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Wheany posted:15% of all sunlight hitting the the rest is used to mine the last bitcoin
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 12:31 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:09 |
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creationist believer posted:yospos drug commercial: did things that used to bring your pleasure now just bring you kevin? this is from a few pages ago but i do not care
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 14:08 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:google, having perfected the immortality serum and all manner of autonomous machinery realizes that they are about to inflict upon humanity a horrifying loss of purpose; they fret for some time before larry comes up with the solution: "how about we have everyone just juggle an infinite series of incompatible messaging applications for the rest of eternity?"
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 14:13 |
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I first read the title of the thread as "Gaze upon the Greatness of Google Pages" and it's only when I saw it on Awful.app that I realized the "Pages" was a unit of measurement, not part of the title. Well, that's my story. Thanks for listening!
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 14:17 |
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SolTerrasa posted:Now that I think about it I guess I kind of get it: Hangouts is getting kind of old and the brand doesn't really work for young people, so you invent some new brands for the new shiny functionality. But you can't kill the old brands, because if you kill the old brands people get mad (aren't people still mad about GTalk, the last time google did this?). I guess you could choose to not do anything, just leave Hangouts like it is, but the features in Allo are actually genuinely pretty cool and it would suck not to have people use them. So you end up choosing the lesser of two evils: a pile of apps that have overlapping functionality. So I guess probably nobody's dumb or evil or self-aggrandizing, they just make the best of a situation that they found themselves in. no no no do not defend this poo poo here is what users want: imessage clone specifically they want a single application on their phone and place on the web where they can chat either by sms or by im and have it seemlessly switch between the two automatically. they want those threads to appear on the web the same way they appear on the phone. thats what they want the problem is that they have had all the tools since the grandcental (voice) acquistion to do this without any problem. sure add in video chat and all of that poo poo too, but there is no reason--none--that they couldnt just make a single app that when you activate an android device asks if you want to register your carrier number to your messaging app and bam done hell have it take over your carrier voicemail at the same time just like voice/hangouts can do already so those appear there too theyre like a retarded kid trying to assemble one of those puzzles you see in preschools where theres like four pieces and its obvious where each one goes and they just cant do it on their own its completely indefensible that they cant get this right
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 14:59 |
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its a good way for the person deciding to build a new messaging app to demonstrate their importance and do a li'l empire building.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 15:02 |
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LastInLine posted:no no no do not defend this poo poo I feel like this should be tattooed backwards onto the foreheads of various important people at Google.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 15:04 |
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it's like everyone at google hasn't sent or received an sms in years it's kind of funny that seamless messaging is really just graceful protocol downgrading for legacy phones so in at least one sense apple has the best backwards compatibility
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 15:37 |
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Perplx posted:it's like everyone at google hasn't sent or received an sms in years
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 16:04 |
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they had to make allo because hangouts isn't a name you can say while loving
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 16:29 |
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seems to me like Slack is Wave except not poo poo
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 16:36 |
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you guys are writing a lot of words trying to explain google's dumb messaging strategy. here is what it actually is: writing something new is a lot more interesting than maintaining and polishing old code. if Google management had some discipline they would direct their engineers to iteratively improve their existing products instead of continuously rewriting things like an idiot Linux desktop distro
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:11 |
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Mr Dog posted:seems to me like Slack is Wave except not poo poo
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 17:18 |
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LastInLine posted:no no no do not defend this poo poo but then how are you going to make promo if you're just reusing whats already been done?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 18:03 |
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Progressive JPEG posted:but then how are you going to make promo if you're just reusing whats already been done? you make a new service that can access all the other ones!
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 18:06 |
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The Management posted:you guys are writing a lot of words trying to explain google's dumb messaging strategy. here is what it actually is: the financial incentives are all structured around rewarding work on 'meaty' projects if you can't find one, the smart move in this system is to invent one
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 18:07 |
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someone's post is stuck?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 18:16 |
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LastInLine posted:no no no do not defend this poo poo works fine with hangouts an Fi, Bitch.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:23 |
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SolTerrasa posted:I was trying to list all of them earlier and I learned about some new ones that I had only vaguely heard of. this is p close spaces is the inheritor for messages, which is the brainchild of the g+ folks and done by them hangouts does everything but is too heavyweight for freephones and sms/whatsapp only type folks, so allo and duo are the simpler mobile only solutions for that. android itself has non-branded basic dialers for the really bad providers voice is about your actual number, like voicemails and history and stuff fi is cell service (owns) i expect the enterprise/consumer split with hangouts and the other apps to be made more explicit moving forward
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:33 |
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LastInLine posted:here is what users want: imessage clone this is exactly hangouts. conversation based, single or group, sms, chat, voice or video, synced between web and devices with notifications.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:36 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:this is exactly hangouts. conversation based, single or group, sms, chat, voice or video, synced between web and devices with notifications. but for how much longer?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:38 |
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for the triple post combo: i don't remember if i told yospos but i'm like 70% responsible for the hangouts branding lol. the eng teams in seattle and stockholm would always idle in a persistent group call. i made the first one once we had nameable rooms rather than just ids and called it hangout since we just hung out in it all week. the rest is history i guess. e: ^^^ foiled. probably forever idk. they'll eventually all interoperate. esp since allo and duo need a mobile device.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:39 |
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Hangouts Owns
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:46 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:for the triple post combo: so you have some influence over this disaster? can you rein it in to one app and possibly undo the horrific hangouts name? normal people don't "hang out" in chat/messaging apps. they send messages to each other and reply when they can. "hanging out" doesn't make any sense unless you're a dev sitting in a chat room all the time.
