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Panic! at Nabisco posted:You don't get to be a cool goon unless you constantly reaffirm "actually (popular thing) is bad Indecisive posted:If you don't like chrono trigger I don't even know why you are in this thread because you obviously don't like rpgs Why do people do this crap? I just don't like a popular thing and like a thing not everybody likes, why are people trying to shout me down? I've never once gone 'heh chrono trigger is poo poo and you're poo poo for liking it' I've just said that it's average and the genre has kind of outgrown it.
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Harrow posted:Speaking of JRPGs I've never really played: am I missing out on anything by not having played any of the Atelier games? I'm considering grabbing the Vita version of Escha/Logy once I finish Setsuna. i've never played them but they have really beautiful and relaxing soundtracks so i'm gonna say, yes
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Wow Neptunia looks horrible. I'm not playing that. I tried playing Trails but the world really didn't grab me. My favourite JRPGs all tried something a bit different (Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, FF7, Persona 4) to the standard fantasy stuff.
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I thought it was neat that if you had Frog in your party for the rematch he fights him one-on-one.
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Harrow posted:Speaking of JRPGs I've never really played: am I missing out on anything by not having played any of the Atelier games? I'm considering grabbing the Vita version of Escha/Logy once I finish Setsuna. e: Be prepared, the Vita versions of Ayesha and Eschatology (and assumedly Shallie) run like slideshows at times, they are not fantastic ports. Panic! at Nabisco fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Harrow posted:Speaking of JRPGs I've never really played: am I missing out on anything by not having played any of the Atelier games? I'm considering grabbing the Vita version of Escha/Logy once I finish Setsuna. They are cute/girly/anime and involve a lot of crafting while the actual RPG aspects and combat are put in almost as an afterthought. My wife likes them a lot, I do not care for them. Still better than Compile Heart games.
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Harrow posted:Speaking of JRPGs I've never really played: am I missing out on anything by not having played any of the Atelier games? I'm considering grabbing the Vita version of Escha/Logy once I finish Setsuna. Escha and Logy is a good place to start since it has pretty good combat also, even if it's really easy to cheese.
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I'm on board with chill RPGs so that sounds pretty fun. I'll give Escha and Logy a shot, then.
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Verranicus posted:They are cute/girly/anime and involve a lot of crafting while the actual RPG aspects and combat are put in almost as an afterthought. My wife likes them a lot, I do not care for them. Still better than Compile Heart games. wow i'm surprised you have a wife with how whiny you are
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Atelier is a series I want PC ports of even though I know Koei-Tecmo will gently caress them up horribly and they'd be near unplayable on PC. They are some of the most chill JRPGs I've ever played though.
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Endorph posted:Why do people do this crap? I just don't like a popular thing and like a thing not everybody likes, why are people trying to shout me down? I've never once gone 'heh chrono trigger is poo poo and you're poo poo for liking it' I've just said that it's average and the genre has kind of outgrown it. It's hard for some people to just say they disagree completely. Like I'm doing now. Chrono Trigger is great.
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Phantasium posted:It's hard for some people to just say they disagree completely. Like I'm doing now. Chrono Trigger is great.
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voltcatfish posted:wow i'm surprised you have a wife with how whiny you are While she isn't as into RPGs as I am she also thinks the Neptunia games are terrible and we make fun of her brother who owns all of them pretty much whenever we get the chance.
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I like Chrono Trigger and Neptunia games Take that atheists
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Verranicus posted:While she isn't as into RPGs as I am she also thinks the Neptunia games are terrible and we make fun of her brother who owns all of them pretty much whenever we get the chance. Her brother sounds cooler than you guys
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Sakurazuka posted:Her brother sounds cooler than you guys
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i am sad most of the good jrpg devs are dead and the leavings have become the new standard of quality
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i wouldn't call trails in the sky standard fantasy stuff, it's more that more grounded kind of fantasy world entering into magi-science industrial revolution. it's less obvious at the start because you start out in a quiet old village that's pretty far off from all of it, but you definitely see more of it as you play through the game and i think that's kind of the point, since part of estelle's development as a character is seeing more of the world, so starting her out in an area where virtually none of what's currently happening in the world has any relevance sets that up the later trails games definitely show it off more right off the bat, what with the crossbell arc all being about being a cop in a pretty high-tech city, relative to the setting, and cold steel taking place in the empire, which is way a much more militaristic and technologically advanced country than liberl The Colonel fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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The Atelier series has the most latent potential for good combat mechanics of maybe any turn based JRPG series that has ever existed but keeps paring things back or shying away from what it could be. That's not even a criticism really given it makes sense for the games they're trying to make but it's still a little disappointing on some level.
