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Yvonmukluk posted:But the thing is I'm partisan for Spider-Girl, and not Spider-Man (although he is probably my favourite superhero), and she appears to be this thread's Red Hood. Nah, she's... the... I dunno... Azrael... no, that's Scarlet Spider... she's the... uh... ...she's boring and inoffensive. So Harper Row.
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Yvonmukluk posted:But the thing is I'm partisan for Spider-Girl, and not Spider-Man (although he is probably my favourite superhero), and she appears to be this thread's Red Hood. Spider-Girl isn't a multiple murderer, so we're good.
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I don't think Marvel is trying to sell May as hard as DC is shilling Jason, either. May is more like this vaguely-neglected continuity corner that nonetheless has some fans.
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Wanderer posted:I don't think Marvel is trying to sell May as hard as DC is shilling Jason, either. May is more like this vaguely-neglected continuity corner that nonetheless has some fans. Mayday is this thread's Squirrel Girl. Forgotten, raised only as a joke, unknown to most fans. But there's hope! Once a writer comes along who makes her an Avenger's go-to babysitter, Yvonmukluk will be deluged in books and be so happy.
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Jul 15, 2016 19:45
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Mayday is this thread's Squirrel Girl. A false flag operation to scuttle any further comedy or diversity-focused books? (I will never stop laughing that someone actually suggested that)
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I was happy with Mayday's status as it stood pre-Spider-Verse. She'd had a very good run of books (130+ issues in total, I think), and they'd set up a quite nice ending for her while still leaving the option for future stories to be told. And then Dan Slott came in and basically demolished most of the stuff that made her so good in the first place. I'd have been quite happy if there had never been another Spider-Girl book, honestly. It feels like they only really used Mayday out of obligation, because that's where Spider-Ben wound up. I mean, people were accusing Anya of 'replacing' Mayday as Spider-Girl back when she first got that name (which was unfair), and then in Web Warriors she's literally hanging out in Mayday's house with her baby brother and getting advice from Mayday's (recycled replacement) father figure, while Mayday is more-or-less out of the book entirely (honestly if it wasn't for the impending cancellation, they'd have almost certainly stretched out the resolution of Billy & Mayday's involuntary exile). And now she's going to be mostly forgotten, in favour of a character (that while, from what we saw of her was still good and I'm looking forward to Conway's take on her), is a character, created by the guy who ruined Spider-Girl that seems almost tailor made to supplant her role in the narrative. Now I doubt Dan Slott was cackling to himself as he systemically destroyed DeFalco's creation to make his own version look better in comparison, but there's always going to be that niggling doubt. If Spider-Girl hadn't been crapped on so much, I'd honestly probably have never really discussed her at all outside of the very occassional 'hey, anyone remember her?' post and I'd probably still be looking forward to RYV as another take on Peter & MJ with a kid. But instead I have to deal with the fact that one of my very favourite characters - the first comic I every read was a Spider-Girl comic - has been torn down and seems to be chronically mishandled. And like all 3rd-stringers, there's not really any way out of the death spiral - it's almost a certainty after Web Warriors she'll be marked as toxic and stuck in limbo. Except without the closure she'd been given before Spider-Verse. And I'm probably one of a miniscule and shrinking group of people who even knows who she is, let alone cares.
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Gaz-L posted:A false flag operation to scuttle any further comedy or diversity-focused books?
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They "Springtime for Hitler"-ed that book mark my angry, angry words.
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Am I an outlier for enjoying Spider-Verse? I've heard mostly negative things about it but I really enjoyed it. It was a really fun bit of fanservice bringing back all the weird old alternate spideys. It wasn't a particularly good story but it was fun and that's what matters to me.
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Xinder posted:Am I an outlier for enjoying Spider-Verse? I've heard mostly negative things about it but I really enjoyed it. It was a really fun bit of fanservice bringing back all the weird old alternate spideys. It wasn't a particularly good story but it was fun and that's what matters to me. I don't like seeing cool spider people exist for 2 frames then die.
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Cerepol posted:I don't like seeing cool spider people exist for 2 frames then die. That was dumb. But then you can just say that Franklin brought them all back to life at the end of Secret Wars.
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Codependent Poster posted:That was dumb. But then you can just say that Franklin brought them all back to life at the end of Secret Wars. Except Web Warriors is predicated on the fact that those dead Spider-Men are still dead.
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Xinder posted:Am I an outlier for enjoying Spider-Verse? I've heard mostly negative things about it but I really enjoyed it. It was a really fun bit of fanservice bringing back all the weird old alternate spideys. It wasn't a particularly good story but it was fun and that's what matters to me. Spider Verse was pretty awesome. People get all hung up on alternate Spider-Men getting killed instead of not being used at all for years.
