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Renoistic posted:ARISE completely lost me after the episode where the military guy who was on trouble for slaughtering civilians turned out to be innocent because the civilians were actually all out to kill him, including the child. OORAH Are you sure you don't mean, jihad?
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Young Freud posted:Yeah, that's the one. Ripped right off from the Tommy Lee Jones-Samuel L. Jackson movie Rules Of Engagement. That's exactly what I thought off when I watched the episode. I don't think I've ever been more pissed off at a Hollywood movie.
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what the heck are y'all talking about, the movie sucks and is incredibly boring philosophy-babble with some nice animation. the TV show is actually goodK. Waste posted:The problem is twofold: *writes essay about how technological collectivism is baked into the essential nipponese spirit*
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icantfindaname posted:*writes essay about how technological collectivism is baked into the essential nipponese spirit* I actually said nothing about "nipponese spirit," racist crackpot - I was explicitly making a critique of capitalism.
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icantfindaname posted:what the heck are y'all talking about, the movie sucks and is incredibly boring philosophy-babble with some nice animation. the TV show is actually good There's not many mainstream futuristic movies that pose these questions and even fewer that do so elegantly. Compared to GitS, the Matrix is a little kids movie. Same Blade Runner. Ghost compresses a novel's worth of content into a ninety minute movie.
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icantfindaname posted:what the heck are y'all talking about, the movie sucks and is incredibly boring philosophy-babble with some nice animation. the TV show is actually good imo it's the music. the movie has one of the best soundtracks of all time and the music provides all the emotion the screenplay is missing and then some phasmid posted:"what is reality?" "what is identity?" "is the creation of life spontaneous?" "how do you even define 'life'?" 
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icantfindaname posted:what the heck are y'all talking about, the movie sucks and is incredibly boring philosophy-babble with some nice animation. the TV show is actually good I rewatched the show recently and the Laughing Man stuff is just an excuse to put in a bunch of vaguely philosophical book quotes wrapped around some technobabble. There are also a loooooot of bad filler episodes. The movie is consistently strong and much shorter than the TV series.
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Nice rebuttal to every philosopher since the stone age. Omg the stoned age lol. Dweeb.
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icantfindaname posted:what the heck are y'all talking about, the movie sucks and is incredibly boring philosophy-babble with some nice animation. the TV show is actually good
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phasmid posted:Nice rebuttal to every philosopher since the stone age. Omg the stoned age lol. Dweeb. the thing is, it's not like those questions aren't worth asking but boiling them down to a forums post--or even a 90-minute movie--just makes them sound like college-dorm bullshit. to wit: quote:Major Motoko Kusanagi: I mean, have you ever actually seen your brain? not that i mind college-dorm bullshit, but to claim you're getting the same treatment of these ideas from a movie (that also has to leave room for invisibility-cloak shenanigans and tank battles) that you would from a book is a little bit silly
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How can our eyes be real when mirrors aren't real?
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Clipperton posted:the thing is, it's not like those questions aren't worth asking but boiling them down to a forums post--or even a 90-minute movie--just makes them sound like college-dorm bullshit. to wit: She's attached via some kind of wifi to all her colleagues. If they want, they can hear her thoughts and see what she sees. She can turn it off when she wants to be alone, but since they're always kind of "on call" that's a real luxury. So since she's never alone with her thoughts, she's even worse off. At the end of the movie when she wants to talk to the Puppetmaster, she disconnects from Batou, who gets pissed. I think it's implied that Batou is in love with her but knows full well that isn't going to happen. They can't have real lives. The Puppetmaster itself claims to be alive, not AI since it wasn't designed. Supposedly just "woke up" after enough data had accrued around it. So something that began as a computer virus was swimming around the internet and came across enough things on wikipedia or whatever and started to connect the dots. That may be a germ for many good college-dorm bullshitting sessions, but it's also pertinent to current/future events. Just because it's gotten so mainstream that everybody with spare time is talking about it doesn't mean it's not worth discussing - maybe just keep your distance from the "whoa. mind. blown." college crowd? (On that note, it can be pretty exhausting when you're in a group of navel-gazers who don't really think about this stuff/read books. That's probably another reason why the live action movie probably won't contain much philosophy.) Whew. Maybe comparing it to a book seems off, but what movies can portray in microseconds takes paragraphs in a book. At any rate, I'm not saying movies are superior to books, if that's your objection.
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K. Waste posted:I actually said nothing about "nipponese spirit," racist crackpot - I was explicitly making a critique of capitalism. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the opinion-having internet at large icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 23, 2016 |
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Young Freud posted:The fact that they're getting Beat Takeshi and only have him speak in Japanese frustrates me for some reason. I can't really put my finger on why it upsets me so. I'm amazed they got him at all; after Brother he sounded like he didn't intend to work outside of Japan ever again.
