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Y-Hat posted:here's a controversial idea: hire an American actress to play an American comic book villain, instead of importing one from Australia Yeah, that dead gay cowboy should have died earlier to save us all from an Australian joker. Heh, what a joke. Maybe American should try being better actors, lol. Same with low-paid workers, I guess.
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quoting for the new page:Blurry Gray Thing posted:Retelling the same stories over and over but changing it slightly to fit the times and catch the interest of the audience is pretty much the oldest form of storytelling and not a modern Hollywood invention. It's hard to get angry about remakes and Hollywood's output in general over the last decade or so, because so much of it is middling, mediocre crap. When you're almost certain to make a lot of money off of a movie, there isn't much of a motive to make it good and memorable. get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 00:19
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:Retelling the same stories over and over but changing it slightly to fit the times and catch the interest of the audience is pretty much the oldest form of storytelling and not a modern Hollywood invention. Doesn't seem to be working though, does it? The great filmmakers have their own stories they want to tell, so we end up with remakes from the mediocre. We get poo poo like this, The Thing, Total Recall, etc that not only fail to add anything worthwhile but miss what made the original loved in the first place.
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Jul 19, 2016 00:21
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Maybe each time period could create new works that reflect that time period instead of transplanting movies that are very much products of their time into a new time period and loving it up.
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Jul 19, 2016 00:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEKreyTkvA they hated it.
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Jul 19, 2016 00:31
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Germstore posted:Maybe each time period could create new works that reflect that time period instead of transplanting movies that are very much products of their time into a new time period and loving it up.
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Jul 19, 2016 00:34
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Sunswipe posted:Doesn't seem to be working though, does it? The great filmmakers have their own stories they want to tell, so we end up with remakes from the mediocre. We get poo poo like this, The Thing, Total Recall, etc that not only fail to add anything worthwhile but miss what made the original loved in the first place. also i completely forgot that The Thing was remade. was it PG-13 like the Total Recall reboot? gotta love watering down a movie's content so it can make the most money possible, meaning that an R rating is as enviable as an NC-17
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Jul 19, 2016 00:43
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Ghostbusters getting banned in China had me wondering: Why do most studios care about the Chinese market? Is just the fact more people seeing your movie equals more money, even though they only allow a handful of non-Chinese films in their theaters every year?
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Jul 19, 2016 00:47
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Y-Hat posted:not to mention the great filmmakers are mostly old and i can't think of any young up-and-coming directors that are vying to take their place. all we've got are directors who pigeonhole themselves into certain movies like Paul Feig and Michael Bay, or directors who are profoundly unspectacular as the guy who calls himself McG we're probably gonna see a shitload more r-rated flicks coming down the road because deadpool made a fuckload of money and retarded studio execs thinking the rating was the reason
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Jul 19, 2016 00:55
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Y-Hat posted:not to mention the great filmmakers are mostly old and i can't think of any young up-and-coming directors that are vying to take their place. all we've got are directors who pigeonhole themselves into certain movies like Paul Feig and Michael Bay, or directors who are profoundly unspectacular as the guy who calls himself McG the thing remake/prequel was actualy alright. and it was hard R.
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Jul 19, 2016 00:57
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Why do most studios care about the Chinese market? Is just the fact more people seeing your movie equals more money, even though they only allow a handful of non-Chinese films in their theaters every year? americans aren't seeing movies anymore while china is spending more on them every year so you gotta be stupid not to try to put your foot in their growing market
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Jul 19, 2016 01:00
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Ghostbusters getting banned in China had me wondering: There are a couple dozen non-Chinese films shown per year in China. There's also a couple dozen Hollywood movies with budgets over 100 million per year. Not a coincidence.
