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Kild posted:Aizen is basically Kaguya. You had the established big bad Byakuya and then suddenly its Aizen that did everything wtf?
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Yeah in retrospect all of Bleach was really just Aizen breaking his glasses and slicking his hair back. That's why we're all here.
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Jul 16, 2016 10:44
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Looking back the Ishida vs Hashbrowns "duel", you know you've hosed up your shounen fighting manga if the first couple Final Fantasy games curbstomp you in terms of fight choreography. And call me crazy, but I think Orihime might finally get her 15 panels of fame. If anyone can bring this mess to an early end, it's Deux Ex Boobies. SyntheticPolygon posted:People always say the villains of Bleach "troll" or whatever. But actually they're not trolling and are just bad and boring. If your power is "I can do whatever because I said so", then you are a troll. Serious Frolicking posted:there is nothing wrong with a bunch of sword dudes fighting a bunch of bow dudes in theory. in practice, bows were completely identical to swords because there is no sense of distance or space in kubo's fights. Bows are so last story arc. Though it would've been need to have a Sternritter that was just a ridiculously powerful bow user, who parried enemy swords by shooting them at point-blank range or something.
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Jul 16, 2016 13:03
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in a better work, ywach's enormous amount of poo poo-talking and contradictory bragging would be how he masks the weaknesses in his ability. he would just keep lying again and again, adding or changing details each time in order to keep his opponents from figuring out how to beat him. in bleach, ywach contradicts himself because kubo doesn't really know or care how his power is supposed to work. he just likes making chapters where people make big dramatic declarations which shock ichigo.
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Jul 16, 2016 15:03
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The world is begging for a shounen parody whose villain trolls people by making stuff up about how is powers are supposed to work. A bit like how Urahara trolled Ichigo during his training session, except even more dickish.
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Jul 16, 2016 15:40
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You're just making me miss Gin.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:02
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Sue posted:You're just making me miss Gin. Don't worry. We are all carrying this hole in our hearts.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:12
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gin was spared the current stupidity. if he had survived he would have just ended up fighting g "the goatse" who consumed enemies with his distended anus.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:14
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Serious Frolicking posted:gin was spared the current stupidity. if he had survived he would have just ended up fighting g "the goatse" who consumed enemies with his distended anus. But enough about your fetishes.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:29
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I'd like to talk a bit about my fetishes. My fetish is a well-planned out shounen manga with little to no plot stupidity and great fights. And before you tell me about HxH, my fetish is also having no year-long hiatuses.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:36
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tht was my favorite thing about bleach. all the powers are exactly the same but theyre all beewildered by the the literally nonexistent differences. ichigo shoots beams for ages then does a "cero" and theyre like...nooo that can't be cero what the helll..
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Jul 16, 2016 16:48
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I think Tom Hiddleston would make a great Aizen
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Jul 16, 2016 16:52
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I miss the days when I thought Inuyasha went on too long. But it lasted less than 560 chapters and the main villain remained the main villain until the end. Oh well, I guess I shall suffer the sunk cost fallacy of Bleach until the end.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:59
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I'd like to talk a bit about my fetishes. Try My Hero Academia, maybe?
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Jul 16, 2016 17:10
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I'd like to talk a bit about my fetishes. Catgirls. Catgirls all the way. (And no, Bleach doesn't count because the only catgirl instance is an electric Darkstalkers ripoff) Doresh fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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Jul 16, 2016 17:21
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kirk johnson is a cultural icon and there is nothing sexual about admiring his (gaping red) legacy
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Jul 16, 2016 17:23
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I'd like to talk a bit about my fetishes. hero academia
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Jul 16, 2016 18:27
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Jesse James posted:Man. I remember when bleach was great. Remember pluses? Cause I do. A plus is a soul that exists in the real world. That was cool. Remember the Espada and how they were basically the an thesis of the real world and soul society and their numbers counted down to the most powerful? I thought that was cool too. Remember when butterfliazen, I'm sorry; Tite Kubo completely ran his narrative into the ground?? I was there for "Decide."
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Jul 16, 2016 18:46
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I'd like to talk a bit about my fetishes. Wakfu Those hiatuses only last like several months
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Jul 16, 2016 19:10
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Pierson posted:I remember really liking it decades, nay, eras ago. At what point does it go to poo poo, basically the second Aizen dies? Thinking of doing re-reads of Naruto and Bleach up to the moment they plunged into the abyss and no further. I think it technically dooms itself the moment Byakuya and Renji show their ugly mugs.
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Jul 16, 2016 20:14
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Pierson posted:I remember really liking it decades, nay, eras ago. At what point does it go to poo poo, basically the second Aizen dies? Thinking of doing re-reads of Naruto and Bleach up to the moment they plunged into the abyss and no further. Well, at the very least you'll only have to read about 20 chapters of Naruto.
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Jul 16, 2016 20:28
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chumbler posted:Bleach is really just an allegory about racism. Except the Germans.
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Jul 16, 2016 23:17
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I'd like to talk a bit about my fetishes. Ah yes. Haikyuu is pretty good. I agree. Edit: Pierson posted:I remember really liking it decades, nay, eras ago. At what point does it go to poo poo, basically the second Aizen dies? Thinking of doing re-reads of Naruto and Bleach up to the moment they plunged into the abyss and no further. A couple of years before Aizen died honestly. At the time him dying was a relief and created the hope that maybe the manga could get better. Which unfortunately didn't happen.