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No one's talked about the leaked cast photos? Well, here they are. No one's sure where they came from but they've been circulating around Asia for about a week or so. The characters are Chinese, so, I'm assuming from some sort of Chinese licensing or distribution event. The two art works are anything thing that's been included in many of the articles, so I'm not sure if it's fan art or actual concept art from the film production.         I'm not that happy with how this is turning out. Word has that they're never referring to Kusanagi by her name, just by her rank, I'm guessing to avoid naming her due to the whitewashing allegations. I'm heavily disappointed that Batou doesn't have his eyes and I don't even think "adding them in post" is going to happen, considering that Borma and Saito have their eyes done. Speaking of which, Saito looks like he belongs in a Japanese '80s scifi movie like GunHED or Zeiram his makeup looks so bad. I can tolerate Ishikawa and Borma being played by African actors, but Togusa looks super old for the part. And I think people have too much respect for Beat Takeshi that his Aramaki to not tell him that he looks like he should be sequestered in a Romanian castle with his vampire brides, waiting for Keanu Reeves to show up.
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Young Freud posted:No one's talked about the leaked cast photos? Well, here they are. No one's sure where they came from but they've been circulating around Asia for about a week or so. The characters are Chinese, so, I'm assuming from some sort of Chinese licensing or distribution event. The two art works are anything thing that's been included in many of the articles, so I'm not sure if it's fan art or actual concept art from the film production. This is totally fake. Look at those eyes.
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Asian Robert de Niro has been great in everything I've seen him in. That picture will make me watch this movie.
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Man I hadn't read the premise of this film before. It's pretty funny when compared to season 1 of SAC.quote:Based on the internationally-acclaimed sci-fi property, “Ghost in the Shell” follows a female special ops cyborg who leads an elite task force called Section 9 for Hanka Robotics. Section 9 is devoted to stopping the most dangerous criminals and extremists, led by The Laughing Man whose singular goal is to wipe out Hanka’s advancements in cyber technology.
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Tenzarin posted:
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Man I hadn't read the premise of this film before. It's pretty funny when compared to season 1 of SAC. It's basically someone ripping off the plot to Deus Ex: Human Revolution and changing the names to GITS stuff.
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Is there some way to change the thread title to that picture of a black guy with googly eyes? Because holy poo poo.
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So googly eyes is this guy, right? Man, I sure hope his eyes looks better in motion/a decent quality photo.
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Mierenneuker posted:So googly eyes is this guy, right? Yep, although Batou has the same implants as well. I will admit, I've often wondered about the mechanics of how Batou/Boma/JGSDF Ranger eyes work, like are they covering the eye like Molly Millions from "Neuromancer" and would look indiscernible from sunglasses at a distance or a cursory glance, do they replace the entire eye and socket, or do they poke out of the existing eyelid like some sort of telescopic contact lens? Some of Shirow's work looks like the latter, where it looks like they're extruding from Batou's eyelids and other times they look like a cover. The stage play adaptation of GITS: ARISE makes them look like implanted swimmer goggles.   The stage play also conceived that Saito's "eagle eye" implant as a full socket covering/replacement with a flip-up eye patch. 
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Man I hadn't read the premise of this film before. It's pretty funny when compared to season 1 of SAC. 
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Tangentially related: For anyone interested in the Philly area, the original film is playing at the Phoenixville Colonial tonight at 10p. http://thecolonialtheatre.com/programs/ghost-in-the-shell/
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Knight posted:Togusa has not aged well Lol hes supposed to be the youngest member haha. He looks older than Amaraki and emo haircut.
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Togusa is the viewer surrogate. I identify with the actor; he looks how I feel.
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Tenzarin posted:Lol hes supposed to be the youngest member haha. He looks older than Amaraki and emo haircut.
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Ersatz posted:It's a strange casting decision considering that the point of the character is that being a young family man gives him a different mindset from the rest of the team. I have a major feeling that, in this film, most of Section 9 doesn't really matter, only the Major and maybe Batou, because you know they're going to work a love triangle angle between the two of them and Michael Pitt's Laughing Man. It's why most of the Section 9 cast is a bunch of no names. Or, like Aramaki, being isolated due to speaking only Japanese in this movie.
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if this was really Oshii's film then it might actually be good
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This movie's going to be poo poo either way but I don't know why the internet always gets in an uproar about a bunch of raw production test shots every time. Don't these photos literally only exist so someone can look at them for like one second before deciding on a different shade of gray for someone's suit or whatever? Zas posted:if this was really Oshii's film then it might actually be good I'm not as optimistic since Oshii hasn't made a good movie since Ghost in the Shell itself.
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Neo Rasa posted:This movie's going to be poo poo either way but I don't know why the internet always gets in an uproar about a bunch of raw production test shots every time. Don't these photos literally only exist so someone can look at them for like one second before deciding on a different shade of gray for someone's suit or whatever? True, but we've already seen what the Major and Batou look like from set photos, so it's not like it's going to be that much of a difference. Gatts posted:Kinda disappointing thus far but I'm guessing no clean up/post/proper effect production is done yet to make everything look good...I hope. That's what I'm hoping for myself, like they'll add Batou's eyes in post and the only reason Borma's googly eyes are practical is because Rupert Sanders doesn't care for any of the rest of the Section 9 characters. The problem with many leaked photos is that they seem to be leaked with permission. You're not seeing Paramount running around trying to shut these cast photos or the set photos down, which they would do if it hadn't been meant to leaked to gauge interest. It's like all those ridiculous stories about Jared Leto's antics on Suicide Squad, it's marketing to help drive up interest this early in the campaign, especially since they're trying to fight the whole "whitewashing" fiasco.
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Squallege posted:Where is Batou's Bassett Stuffed in his coat there, had to use something to make him look bigger/puffier.
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