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Relin posted:didnt see it on first pass because its not under settings because reasons. also pretty sure it doesnt tell you what key brings up the menu during the tutorial (j) there's an option to remap controls on the startup options screen too
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Relin posted:i am sad most of the good jrpg devs are dead and the leavings have become the new standard of quality It's kind of weird to be able to be picky about JRPGs again after so much time.
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I wanted to like Trails in the Sky but the pacing was so loving slow I couldn't take it. Also, the combat was bad.
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wateyad posted:The Atelier series has the most latent potential for good combat mechanics of maybe any turn based JRPG series that has ever existed but keeps paring things back or shying away from what it could be. That's not even a criticism really given it makes sense for the games they're trying to make but it's still a little disappointing on some level. E&L and Shallie both had pretty good combat mechanics, but Sophie was definitely a step back in a lot of ways
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Relin posted:i am sad most of the good jrpg devs are dead and the leavings have become the new standard of quality trails is great, modern tales has some speedbumps but is still generally solid, nep is constantly improving, and i wasn't big on p4 but i liked p3 and p5 looks great.
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not counting atelier because atelier has been around since like the ps1
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Harrow posted:Speaking of JRPGs I've never really played: am I missing out on anything by not having played any of the Atelier games? I'm considering grabbing the Vita version of Escha/Logy once I finish Setsuna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcc16o0SaY yeah you're missing out, theyre really good. e&l and ayesha are the best ones so you'd be picking a good starting point, too
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Davincie posted:i havent played chrono trigget Unacceptable
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The Colonel posted:i wouldn't call trails in the sky standard fantasy stuff, it's more that more grounded kind of fantasy world entering into magi-science industrial revolution. it's less obvious at the start because you start out in a quiet old village that's pretty far off from all of it, but you definitely see more of it as you play through the game and i think that's kind of the point, since part of estelle's development as a character is seeing more of the world, so starting her out in an area where virtually none of what's currently happening in the world has any relevance sets that up Yeah I never got past the first town and stopped playing after the first starter quest where you have to kill stuff in a sewer...I'll give it another shot because it does seem like a decent (and decently translated) game.
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Sakurazuka posted:E&L and Shallie both had pretty good combat mechanics, but Sophie was definitely a step back in a lot of ways Yeah, the Mana-Khemia / Atleier Shallie combat system is one of the best out there but there's a lot further that it could be taken.
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Harrow posted:Speaking of JRPGs I've never really played: am I missing out on anything by not having played any of the Atelier games? I'm considering grabbing the Vita version of Escha/Logy once I finish Setsuna. Honestly, the Dusk series (Atelier Ayesha, E/L and Shallie) are extremely solid. Shallie's the weakest of the lot but still not a bad game and probably has the most refined combat system of the three. Each one is different enough they're all worth playing though people have their favorites. E/L is usually held up as the most accessible of the lot but it isn't like they're bad.
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Davincie posted:i havent played chrono trigget More like Chrono Triggered amiright?
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yeah the start to trails in the sky is extremely slow, and the entire first game is mostly just bumming around, talking to people, and doing pretty normal hero stuff. There's a band of criminals you have to deal with and stuff but it's not exactly an epic world spanning adventure. It's not a very fast-paced game.
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I'm the weird outlier who likes Totori the most out of the PS3 games, though I'm not sure why.wateyad posted:Yeah, the Mana-Khemia / Atleier Shallie combat system is one of the best out there but there's a lot further that it could be taken. I'm also the weirdo who wants another Mana Khemia game 
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i think all the bumming around in trails fc is fun, because estelle is like the perfect character for keeping any kind of energy up during all of it i really like the contrast between trails fc and sc because fc fits estelle's super relaxed personality, and sc fits her growing up a bit and showing just how serious and awesome she can get after how she grew during the first game
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loving sega is basically a pc company and they still won't port resonance of fate to steam
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I'm the weird outlier who likes Totori the most out of the PS3 games, though I'm not sure why. Because Totori is the cutest protagonist?
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