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One Legged Cat posted:Hoo boy, looks like the most recent cop shooter was a sovcit. This should get interesting. He was black though which is what most people will actually take away from this.
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One Legged Cat posted:Hoo boy, looks like the most recent cop shooter was a sovcit. This should get interesting. Doesn't matter. He was a member of Nation of Islam. That makes him ISIS in their minds and they can reason it away. Yes... I know...
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Casimir Radon posted:Basically. He likes to invoke his status as a "STAFF SERGEANT OF MARINES!!1", in reality he was gas pumper. It's amazing how much the 3%ers like to hype up even the most deskjobby military service My brother did serve in active combat duty for a few months, but the overwhelming majority of his military service was as a quartermaster, gassing up humvees and issuing uniforms. The way he talks about it you would think he was in loving delta force, lol
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He was also a member of the "Hoteps" which are from my limited understanding this bizarre misogynistic black group that has these weird ideas about being ancient Egyptian Pharaohs or something and decorate everything with Egyptian imagery Guy was an onion of increasingly bizarre ideologies
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Also don't take this the wrong way, I don't condone or support anything these two murderers did, but they've done a better job openly rebelling against the US government by themselves than the entire III%'er movement. I wonder if the nuance of this actually registers with any of the bundy clan or their fanboys, that some black guys are doing a better job at inciting Civil War 2 than they ever have. I know it doesn't but it's fun to think about!
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It would be a strange and terrible irony if the general public finally becomes aware of Sovereign Citizens but thinks of it as a black movement.
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Casimir Radon posted:Basically. He likes to invoke his status as a "STAFF SERGEANT OF MARINES!!1", in reality he was gas pumper. It's also important to note that the intelligence test bare minimum score requirement is lower for 'bulk fuel specialists' than for the infantry grunt. Back in my day it was 35 on the ASVAB for infantry, 30 for fuel, waiverable up from 25. If you can tie your shoes consistently, you can score a 35. Keep in mind also that these test books have dumb as gently caress multiple choice questions, and usually have the correct answer circled already by a previous test taker, or more likely the recruiter trying to meet his quota. IIRC in the heat of the surge they could waiver you up from 20 to get warm bodies into uniform.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:It would be a strange and terrible irony if the general public finally becomes aware of Sovereign Citizens but thinks of it as a black movement. I doubt it. Then you would have to explain why Cliven Bundy and his loser sons are sitting in jail after a horribly failed takeover while two incidences of black shooters has racked a bodycount. Which is downright ghoulish, but it does make white sovcits look like even bigger losers. Not saying that rightwingers won't do it, but it'll be funny to see them justify how inferior they are to black people, which will make their blood pressure skyrocket.
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The closest Ammon ever came to actually fighting the feds was crashing an ATV into a truck and chucking rocks at BLM employees. Some of that might have been Pete Santilli, though.
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Hey now, let's be fair there are a number of examples of white Sovcits that have killed cops.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Hey now, let's be fair there are a number of examples of white Sovcits that have killed cops. There are, but how many have gotten the press coverage like the guy in Baton Rouge is getting?
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iospace posted:There are, but how many have gotten the press coverage like the guy in Baton Rouge is getting? It's another example of True Americans getting oppressed by Affirmative Action! 
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http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-ryan-bundy-alleged-jail-escape-foiled/quote:Bundy denied that he had any plans to escape the jail, calling himself “a rancher trying to practice braiding rope.”
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ansel autisms posted:http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-ryan-bundy-alleged-jail-escape-foiled/ What an idiot. Even if they bought his excuse, isn't it against the rules to tear up your sheets?
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ansel autisms posted:http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-ryan-bundy-alleged-jail-escape-foiled/
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iospace posted:There are, but how many have gotten the press coverage like the guy in Baton Rouge is getting? Not that I am saying that this is a contest, but this guy was in the news for quite a while. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frein
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Facebook Aunt posted:What an idiot. Even if they bought his excuse, isn't it against the rules to tear up your sheets? I get the feeling they didn't charge him because this is such a stupid plan. Plus, how the gently caress is he going to disappear? He's kinda recognizable from having his face in the papers for the incident. He's really going to snap once sentencing is handed down.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I get the feeling they didn't charge him because this is such a stupid plan. Plus, how the gently caress is he going to disappear? He's kinda recognizable from having his face in the papers for the incident.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I doubt it. Then you would have to explain why Cliven Bundy and his loser sons are sitting in jail after a horribly failed takeover while two incidences of black shooters has racked a bodycount. Which is downright ghoulish, but it does make white sovcits look like even bigger losers. If Trump and Benghazi "investigations" have shown us anything, it's that right wingers have no shame when the possibility of harming an enemy comes up.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I get the feeling they didn't charge him because this is such a stupid plan. Plus, how the gently caress is he going to disappear? He's kinda recognizable from having his face in the papers for the incident. If I hadn't read the stuff about the hidden food and clothes, I would have assumed he was making a rope to hang himself with. It's going to be an awfully cold night now in the Multnomah County Jail.
