|
Last Celebration posted:I'm at the last term (I think, where the term project is literally making canned food) of Altier EschaLogy and...wow. That first miniboss in the last dungeon sure is a kick in the teeth after like 85% of the game beforehand being "how fast can I kill these guys." Some of the jobs in the canned food term simply aren't supposed to be doable in that time. As long as you make enough food, in the post-term period you can finish up any jobs you haven't done yet. So make sure you get that done and you can handle the super-bosses afterwards in the year-long final section. But yeah, you need to start making stuff with a plan rather than just putting together whatever with whatever ingredients; finding relics can help a lot because they often have unique traits you can never get via gathering. It's possible to make items that will never run out, or weapons that do a ton of bonus damage whenever you attack; just experiment and remember to boost the amount you get whenever you forge or smelt new materials. If you can make a bunch of philosopher's stones with good traits on them you can pretty much make any weapon or armor out of that, given enough steps. Also, since you can use metal weapons as metal for other weapons, you can multiply the cool sword you're making for Logy and get those traits on a bunch of other peoples' weapons too. corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Jul 20, 2016 |
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 13:26
|
|
Hsving half HP isn't helping matters either.
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 07:53 |
|
|
Verranicus posted:On the subject of the Symmetra skin, people need to get over themselves and stop looking for things to be offended over. No, people have the right to be offended and voice their concern y'know freedom of speech and all that. a medical mystery posted:You can enjoy Planescape just fine without doing so but trying to work out the different layers of what it's trying to communicate like when rewatching something like Twin Peaks is a big part of what made it satisfying for me. I liked it a lot but it wasn't until my third playthrough running through different choices that I came to appreciate what it was trying (not always succeeding, mind) to do Planescape is neat in that all of those seemingly useless sidequests you're doing open up in the end to reveal that you did all this poo poo before. I felt lukewarm about Planescape at first, I didn't finish it until about 2009 or something, and it was okay at first. I don't hate the combat like most people, it's uninteresting but easy and inoffensive. And the fetch quests are dumb but the writing is good. Then the game pulls off my favorite plot trope where the "beginning is the end" and it's this huge revelatory moment where all these puzzle pieces scattered about suddenly come together and all those seemingly unimportant NPCs who ask to find a random item or tell a somber tale of how some stranger ruined their life years ago makes sense.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 15:25
|
|
|
why the hell is k cancel in i am setsuna. it can be one handed otherwise
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 15:31
|
|
|
Relin posted:why the hell is k cancel in i am setsuna. it can be one handed otherwise just remap the keys you dummy
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 15:35
|
|
|
Setsuna looks OK but it seems overpriced. I'm craving an rpg on PC but whenever I look it seems like I'd be better off emulating classics.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 15:36
|
|
|
al-azad posted:No, people have the right to be offended and voice their concern y'know freedom of speech and all that.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:02
|
|
|
It made me want to play FF4 DS version and maybe finally get past the first couple hours of Trails.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:02
|
|
|
and yeah just play trails of cold steel or something instead of setsuna
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:03
|
|
|
trails in the sky is probably the way better turn-based combat jrpg on pc hell, you could also even get grandia 2 instead, that's on steam
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:05
|
|
|
also megadimension neptunia vii
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:06
|
|
|
I'm liking I Am Setsuna a lot, but I'm really in it for the aesthetic and the overall tone of the experience. It's fun to play, too, but a lot of decent-to-good JRPGs can claim that. I think if I wanted a real meaty JRPG experience I'd look elsewhere, but I feel like I'm going to get my $40 worth out of this. It's one of those things where each individual element is nothing special but the overall package works pretty well. I have no doubt there are better JRPGs available on PC, and probably for cheaper, but I dunno, I'm liking this one at least. I think I'd categorize it as a really good "just chill out for a bit" game.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:16
|
|
|
20 sounds like a decent deal for it, 40 is absurd for how little the game has outside of the main story.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:18
|
|
|
Setsuna is a game I'll grab during the Christmas sales. It's neat, but I don't think it'd be worth what they're asking for right now.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:21
|
|
|
I Am Setsuna is a good game, better than any of the Compile Heart tripe despite what their fan club in this thread will tell you.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:22
|
|
|
Tae posted:20 sounds like a decent deal for it, 40 is absurd for how little the game has outside of the main story. I mean, I've paid $60 for shorter games so that doesn't really bug me. Unless I Am Setsuna is secretly like 6 hours long and I'm already halfway through I don't feel like I'm going to feel ripped off. I went back recently and looked at my last do-all-sidequests Chrono Trigger save file and it was like 27 hours so  . Granted that's not me getting every optional ending in NG+.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:23
|
|
|
How would you compare Setsuna to something like Radiant Historia which is also channeling Chrono Trigger but focusing more on the story aspect?