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Jul 19, 2016 01:01
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Now this is just cruelty to the elderly
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Jul 19, 2016 01:02
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The Grimace posted:If the movie didn't have the "Ghostbusters" moniker, there wouldn't be anywhere near as much drama from the PR fallout as there was, but it also would not appeal to a larger audience consisting of existing Ghostbuster fans either. It's an interesting prospect, but I don't think it's easy to gauge how well the movie would have done otherwise. Also if the movie didn't have the "Ghostbusters" moniker it wouldn't have been greenlit with a $170 million production budget (which later got cut back), or given a $100m+ promotional budget, or opened nationally on approx 4000 screens. Sony really threw a lot behind it. It's Sony's most expensive film for 2016 and even after all this it'll probably end up being their biggest grossing film for the year - their biggest box office draw for 2016 so far has been Angry Birds which brought in $106m in the US and GB2016 should pass that, but even then there's a good chance that Angry Birds will have a bigger worldwide gross. So yeah, it's hasn't been a great year for Sony and it's no wonder they're trying to put a positive spin on GB2016 and telling everyone they're happy with how it turned out. "N-no, it's great, we love it. We truly truly love it. We didn't get hosed in the rear end at all, just ignore all that blood streaming from our anus. That's liquid joy! We're making GBS threads liquid joy, that's how happy we are with the recent turn of events! We're just so happy!"
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Jul 19, 2016 01:25
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Can't wait for Sony Pictures to become purely a holding company for the Spider-man rights.
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Jul 19, 2016 01:28
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How much did CineD actually buy that bullshit PR spin from Sony? Are some people there laughing at least?
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Jul 19, 2016 01:33
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somebody else said that Angry Birds made over $300 million worldwide. i highly doubt that the new ghostbusters will make that much
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Jul 19, 2016 01:33
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Y-Hat posted:somebody else said that Angry Birds made over $300 million worldwide. i highly doubt that the new ghostbusters will make that much It already opened in 2/3 of the big markets in the foreign market and next week is going to be a tough one for a film already deflating, so no. It's not even going to make 144 million worldwide
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Jul 19, 2016 01:36
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Y-Hat posted:this is why i'm glad that the proposed Slap Shot remakes have never gotten off the ground. one of the reasons for why it's my favorite movie ever is because it's one of the best time capsules of the late 1970s rust belt another reason slap shot is so good and also won't likely be remade is because it is the total opposite of basically every sports movie: the protagonist is a sleazy conman, theres no uplifting message, nobody learns a valuable lesson about teamwork, and the chiefs only win at the end because the other side inadvertently forfeits. also the scene where paul newman tells a mother that her child is going to grow up to be a fag probably would not be well-received today
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Jul 19, 2016 01:42
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NutritiousSnack posted:It already opened in 2/3 of the big markets in the foreign market and next week is going to be a tough one for a film already deflating, so no. It's not even going to make 144 million worldwide CineD must be leaking to this thread. The deniers are coming out of the woodwork. 
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NutritiousSnack posted:It already opened in 2/3 of the big markets in the foreign market and next week is going to be a tough one for a film already deflating, so no. It's not even going to make 144 million worldwide Eh, various industry sites have been going on and on about how Paul Feig's movies have an average multiplier of 4.778 so if his past results are any indicator it'll pass $200m domestically but on the other hand no one can see it having the box office legs that Bridesmaids did, plus it may have shot it's wad in its first weekend with people just turning up out of curiosity. We won't really be able to tell how well it'll do until we see the numbers for next weekend which will tell us whether it can hold onto an audience or whether they're gonna drop it like a hot turd.
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Jul 19, 2016 01:50
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It can't be that hard to have a high multiplier on low budgets and good word of mouth. This doesn't have either.
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Jul 19, 2016 02:01
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It dropped from Friday to Saturday so I don't see it having the longevity of his other films.