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Young Freud posted:If I hadn't read the stuff about the hidden food and clothes, I would have assumed he was making a rope to hang himself with. I was enjoying thinking he was just desperate to manufacture the equipment he needed for some autoerotic asphyxiation.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:He's kinda recognizable from having his face... Fixed.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Not that I am saying that this is a contest, but this guy was in the news for quite a while. Huh, never heard of him. Then again, that was sort of when I didn't really care about the news for a while. Now I sort of follow it.
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ansel autisms posted:http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-ryan-bundy-alleged-jail-escape-foiled/ I love the bizarre world he comes from where claiming to be a rancher is supposed to put him atop a hierarchical pyramid where we all ooooh and ahhhh at this pillar of society. It's like the whitetrash Mormon 'job creator'. Are you trying to escape? With a bedsheets rope like it's home alone in here? You don't get it. I'm a. Rancher. The infamous call where the representative totally wasn't trying to get info from the judge she called him a rancher and the judge said, "bullshit he's a used truck salesman who grew up on a ranch and loves telling people he's a rancher for status."
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Bombadilillo posted:I love the bizarre world he comes from where claiming to be a rancher is supposed to put him atop a hierarchical pyramid where we all ooooh and ahhhh at this pillar of society. It's like the whitetrash Mormon 'job creator'. I mean I guess it's impressive if you're a weirdo southerner who grew up fetishizing cowboys or whatever, and if you are one you're probably oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world doesn't exactly see them as the manly god-idols you do
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Reminder that the Bundy idea of ranching is a bunch of emaciated semi-feral cows wondering around other people's property.
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The real irony is that on actual functional ranches the huge majority of the actual work gets done by Hispanic laborers.
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Haystack posted:The real irony is that on actual functional ranches the huge majority of the actual work gets done by Hispanic laborers. Or in LaVoy Finicum's case, by foster children.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Or in LaVoy "Quick Draw" Finicum's case, by foster children.
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Bombadilillo posted:I love the bizarre world he comes from where claiming to be a rancher is supposed to put him atop a hierarchical pyramid where we all ooooh and ahhhh at this pillar of society. It's like the whitetrash Mormon 'job creator'. It makes him sound like some kind of square-jawed pulp serial action hero. Like, the jailers would just be all "Well, that is a known rancher tradition, I guess you can go ahead with it." and then he'd pull the window bars out of the crumbling mortar, escape out the window in the middle of the night, and head into the depths of the jungle, where he'd hollow out a fallen tree to make a kayak, and pole himself upriver. There, he would rescue a beautiful (white) woman from being sacrificed at an ancient temple by a bunch of savage (black, possibly mesoamerican) natives. He'd also fight off their god (who would probably be a giant snake or something) using rancher ingenuity. poo poo, I want to read some Doc Savage now.
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The Lord of Hats posted:It makes him sound like some kind of square-jawed pulp serial action hero. Like, the jailers would just be all "Well, that is a known rancher tradition, I guess you can go ahead with it." and then he'd pull the window bars out of the crumbling mortar, escape out the window in the middle of the night, and head into the depths of the jungle, where he'd hollow out a fallen tree to make a kayak, and pole himself upriver. There, he would rescue a beautiful (white) woman from being sacrificed at an ancient temple by a bunch of savage (black, possibly mesoamerican) natives. He'd also fight off their god (who would probably be a giant snake or something) using rancher ingenuity.
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Casimir Radon posted:He's more of a Dick Tracy villain. Well yes, but I was going for how he thinks of himself. No self-respecting Dick Tracy villain would be caught dead, braiding a rancher rope, anyways. If you aren't good enough to not get caught escaping prison, you're not good enough to fight Dick Tracy.
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They're prisoners of war, so they're allowed to try and escape and no one can hold it against them because something something patriots.
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They should have let him make the rope so maybe he could hang himself. Of course these dum dums are conflating political prisoners and prisoners of war. And of course these non-com's, draft dodgers and cowards feel they need to abide by a military code of conduct. Of course they ignore the earlier parts of that code. Code of Conduct for Members of the United States Armed Forces posted:I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense. I am all for shipping the Bundy crew off to Guantanamo or ideally Kazakhstan black sites if possible.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I mean I guess it's impressive if you're a weirdo southerner who grew up fetishizing cowboys or whatever, and if you are one you're probably oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world doesn't exactly see them as the manly god-idols you do the actual historical cowboys were mostly black and hispanic, of course
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red19fire posted:I am all for shipping the Bundy crew off to Guantanamo or ideally Kazakhstan black sites if possible. I'd love to hear their thoughts on such things before they landed themselves in legal trouble. I guess it's possible they're actual principled strict constitutionalists but I just can't bring myself to actually believe they have an issue with rights being infringed upon when the victims aren't white conservative gun-toting christian/mormon fundamentalists.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:It would be a strange and terrible irony if the general public finally becomes aware of Sovereign Citizens but thinks of it as a black movement. Not when Terry Nichols and Tim McVeigh existed already
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