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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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Acaila posted:My favourite news story of the day - Knit your way out of prison, aka the judge that says "Did ye, aye?" A legal system based around mod challenges? I'm alright with that
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 13:31 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 10:24 |
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I did immediately think if it were me I'd be going straight to my mum for assistance. I've never even managed to complete a scarf mind you. And how pleasant it is that Pissflaps isn't around to make sexist comments about me and knitting.
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 14:25 |
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It's something I'm more likely to do when I'm stressed and want to have something mindless to distract me from whatever fuckery is going on - since the results of the EU referendum I've made 2 dresses, a jumper and a minion.
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 14:37 |
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I don't think the challenge was specific enough. She should have been asked to knit a jumper with a depiction of the incident to a high degree of realism.
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 14:39 |
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hookerbot 5000 posted:It's something I'm more likely to do when I'm stressed and want to have something mindless to distract me from whatever fuckery is going on - since the results of the EU referendum I've made 2 dresses, a jumper and a minion. The conservative party, boosting british industriousness one referendum at a time
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 14:43 |
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Chas McGill posted:I don't think the challenge was specific enough. She should have been asked to knit a jumper with a depiction of the incident to a high degree of realism. The next trend in hipster jumpers: portraits of low level social discord Niric fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jul 12, 2016 |
# ? Jul 12, 2016 15:57 |
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Glad to see David Coburn is still an idiot. Something quietly reassuring there.
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# ? Jul 13, 2016 21:17 |
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Scottish notes are not legal tender in the united kingdom either, the bank of england just accepts them.
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# ? Jul 13, 2016 21:40 |
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I flew back from Tallinn yesterday and the currency exchange in the airport had separate values for Scottish pounds and British pounds, with Scottish pounds being 0.70 and British ones 0.60.
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# ? Jul 13, 2016 21:59 |
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OwlFancier posted:Scottish notes are not legal tender in the united kingdom either, the bank of england just accepts them. Thank you captain McObvious. Would you like to be part of the Scottish Government's EU consuls and diplomats.
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# ? Jul 13, 2016 22:03 |
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Extreme0 posted:Extreme Poverty is becoming the norm. Personally If I was a blairite I would prefer gentle poverty like the gentle austerity program While I get that the last 6 years of austerity and welfare "reform" are a key factor here, it's annoying that the SNP/Scottish Government response to growing poverty in Scotland is a literal "it's all Westminster's fault and there's nothing we can do." Which is absolute crap. It's the same do-nothing-blame-someone-else routine from a party that's been in power for almost a decade. The SNP's record on the economy has been piss poor, and it pisses me off that they never get pulled up on this.
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# ? Jul 13, 2016 22:26 |
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On a totally different note (hehe note, see what I did there?) Scotpol meet up Edinburgh End of August Political comedy and top bantz. Who is in?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 01:08 |
Acaila posted:On a totally different note (hehe note, see what I did there?) I'm in if someone can spot me 5,000 UK pounds. That's equal to, what, $30 US?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 02:09 |
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Well I've got 50 krone in my wallet?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 03:12 |
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Niric posted:While I get that the last 6 years of austerity and welfare "reform" are a key factor here, it's annoying that the SNP/Scottish Government response to growing poverty in Scotland is a literal "it's all Westminster's fault and there's nothing we can do." Which is absolute crap. It's the same do-nothing-blame-someone-else routine from a party that's been in power for almost a decade. The SNP's record on the economy has been piss poor, and it pisses me off that they never get pulled up on this. Except none of that is true?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 06:55 |
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Coohoolin posted:Except none of that is true? This bit: quote:the last 6 years of austerity and welfare "reform" are a key factor here Is true: quote:"gaps in income for CAB clients are most often caused by the benefits system." This bit: quote:the SNP/Scottish Government response to growing poverty in Scotland is a literal "it's all Westminster's fault and there's nothing we can do." Is true: quote:a spokeswoman for the Scottish Government said: “We share CAS’ concerns about poverty in Scotland. “We are being forced to spend £100 million a year tackling the effects of UK Government welfare cuts when this money should be spent lifting people out of poverty." This bit: quote:Which is absolute crap. Is true This bit: quote:It's the same do-nothing-blame-someone-else routine from a party that's been in power for almost a decade. The SNP's record on the economy has been piss poor Is also true. This bit: quote:it pisses me off that they never get pulled up on this. Is my opinion, coupled with a negative claim which are, famously, very hard to prove. If you're going to insist on continually doing zero effort, zero content posts that mindlessly (and without any actual argument) defend the government, you could least occasionally make them funny or something.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 08:16 |
