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HighwireAct posted:
Oh no, Denald Trump is making controvirsuel statamontos.
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az posted:comedy account The guys running the Reddit live feed really need to vet their sources
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Liberal_L33t posted:If he won those elections, he did so on a platform of theocracy no he didnt
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The gently caress is goign on on that street edit: people crawling around on the ground, ducking and running away screaming
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CNN live streaming a gun fight right now.
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It sounds like things might be starting to fall apart for the coup.
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Thug Lessons posted:Both CHP and MHP are condemning the coup. I don't think it can progress any more. Don't think their support or condemnation is really relevant, as if they survive the coup they'll quietly fall in and attempt to profit from the death of AKP.
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az posted:The gently caress is goign on on that street Seems to not be going the military's way. I imagine the next few NATO meetings will be awkward as hell.
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Thug Lessons posted:Both CHP and MHP are condemning the coup. I don't think it can progress any more. I don't know that the heads of parties have all that much sway here - they may be loyal to the democratic system but they don't have any power here unless their rank and file prefer Erdogan to a coup.
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Tanks firing near parliament
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HighwireAct posted:http://www.twitter.com/endeavoringE/status/754071471794819072 What is even happening anymore
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Please don't let this lead to a protracted insurgency/civil war. 
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Helicopter gunships firing in Ankara https://www.instagram.com/p/BH5eB5uBaZ9/?taken-by=bunyamincan_
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NTRabbit posted:Don't think their support or condemnation is really relevant, as if they survive the coup they'll quietly fall in and attempt to profit from the death of AKP. yeah, the heads of a political party need to maintain democratic cred so the statements alone don't mean much
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evilweasel posted:I don't know that the heads of parties have all that much sway here - they may be loyal to the democratic system but they don't have any power here unless their rank and file prefer Erdogan to a coup. The Turkish military likes to rewrite constitutions and hand power back to an elected government as quickly as they can. Non-cooperation from the big two opposition parties will be a stumbling block
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Pictures look more like people fraternizing with the soldiers to me. Erdogan tried to defang the military, but well, he hosed himself over by sending the military into multiple conflicts which made him rely on it. He also simultaneously messed up his relations with the Urban middle class and with the Kurds. His backing of ISIS also meant that he was no longer the most Islamist guy in town (which means that hardcore islamists dont actually support him," real and authentic Caliphate" is right over the border). Pentagon dislikes him for attacking the Kurds, Russia dislikes him for shooting down planes, EU dislikes them for trying to blackmail them with refugees. Oh yeah, Gulf Arabs now also dislike him for apologizing to Russia and starting a 180 degree turn in Syria. He even managed to piss of China by backing "Turkmen" (actually Uighur) insurgents in Syria who were seeing it as a training ground for Jihad in Xinjiang. Erdogan has zero friends, and way too many enemies. TLDR: Dont purge if you want to go to war soon. The only major powers he did not manage to totally piss are Japan, India and Brazil.
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Mightypeon posted:Pictures look more like people fraternizing with the soldiers to me.
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slavatuvs posted:Helicopter gunships firing in Ankara Holy poo poo
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Antti posted:
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There are gonna be a bunch of islamists who are very unhappy with a successful coup, and we all know how peaceful and calm they are. I'd be surprised if there was absolutely no fighting.
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kustomkarkommando posted:The Turkish military likes to rewrite constitutions and hand power back to an elected government as quickly as they can. Non-cooperation from the big two opposition parties will be a stumbling block Shaking their first into the camera as it happens is not the same as non-cooperation once it's done
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Mightypeon posted:Pictures look more like people fraternizing with the soldiers to me. the coup clearly show that comrade endrogan did not purge enough
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Jul 15, 2016 23:15
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Can you please link to those frontlines streams? CBS has pundits talking.
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cochise posted:CNN live streaming a gun fight right now. https://youtu.be/y60wDzZt8yg?t=3h54m56s
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cochise posted:Holy poo poo thats from ~90 minutes ago and was supposedly aimed at the intelligence building or the police hq ---definite gunfight going on right now
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Oh poo poo people really came to the street against the coup. It was pretty well organized but the media should ALWAYS be the first target of a coup nowadays. Always, you control the media you control the message.
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steinrokkan posted:Can you please link to those frontlines streams? CBS has pundits talking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBEmqvVPOX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
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Ikasuhito posted:It sounds like things might be starting to fall apart for the coup. Not quite yet, it is a coup that has fairly wide military support, it will only start to fall apart when that support starts to fail. Which could occur if is stops being a (mostly) bloodless coup and they're forced to start shooting protesters in the street after Edrogan's call. Edrogan's facetime, which the twitterati and hot take experts here roundly mocked is a clear and dangerous call for escalation and despite what people may choose to believe he does have a large amount of support in the country and, at the moment, despite twitter reports of him fleeing the country, it doesn't seem like he's planning on giving in yet.
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Karl Sharks posted:[in joementum voice]: you know who else was a democratically elected bad guy? George Bush?
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Thank youTei posted:CP ??? No, Erdogan is not a child, he's just pictured on a small screen.
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orange sky posted:Oh poo poo people really came to the street against the coup. It was pretty well organized but the media should ALWAYS be the first target of a coup nowadays. Always, you control the media you control the message.
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OAquinas posted:That's a fake account. ("Denald")Still, ouch. I still refuse to the believe @realDonaldTrump actually belongs to a person running for President of the Unites States. It's all parody to me.
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Thanks. That's better than Wolf Blitzer mumbling like an idiot
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NTRabbit posted:Shaking their first into the camera as it happens is not the same as non-cooperation once it's done The MHP have begun leaning into the Islamic nationalist side of their ideology with more confidence in recent years so I don't think they will be coming out to back the military if the move to remove some of the religious reforms the AKP pushed through
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Magical Zero posted:They did take the media, but Erdogan was using Arabic news channels. Oh, my bad. Resourceful that, do Turkish people usually watch those channels, are they national?
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So a successful military coup seems pretty bad. And a failed coup with Erdogan weathering the storm seems like it would be many times worse than the old Turkey of Erdogan we had four hours ago too. So this is great!
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Erdogan is not going to surrender or give up. Just not going to happen. Thats not how Erdogan rolls.
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cochise posted:Thanks. That's better than Wolf Blitzer mumbling like an idiot Well these people are mumbling on while you see a guy get killed.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:George Bush? hitler, it's always hitler
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