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 20:48 |
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i think hangouts is a nice name
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 21:33 |
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Last Chance posted:so you have some influence over this disaster? can you rein it in to one app and possibly undo the horrific hangouts name? normal people don't "hang out" in chat/messaging apps. they send messages to each other and reply when they can. what is the deal with airline peanuts
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 21:37 |
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whats the deal with iMessage? I message? i don't message. you message, I ignore
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 21:54 |
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my company has been spending a year moving to google apps from lotus notes and everyone just uses sametime instead of hangouts. maybe Google could try copying a 20+ year old messaging app?
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 23:28 |
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sametime is really good
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# ? Jul 14, 2016 23:35 |
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Perplx posted:it's like everyone at google hasn't sent or received an sms in years legacy phones and GSM/GPRS zones
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 00:01 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:for the triple post combo: google has been telling people they're removing sms from hangouts and to use messenger instead.
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 00:02 |
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:my company has been spending a year moving to google apps from lotus notes and everyone just uses sametime instead of hangouts. maybe Google could try copying a 20+ year old messaging app? a lot of people could learn a lot from a 20+ year old messaging app, sametime is unironically good. we're migrating from notes to outlook, and skype for business is loving embarassing. the UI is a dumpster fire, there's so much goddamn wasted space from buttons meant for a touchscreen and dumb cutsey word bubbles around the messages. there's a noticable delay in hitting enter and seeing my message display in the chat. can't just paste a picture and send it instantly, inlined with the chat. nope pasting a pic forces the receiver to open a dialog and download the picture. im really gonna miss my custome emoticon collection
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 00:50 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:this is exactly hangouts. conversation based, single or group, sms, chat, voice or video, synced between web and devices with notifications. except it cant do sms on the web unless you port your number to google voice. also you have to choose the protocol yourself it cant fail back to sms automatically. also now sms and hangouts will have two separate threads. also google will periodically tell you that maybe it should be two separate apps its basically an imessage clone made by someone who completely misunderstands why imessage is good where every feature is done is some monkeys paw way where its what you asked for implemented in a way that makes it entirely useless
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 01:02 |
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LastInLine posted:except it cant do sms on the web unless you port your number to google voice. also you have to choose the protocol yourself it cant fail back to sms automatically. also now sms and hangouts will have two separate threads. also google will periodically tell you that maybe it should be two separate apps Using Android on non-Fi is not canon and unsupported. Legacy carriers are deprecated. Ticket closed.
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 01:11 |
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Smythe posted:Using Android on non-Fi is not canon and unsupported. Legacy carriers are deprecated. Ticket closed. im sorry my delicate sensitivities preclude me from using sprints haram frequencies
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 05:19 |
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LastInLine posted:except it cant do sms on the web unless you port your number to google voice. also you have to choose the protocol yourself it cant fail back to sms automatically. also now sms and hangouts will have two separate threads. also google will periodically tell you that maybe it should be two separate apps monkeys paw implementation is now my new phrase for bullshit code delivery and i know ill use it constantly
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 06:16 |
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LastInLine posted:im sorry my delicate sensitivities preclude me from using sprints haram frequencies I'm hooked up to tmob 100% of the time
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 06:23 |
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Illusive gently caress Man posted:i don't get googs messaging poo poo. gchat circa 2k6 was needs-suiting. it was nice at the time because I think you could use aim with it, which meant everyone could finally uninstall aim or trillian or whatever. linking aim completely borked my contact list which remains borked to this day- over a decade later software scars
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 06:25 |
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Progressive JPEG posted:but then how are you going to make promo if you're just reusing whats already been done?
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just let me use plain old gchat and plain old sms apps I don't give a poo poo about any of this other stuff or about integration between them
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