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:23
|
|
|
Endorph posted:and yeah just play trails of cold steel or something instead of setsuna Not on PC...yet? I dunno if there was any word if it was coming to PC The Colonel posted:trails in the sky is probably the way better turn-based combat jrpg on pc Undertale
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:24
|
|
|
al-azad posted:How would you compare Setsuna to something like Radiant Historia which is also channeling Chrono Trigger but focusing more on the story aspect? I played Radiant Historia a good while ago but I'll try to keep the comparison in mind the rest of the way through Setsuna. So far I feel like I'm probably going to prefer Setsuna's atmosphere/story (as predictable as I'm told it is) more than Radiant Historia's, but I adored Radiant Historia's combat and Setsuna's is really nothing new. Both of them have outright fantastic soundtracks, too.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:26
|
|
|
Verranicus posted:I Am Setsuna is a good game, better than any of the Compile Heart tripe despite what their fan club in this thread will tell you.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:28
|
|
|
Radiant HIstoria is a very lengthy game even without all the sidequests and stuff, but with it is a very meaty game. I think someone said RH was hard to find, but they regularly sell at 20-25 at gamestop or ebay official stores online.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:28
|
|
|
al-azad posted:How would you compare Setsuna to something like Radiant Historia which is also channeling Chrono Trigger but focusing more on the story aspect? Radiant Historia is better. Endorph posted:maybe sometimes people have different opinions and views No those games are just bad.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:30
|
|
|
Yeah, RH is really good and absolutely worth playing. I should probably play it again sometime, actually.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:31
|
|
|
I think Radiant Historia doesn't have the same feet at CT but unlike I Am Setsuna it has its own distinctive ideas and concepts that make it stand out. I Am Setsuna is like the flavorless yogurt of JRPGs. It's entirely competent at what it is supposed to do but not an iota more.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:32
|
|
|
id play megadimension neptunia vii before radiant historia honestly, rh has neat combat ideas but by the end of the game the balance is all over the place, and the plot also has some neat ideas that are let down by inconsistency in how time travel works and situations that are kind of forced and i am setsuna honestly feels like a really solid rpgmaker game with a slightly higher budget.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:33
|
|
|
Lol what kind of a world is this when people are saying Nepnep games filled with dank memes and ~moe~ are better than legit good RPGs like Radiant Historia and Setsuna. We don't deserve good JRPGs.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:34
|
|
|
I can't even really comment on Neptunia games because I'm really turned off by just about everything about their presentation and tone so I've never even played one.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:36
|
|
|
Endorph posted:the plot also has some neat ideas that are let down by inconsistency in how time travel works and situations that are kind of forced That is because Radiant Historia isn't about time travel in the traditional sense. It has a pretty specific idea about time-and-dimension travel and it actually sticks to it very closely. Verranicus posted:Lol what kind of a world is this when people are saying Nepnep games filled with dank memes and ~moe~ are better than legit good RPGs like Radiant Historia and Setsuna. We don't deserve good JRPGs. Setsuna genuinely isn't a good RPG.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:38
|
|
|
Harrow posted:I can't even really comment on Neptunia games because I'm really turned off by just about everything about their presentation and tone so I've never even played one. You have better taste than most of this thread.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:38
|
|
|
I liked RH, but you can really feel the project straining against its budget when you revisit that desert encampment for the fourth or fifth time. The combat wears pretty thin too, especially with all the lategame bosses that toss out placement manipulation by plopping down a 3x3 monster.
Motto fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jul 20, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:40
|
|
|
I liked Radiant Historia until I tried to 100% it In order to do most of the sidequests you have to warp to a part of the game that has like forced 20 minutes of talking and then a Bossfight and it's terrible did nobody realize I wouldn't want to do this 20 times in a row???
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:42
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:just remap the keys you dummy
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:42
|
|
|
the combat in rh got really boring and it was annoying how you kept ending up with really underleveled party members
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:42
|
|
|
Great as RH was the combat was easily the weakest part of it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:43
|
|
|
Harrow posted:I can't even really comment on Neptunia games because I'm really turned off by just about everything about their presentation and tone so I've never even played one. Megadimension Neptunia VII is the only one in the series I'd call a good game. Not great by any means, but the first game I'd comfortably say is good instead of mediocre or outright terrible. The rest are repetitive grindfests that you put up with because you like the characters and humor. If you're not a fan of anime style humor and video game references though, you'll despise the games like Verranicus does. It's a series that isn't for everyone.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:44
|
|
|
My real complaint about Setsuna is in its ability system. I feel like it steps right up to the line of doing something fun and cool and then backs away. You gather monster pieces and you can use them to make "spritnite," which are basically materia but with only one ability each. The problem is that, with the exception of support spritnite (which seem to fill the role you'd expect accessories to fill), each can only be used by one character. So I'm not really sure why I'm able to craft multiple copies of Cyclone or Cure when they can only ever be used by one character. Or why I'm crafting them at all instead of learning them some other way. I guess they want you to pick and choose which techs each character has available at any given time, but eh, it's sort of uninspiring. I wasn't necessarily expecting to make any character be able to be good at anything, I just thought there'd be some sort of ability to mix things up with spritnite that isn't there. I also think talismans, the game's equivalent of armor, are pretty boring, because the overwhelming majority of them don't give you any passive bonus at all, only differing in what random "flux" bonuses you can get when you use momentum in combat and what spritnite slots they have (though they don't differ much on that). I still like it more than most people in this thread seem to, though.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:44
|
|
|
voltcatfish posted:I liked Radiant Historia until I tried to 100% it I 100%'d Radiant Historia and I genuinely don't know which part you mean by this. Are you sure there wasn't another timeline node you could have jumped to?
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:45
|
|
|
Harrow posted:I still like it more than most people in this thread seem to, though. I like it but the constant pointless dialog choices are annoying me.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:47
|
|
|
no theres a fair amount of side quests that require a lot of skipping through dialogue and walking to reach like the 3 or so that have parts that take place while you infiltrate the city with the beastmen musical troupe and all of the ones at that little village that you get to after a city gets set on fire
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:48
|
|
|
id play a thousand nep games before i played another chrono trigger-inspired rpg heck id play a thousand nep games before i played chrono trigger again, chrono trigger was never all that great
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 07:53 |
|
|
The best RPG is Thousand Year Door, end of discussion close the thread.
|
|
#
?
Jul 20, 2016 16:50
|
|