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OwlFancier posted:Scottish notes are not legal tender in the united kingdom either, the bank of england just accepts them. For that matter, Bank of England notes aren't legal tender outside the UK. They just exchange for it. Extreme0, why did you just decide to become an aggregated news feed?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 08:17 |
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Niric posted:If you're going to insist on continually doing zero effort, zero content posts that mindlessly (and without any actual argument) defend the government, you could least occasionally make them funny or something. Please, Coohoolin isn't even the biggest mindless nationalist HTB in Aberdeen. He's got a long way to go before he can aspire to be Peter Dow.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 08:21 |
I'd love to attend a scotpol booze up but unfortunately a little out of my attendance radius. Jedit posted:Extreme0, why did you just decide to become an aggregated news feed? I appreciate it.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 08:29 |
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Acaila posted:On a totally different note (hehe note, see what I did there?) I'd be up for this. Not mark Thomas though- I've got tickets for him already! tithin posted:I appreciate it. Agreed
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 09:03 |
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Jedit posted:Please, Coohoolin isn't even the biggest mindless nationalist HTB in Aberdeen. He's got a long way to go before he can aspire to be Peter Dow. I know he's not that bad (see ukmt for people who are that bad), but the posts with no substance or argument are frustrating, and it'd be good if the scotpol thread could rise above "X is poo poo/no, X is great" Because there's enough of that elsewhere
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 09:10 |
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Jedit posted:Extreme0, why did you just decide to become an aggregated news feed? It's at least provoking some discussion. Though I guess that's what they say about Ukip. Acaila posted:Who is in? I'm generally repelled by anything involving the word 'bantz', however I'll make an exception for this one
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 10:27 |
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I like the news feed, it's perfect for extremely lazy people like myself. Extreme0 is performing a public service.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 10:49 |
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Chas McGill posted:Extreme0 is performing a public service. Don't say that too loud or the Tories will privatise him
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 11:08 |
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I was using bantz in a purely ironic fashion of course. Niric posted:I'd be up for this. Not mark Thomas though- I've got tickets for him already! I was thinking we could find something on the free fringe with a political bent, that way people could pay what they could manage? Either that or I make you all come see the Dark Room again with me so we can shout abuse at strangers.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 13:55 |
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Niric posted:This bit: It's just as lazy to simply accuse them of "always blaming Westminster" instead of actually doing something. That's an empirical claim you've made, attributing blame to the Scottish government, and you're claiming stuff like "we're being forced to alleviate Westminster cuts" isn't true, I guess? I mean unless there's an obvious way the Scottish government can subsidise Westminster cuts and at the same time invest MORE money into the economy, all without borrowing or raising taxes in an effective way (something the devolved tax powers do not allow for), or unless you can demonstrate a way that should be apparent to the Scottish government, then your claim is easily dismissible.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 14:37 |
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Acaila posted:On a totally different note (hehe note, see what I did there?) Provisionally, aye. As long as it doesn't clash with hockey. Acaila posted:I was thinking we could find something on the free fringe with a political bent, that way people could pay what they could manage?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 15:20 |
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https://twitter.com/finlayharris/status/753486756989796352 Patrick doing us a service. Philip Hammond says a separate EU deal for Scotland isn't going to happen, a contradiction to what David Mundell said He's also said the following. quote:The new chancellor ruling out changes to the Barnett Formula Federal UK is brought up again, this time from the Constitution Reform Group quote:DEVOLUTION should be “turned upside down” to create a federal Britain, a group of senior cross-party politicians insists today as it publishes a draft Bill to create a new Act of Union. Independence may be best chance to save EU nationals from the monster that is Theresa May quote:NICOLA Sturgeon is on a collision course with the new Prime Minister over immigration and independence may prove her best option to protect EU nationals already in Scotland, a leading academic has said. SNP accused of playing 'Fast and loose' with thousands of Jobs over Trident by GMB Scotland quote:A shipbuilding union has accused the SNP of playing "fast and loose" with Scottish jobs and the economy with its opposition to Trident renewal. Robin Mcalpine on what to do and not to do campaign wise Disability campaigners urge Scottish Government to act as welfare powers are transferred allegations have prompted accusations that economic data produced by ONS as been “manipulated” for political reasons. The Scottish National Party (SNP) and an economic expert have called for an investigation. Arms firm profiting from refugee crisis paid for exclusive access to MSPs Paddy Power odds are for Scottish Independence