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Not really seeing how dying violently is better than being quietly forgotten.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Except Web Warriors is predicated on the fact that those dead Spider-Men are still dead. Franklin brought them back happy and retired!
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Lurdiak posted:Not really seeing how dying violently is better than being quietly forgotten. But newspaper spider-man survived, and he was the most important.
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Lurdiak posted:Not really seeing how dying violently is better than being quietly forgotten. Yeah, this is pretty much what I've been trying to say for ages but failed to articulate properly. I mean, look at characters like Luke Cage & Squirrel Girl - they were quietly forgotten for years, and then writers who were really passionate about them decided to bring them back and look at them now. Bringing characters out of obscurity solely to die is I think a terrible idea. I think the only case where it really worked was Kraven's Last Hunt, and that's very much the exception that proved the rule, since it's almost as much Kraven's story as it is Peter & Mary Jane's. Codependent Poster posted:Franklin brought them back happy and retired!  Xinder posted:But newspaper spider-man survived, and he was the most important. Well of course he did, because he's still being written by Stan. Like how Miles did basically nothing at all (his own book didn't even tie in) because presumably Bendis is higher on the pecking order. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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Miles was in one of the best tie ins with the 60's cartoon Spider-Man. As controversial as the event was, most of the tie ins were drat good.
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Die Laughing posted:Miles was in one of the best tie ins with the 60's cartoon Spider-Man. As controversial as the event was, most of the tie ins were drat good. I'll agree with that. The tie-ins were more fun than the main story.
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Xinder posted:But newspaper spider-man survived, and he was the most important. You misspelled Spider-Ham.
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Jul 16, 2016 22:51
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He's up there, but not quite as great. 
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That would've been way better if Morlun just gave up on killing newspaper Spider-man out of sheer aggravation.
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Isn't that what happened?
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CharlestheHammer posted:Isn't that what happened? No, Weaver hid the universe to protect it.
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Hold on, I just made a connection I need to share with the rest of the class. Morlun and his family only feed on the "essence of animal totems" or whatever. One of the Vultures said that they get to eat the bodies after Morlun and his family are done with their "essence." So this means that they can't just feed on animals, right? But at the end of Spider-Verse they're trapped somewhere eating a bunch of spiders that just came out of the walls or something. So those can't be normal spiders, they have to be some form of totem. Which means The Thousand is in Spider-Verse. Never forget about The Thousand.
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Xinder posted:Hold on, I just made a connection I need to share with the rest of the class. You will get your no-prize in the mail shortly.
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Xinder posted:Hold on, I just made a connection I need to share with the rest of the class. I'm mad
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Skwirl posted:You will get your no-prize in the mail shortly. Any time I get to bring up The Thousand is truly its own reward.
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Xinder posted:Any time I get to bring up The Thousand is truly its own reward. It was a good story, I miss Spider-Man's Tangled Web.
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Xinder posted:Hold on, I just made a connection I need to share with the rest of the class. They could feed on animals, but they probably don't have that special energy that humans have when bonded with the animal.
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Xinder posted:Hold on, I just made a connection I need to share with the rest of the class. Alternatively: they're all going to starve to death because those spiders are radioactive and because they do actually need to eat other totems too (which they can't do in the bunker).
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Skwirl posted:It was a good story, I miss Spider-Man's Tangled Web. It was a cool idea that died too young. Putting a bunch of no-names and the occasional big name that has never touched a certain character in charge of them for a short arc is something I'd love to see come back. Die Laughing posted:They could feed on animals, but they probably don't have that special energy that humans have when bonded with the animal. Yvonmukluk posted:Alternatively: they're all going to starve to death because those spiders are radioactive and because they do actually need to eat other totems too (which they can't do in the bunker). I started to think about this to make a rebuttal but then I realized I don't care enough. That was just a really long-winded excuse to talk about The Thousand.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7D-67xqwYE
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I don't know if anyone else is playing Spider-Man Unlimited, but they're currently doing an mini event based on Dying Wish/Superior Spider-Man. And the description of the current part (based around when Otto was trying to get with MJ) really has to be seen to be believed. Whoever is writing it apparently wasn't a fan of the original story.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I don't know if anyone else is playing Spider-Man Unlimited, but they're currently doing an mini event based on Dying Wish/Superior Spider-Man. And the description of the current part (based around when Otto was trying to get with MJ) really has to be seen to be believed. Whoever is writing it apparently wasn't a fan of the original story. Can you post a screenshot or something?
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I play this game way more than I ever thought I would. Here's the screenshot you're asking for
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That is pretty accurate description.
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The whole storyline is gross as gently caress.
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whiny fanboy editorializing: not just for the internet anymore!
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In more positive news, Ryan Stegman has been posting art from Renew Your Vows on his Twitter and it is adorable. 
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