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client posted:another reason slap shot is so good and also won't likely be remade is because it is the total opposite of basically every sports movie: the protagonist is a sleazy conman, theres no uplifting message, nobody learns a valuable lesson about teamwork, and the chiefs only win at the end because the other side inadvertently forfeits. any remake of Slap Shot would never work because in all likelihood it wouldn't have as good of a writer as Nancy Dowd, who had first-hand knowledge of '70s lower-league hockey (her brother pretty much was Ned Braden) plus you know they'd cast some English pig with no brains at all as Ned/the Hansons/poo poo, even Denis
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Eh, various industry sites have been going on and on about how Paul Feig's movies have an average multiplier of 4.778 so if his past results are any indicator it'll pass $200m domestically His other films have been released during very weak movie months. (the Hollywoodreporter goes over this). This has to compete with Beyond, a strong animated feature franchise, and a horror film that has some buzz.
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Jul 19, 2016 02:35
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the RLM half in the bag review does raise an interesting point about sony being pathetically determined to have a franchise and their perchant for stuffing movies with overt product placement
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Related: http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/18/technology/yahoo-q2-earnings-tumblr/index.html No guys seriously, there is great potential in catering to this base of people!
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NutritiousSnack posted:How much did CineD actually buy that bullshit PR spin from Sony? Are some people there laughing at least? Yeah the reaction in CineD has been "Sony hosed up"
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Jul 19, 2016 04:10
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Pitch Perfect 2's opening weekend beat Ghost Busters' by $23 million pffaahahaha
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Ghostbusters getting banned in China had me wondering: Hey guys, why would people want to sell to a market of billions of customers? Am confused, send help.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Hey guys, why would people want to sell to a market of billions of customers? Am confused, send help. I had the same thoughts. It's high school economics.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Why do most studios care about the Chinese market? There's a general trend of less Americans going to see films every year, so expect to see a lot more of this: 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3szgwthkcIs Apparently after marketing and splitting the ticket sales with movie theaters Ghostbusters 2016 needs to gross between 300-400 million worldwide to break even. Good luck with that without the Chinese market. lol
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:There's a general trend of less Americans going to see films every year, so expect to see a lot more of this: also the chinese have no taste so hollywood can shovel poo poo onto them and make money
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Why even make films for the US any longer though? They're just wasting a big chunk of what they might make in the US on advertising and distribution and poo poo. Hollywood should just treat the US like the third income stream after China and India we are and only release the movies they make to the states after the big customers have had their taste. I'd be down for seeing some actual US indie poo poo in theaters near me. The quirky, intimate, indie theater downtown doesn't count because they only have like 50 seats for a showing. The current crop of movies these last few years, this year especially, is making me really question my lifelong passion for cinema. Sure, neat little films still get made, but when do I just do myself a favor and cut off the giant tumor that is modern mainstream movies by just not watching anything? It's not worth clawing through poo poo to find gems any longer because they've weaponized the poo poo.
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Uncle Wemus posted:also the chinese have no taste so hollywood can shovel poo poo onto them and make money Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't China had Hollywood films banned for an incredibly long time and just recently started to let them in? I think part of the reason it's doing so well is that it's new and unique.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Why even make films for the US any longer though? They're just wasting a big chunk of what they might make in the US on advertising and distribution and poo poo. The US is only allowed to import something like 34 movies in total per year to China and India has it's own movie industry.
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Jul 19, 2016 05:12
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We should import more Naliwood movies imo
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I think that and there's a limit on how many foreign made movies are allowed into Chinese theaters each year. Since American movies are probably going to be higher quality than ones made in China most Chinese movie-goers will really have few good options. And most Chinese moviegoers aren't very weathy or educated and haven't been watching movies that don't suck rear end since they was 10 like most of us have so yeah, I'd bet their tastes are not quite as developed as ours are.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Why even make films for the US any longer though? They're just wasting a big chunk of what they might make in the US on advertising and distribution and poo poo. They're starting to go that way already, which is why that recent Transformers film suddenly shifted all the action to China for the second half of the film and why a bunch of other recent films have been co-produced by Chinese backers. G-Mach posted:The US is only allowed to import something like 34 movies in total per year to China and India has it's own movie industry. China only allowed 34 foreign films in total every year and they'll occasionally bring in something from non-US countries. Apparently they'll be slightly increasing that number soon.
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