are now 4/7 for Indy and 5/4 for against https://twitter.com/Lateline/status/753557344017981440 Alex Salmond opinion on Thersha May's appointment of Fanny Johnson as Foreign Secretary https://twitter.com/Ross_Greer/status/753580675790413824 Trainers of the World Unite Stephen Gethins (SNP MP North East Fife) is going to be doing an AMA on r/Europe at Friday 12 PM And last but not least. Feel the urge to pee on people? Don't do it on a Airplane...actually don't do at all. quote:A MAN has been arrested after allegedly urinated on some of the passengers on a flight to the Scottish capital. Jedit posted:Extreme0, why did you just decide to become an aggregated news feed? To create discussion amongst the thread. Plus I tend to link to things that might not get caught on in mainstream media so hence why I feel it's my responsibility as the OP of this thread to at least bring some life into it. Angepain posted:Don't say that too loud or the Tories will privatise him If I became privatised, I would be linking The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Express, The Telegraph and Gideo Fawkes. If that's the case you lot are going to have to renationalise me otherwise I'm doomed forever to be spouting about Foreigners and Benefit scroungers. Extreme0 fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jul 14, 2016 |
# ? Jul 14, 2016 16:43 |
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Extreme0 posted:Patrick doing us a service. I wouldn't put it past him but we don't actually know it was Harvie
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 16:47 |
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Coohoolin posted:It's just as lazy to simply accuse them of "always blaming Westminster" instead of actually doing something. That's an empirical claim you've made, attributing blame to the Scottish government, and you're claiming stuff like "we're being forced to alleviate Westminster cuts" isn't true, I guess? In that Herald story they literally blame Westminster and say they can't do anything. The Scottish government has many, many powers and tools they can use to influence the economy. Yes, borrowing powers and more control over taxation would give them more tools, but these are not the be all and end all of government intervention (and that's not even getting into your problematic use of "effective" with respect to tax varying powers). That they are still, after a decade in power, claiming that they don't have the means or the political will to influence the Scottish economy - and that people like you accept this as a reasonable thing for a government to claim - is mind boggling. And let's not forget they recently campaigned on the promise of doing nothing with the new "effective" powers regarding current levels of taxes. The Scottish government's record on the economy is not impressive. It doesn't even compare favourably with rUK. Look at my post in the previous thread I just linked to, look at the Fraser of Allander Institute report it refers to. Absolving a national government, even one partially limited by its position within a larger political and economic framework, for all responsibility for the state of that nation's economy is absurd, yet this is exactly what you're doing.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:24 |
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Angepain posted:I wouldn't put it past him but we don't actually know it was Harvie https://twitter.com/patrickharvie/status/753621241861464064
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:26 |
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Angepain posted:I wouldn't put it past him but we don't actually know it was Harvie Too high up for the wee man to reach.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:28 |
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Please recall that Harvie and other greens have the power of levitation
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:42 |
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Boy, the new Stomp! reboot is really going in an unexpected direction.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:48 |
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keep punching joe posted:Too high up for the wee man to reach. Patrick Harvie knows how to get high
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:49 |
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So I just discovered the electionleaflets.org website, and while I am sad at the lack of Ronnie the Crofter, I did find something from the Scottish Christian Party, aka the local teuchter protest vote lot: https://electionleaflets.org/leaflets/10763/
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 14:25 |
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Acaila posted:So I just discovered the electionleaflets.org website, and while I am sad at the lack of Ronnie the Crofter, I did find something from the Scottish Christian Party, aka the local teuchter protest vote lot: Oh, I got that one!
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 15:41 |
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So I saw the headlines on the Tory papers today were all about May going to Scotland to talk to Nicola to save the union. Is she going to let us stay in the EU? Or maybe give Holyrood full control of immigration policy? Change Barnett to give us more money? Full communism now? I can't think of anything remotely plausible that she could offer us that would make up for Brexit.
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 16:52 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 10:24 |
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marktheando posted:I can't think of anything remotely plausible that she could offer us that would make up for Brexit. Not that I've given it a great deal of thought or anything, but would May have much to lose by offering full fiscal autonomy? It might make her look a little weak, but I suspect that would be short lived and could easily be spun into generosity/decentralisation/"look how canny and conciliatory Theresa is". The effect on the UK finances would be relatively minimal in the grand scheme of things wouldn't it? It's a tangible step towards independence, but if it prevents another Indy ref (assuming there's a possibility of yes this time) in the next 5-10 years then it seems like a relatively cheap bit of can kicking for May.
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 17:35 |