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Jul 16, 2016 23:27
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SyntheticPolygon posted:A couple of years before Aizen died honestly. At the time him dying was a relief and created the hope that maybe the manga could get better. Which unfortunately didn't happen. How could Aizen dying create hope the manga would get better when it was supposed to be over at that point? There's no way anything after Aizen losing could be better than deicide. Maybe some closure, but two more drawn out arcs could never be good. We knew what we were getting into.
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Jul 17, 2016 01:58
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deicide was very bad, but it isn't completely impossible to think that kubo might turn it around afterward. sometimes writers do improve, you know. i mean he obviously did not, and the manga just got worse and worse until we got ultimate handwaving powers.
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Jul 17, 2016 02:06
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Voted Worst Mom posted:How could Aizen dying create hope the manga would get better when it was supposed to be over at that point? There's no way anything after Aizen losing could be better than deicide. Maybe some closure, but two more drawn out arcs could never be good. We knew what we were getting into. Actually, no. We didn't. Aizen's arc ended with him shouting some ominent poo poo about the Soul King. I was totally expecting the final arc to be about the Soul King and Soul Society being the true Bigger Bads, and for a brief moment during the Fullbringer arc it looked like we were heading down that direction. But no, Kubo would never do that to Soul Society. It's where his beloved Byakuya, Toshiro and Kenchan live. Instead we got loving Quincies out of nowhere. And even for a while it looked as if Kubo was doing his best to improve by having fights with consequences. But then Byakuya got better after what were clearly his parting words, and only Captain Genocide died, who by the point of the Fake Karakura + Deicide arc had descended into whiny bitch territory completely washing out any sense of badass leftover from his Soul Society arc days that nobody cared that he died. lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jul 17, 2016 |
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Jul 17, 2016 02:10
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If the final arc had been about hell instead of the quincies and was not different in any way, it would be bad but still significantly better than what we got. It would also give a fair bit more motivation for the arrancar to team up with the shinigami. The gate to hell is totally going to appear and start opening in the final chapter, and we will not be free but enslaved to Bleach 2 because this isn't cancellation, it's the editors telling Kubo to hurry things the gently caress up.
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Jul 17, 2016 02:13
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chumbler posted:
As masochist as it may sound, I am all up for it. Just have somebody else write it while Kubo supervises (and immediately ignore Kubo's suggestions). There have been a lot of mangas that were later picked up by another writer who used the lore and concept in much better ways resulting in a product better than the original. Off the top of my head, you have Saint Seiya Lost Canvas. Of course, on the other side of the chart you have Soul Eater NOT!, but what's life without a gamble?
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Jul 17, 2016 02:23
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I kinda stopped following Soul Eater NOT! but it seemed fine from what I saw. Certainly couldn't have had a worse ending than Soul Eater's wet fart. And yeah, I will shamefully admit that I wouldn't mind shinigami and arrancar vs hell, provided it had competent writing and pacing. Kubo can still do good art and character design (Aizen-face aside), he's just awful at everything else.
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Jul 17, 2016 02:27
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chumbler posted:If the final arc had been about hell instead of the quincies and was not different in any way, it would be bad but still significantly better than what we got. It would also give a fair bit more motivation for the arrancar to team up with the shinigami. If this arc was literally exactly the same except with villains from hell instead of Quincys it would still be just as bad. Because the fact that the villains are Quincies is not one of the bad parts about this arc. Just changing the name of the villains and their origin story wouldn't make anything better if it's still written as badly.
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Jul 17, 2016 02:35
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They should've been Quincies that escaped from Hell instead of being a ton of Quincies that escaped the genocide by hiding in Soul Society's shadow or whatever.
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Jul 17, 2016 02:43
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I kind of liked the Deicide arc. I was mostly entertained, at least. Series should have ended with Aizen's defeat, though.
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Jul 17, 2016 03:26
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i'm still not entirely clear on if the quincies are quincy ghosts or living humans.
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Jul 17, 2016 03:32
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do you think kubo feels remorse
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Jul 17, 2016 03:37
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It's gonna be so funny when Bleach doesn't actually end with this next volume.
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Jul 17, 2016 04:43
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:It's gonna be so funny when Bleach doesn't actually end with this next volume. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-13/shonen-jump-sasaki-bleach-manga-will-end-in-less-than-10-weeks/.104273 Hisashi Sasaki, Vice President for Global Shonen Jump posted:Tite Kubo will end his Bleach manga in less than 10 weeks. Volume 74 will be the final one.
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Jul 17, 2016 04:51
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b..but a guy on reddit said it wasn't ending!
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Jul 17, 2016 04:58
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If it isn't ending, it sure as hell is looking like it is as it has briskly closed like 3 plot threads in one or so issues when it normally would do that in 34 issues.
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Jul 17, 2016 05:00
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If bleach wasn't ending this would have been a double page spread
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Aizen getting up from his chair would have been 4 pages long and various close up shots of his butt rising up.
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