaski. Kind of a dick move, but understandable given the dire circumstances. But then Riker decides that the best course of action is to murder their clones in cold blood. it's also a pretty dick move to clone slaves/indoctrinated cult members, the colony doesn't have a right to keep their poo poo going no matter what
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As a metaphor for abortion, it's incredibly clumsy. They aren't rape babies, they just aren't, there's no real reason to be so mad about their existence and nothing to gain by destroying them. On a ship as huge as the Enterprise, there had to be at least a few people willing to donate if Picard just took a survey or something.
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Rhyno posted:Man I love DS9 but these Ferenghi centric episodes are pretty dire. The Ferengi episodes are awesome
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The Ferengi episodes are awesome Not the one where Zek is brainwashed by the Orb to be a nice person.
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Rhyno posted:Not the one where Zek is brainwashed by the Orb to be a nice person. Uh, sounds like Zek was in it, therefore it was a good episode
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Jul 14, 2016 04:22
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Just finished a rerun of The Most Toys. I think this is my favorite Data episode because he tries to ice the villain at the end and then lies about it with no regret.
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Jul 14, 2016 05:01
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HIJK posted:then lies about it with no regret. But he's from Starfleet and I have it on good authority that they don't lie
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Jul 14, 2016 05:20
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Sash! posted:But he's from Starfleet and I have it on good authority that they don't lie Are you going to trust that hew-mon propaganda?????
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Jul 14, 2016 05:24
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"I'm with Starfleet, we don't lie." "We did a yeager loop and Josh was a bitch rear end pussy and killed himself."
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I sympathize with people who don't like Ferengi episodes. I don't find Rom endearing or funny at all, and the Ferengi episodes are usually relatively Rom-heavy.
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Jul 14, 2016 05:38
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I sympathize with people who don't like Ferengi episodes. I don't find Rom endearing or funny at all, and the Ferengi episodes are usually relatively Rom-heavy. Counterpoint. I laugh out loud every time I watch it.
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What is with nerds and their dislike of the Ferengi episodes? Is it because they're extremely social and don't examine fungus on other planets or something? drat.
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Rhyno posted:Man I love DS9 but these Ferenghi centric episodes are pretty dire. Look at this wrong guy, here. The Ferengi own. Just as long as we try to forget the one where Quark had a sex change operation, that one was actually pretty terrible.
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Profit and Lace is the only bad DS9 Ferengi episode. Edit: Vorta Iggy Pop
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True story: When I first saw profit and lace, I was eating Velveeta mac and cheese and I threw up. I gave the rest to the dog.
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Grand Fromage posted:Profit and Lace is the only bad DS9 Ferengi episode. Also, be careful not to confuse Profit and Lace, which is terrible, with Profit and Loss, which is a send-up of Casablanca starring Quark and Garak.
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Trent posted:Counterpoint. The "lol wrong turn" gag is funny, but are you saying it's Rom's "noooooo" that makes that scene for you? Because seriously, Rom's not doing anything for me in that scene. Velisarius posted:What is with nerds and their dislike of the Ferengi episodes? Is it because they're extremely social and don't examine fungus on other planets or something? drat.  The "Ferengi episodes don't do it for me" contingent here is a distinct minority, what the hell are you talking about?
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Trent posted:Counterpoint. I kinda wish we'd seen this scene from the other side in the middle of a Sisko-heavy episode instead.
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Timby posted:If you want to read something incredibly in-depth about TMP's production -- I mean so in-depth it makes the Cinefex articles look like broad abstracts -- pick up Return to Tomorrow: The Production of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Preston Neal Jones was given unfettered access to everyone involved, and the book covers literally everything: Pre-production and writing, filming, and the third section is like 100+ pages of ultra-detailed information about all the VFX work. Like, there will be six paragraphs about how a single two-second shot was accomplished. It was originally intended as a cover story for CFQ, they killed the story, and then last year Jones decided to release his entire manuscript.
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Trent posted:Counterpoint. I like to imagine that The Sisko just sits in his office all day staring at the wall when he's not one of the main characters in the episode. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
Ferengi episodes are all good, except for you know what. I really can't stand Klingon/Worf episodes though. I can't even imagine how much I'd of hated the Worf show that Michael Dorn was trying to sell. I don't understand the appeal at all.
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Worf is amazing, what are you talking about? He's like the most hilarious character in all of Star Trek, because he is a giant humorless, inept goon with a giant stick up his rear end. He's basically Sam the Eagle. "I am not a merry man."
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My wife loves every single Ferenghi episode, including Profit and Lace. Especially Profit and Lace. She also has a big lady boner for Bashir. Like seriously by the time we'd finished watching DS9 she'd already rewatched all of the Bashir-centric episodes like twice. I'd look over at her and she'd be like "Don't judge me!"
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Gammatron 64 posted:Worf is amazing, what are you talking about? He's like the most hilarious character in all of Star Trek, because he is a giant humorless, inept goon with a giant stick up his rear end. He's basically Sam the Eagle. That stuff is fine and good. Worf himself is fine, and a good character, but I just can't get behind all the stupid Klingon religion and HONOUR stuff.
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Klingon stuff is great when you realize it's all bullshit they just put up to look good among each other, and Worf is the only one who actually believes in those ideals. Very similar to real samurai and knights.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Worf is amazing, what are you talking about? He's like the most hilarious character in all of Star Trek, because he is a giant humorless, inept goon with a giant stick up his rear end. He's basically Sam the Eagle. Yeah, Michael Dorn is the absolute best.  "Are you the son of Mogh?" "Yes, I am." "Is it true you can kill someone just by looking at them?" "... Only when I am angry."
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WickedHate posted:Klingon stuff is great when you realize it's all bullshit they just put up to look good among each other, and Worf is the only one who actually believes in those ideals. Very similar to real samurai and knights. Pretty much this. Real Klingons use HONOR and GLORY as excuses to get shitfaced, get in huge brawls, and blow poo poo up. Worf is a Klingon Fundamentalist who can't wrap his giant head around this concept of "fun". Martok is the best Klingon character on DS9 though  Worf does eventually lighten up, but he's still real subtle about it.
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Worf is a Russian guy who read about honor and glory in a book and got it wrong.
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